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Dylan Ratigan (with an MSNBC show) is a Teabagger......
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 04:03 PM by FrenchieCat
he loves them.

He defends them,
and went to the convention.

I'm watching MSNBC now.

Far as I'm concerned,
I've just turned him off,
and won't be watching him anymore.
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   Agree ... he's always babbling some right wing talking point.  JoePhilly   Feb-04-10 04:04 PM   #1 
   And yet, there are many progressives who find him to be "credible".....  FrenchieCat   Feb-04-10 04:06 PM   #3 
      He just claimed that the Tea Party is not really Left or Right ... its just ...  JoePhilly   Feb-04-10 04:11 PM   #4 
         The CORPORATE teabaggers are all RW whack jobs...  annabanana   Feb-04-10 04:15 PM   #5 
         The fact that they are racists has escaped him......  FrenchieCat   Feb-04-10 04:16 PM   #6 
         It sounds like he doesn't have  Cha   Feb-04-10 04:22 PM   #12 
         Why would anyone try to justify  ProSense   Feb-04-10 04:33 PM   #21 
         Some more of the media talking points..  butterfly77   Feb-04-10 05:25 PM   #36 
   Ratigan explains economic issues very well. I watch him for that.  JDPriestly   Feb-04-10 04:05 PM   #2 
   Are economic issues are politically based.  FrenchieCat   Feb-04-10 04:18 PM   #7 
   I just like economic commentary. He used to be on CNBC I think.  JDPriestly   Feb-04-10 04:23 PM   #14 
      As long as Spitzer talks negative about the Obama admin, Ratigan  FrenchieCat   Feb-04-10 04:28 PM   #17 
      Busting Everyone's Bubble I Guess, But He Does Seem To Have A Knack  ChiciB1   Feb-04-10 04:56 PM   #27 
         Right now, after having like 4 Republicans in a row on without him correcting any of them.....  FrenchieCat   Feb-04-10 04:59 PM   #30 
            To Which I Agree... FOR TODAY... I've Been Watching Him Since He  ChiciB1   Feb-04-10 05:13 PM   #32 
               I believe you also supported John Edwards.  FrenchieCat   Feb-04-10 05:15 PM   #33 
                  I'm Happy For You... Really! As I Said... Time Will Tell & I Could Once  ChiciB1   Feb-04-10 05:28 PM   #37 
                     Ratigan isn't running for Office; Ratigan is a talking head......  FrenchieCat   Feb-04-10 05:40 PM   #43 
                        Economics is not your strong point. And obviously it is Ratigan's  saracat   Feb-06-10 06:01 PM   #144 
   I don't think he explains economics well at all  deaniac83   Feb-04-10 04:50 PM   #23 
   Thanks! I'll look at that link!  FrenchieCat   Feb-04-10 04:53 PM   #24 
   What TV commentator would you recommend as an expert on economics.  JDPriestly   Feb-05-10 02:47 PM   #49 
      Commentators are not economic experts.....  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 02:58 PM   #50 
      True, but they know more about business from the perspective  JDPriestly   Feb-05-10 08:38 PM   #99 
      I'd recommend an expert on economics  deaniac83   Feb-07-10 01:50 PM   #149 
   I was watching the finance shows today seeing what they would say  harun   Feb-04-10 05:33 PM   #40 
   Recommended.  NYC_SKPDU Moderator   Feb-04-10 04:18 PM   #8 
   I'm watching again....now he is panning the "job bill".....  FrenchieCat   Feb-04-10 04:19 PM   #9 
   Trying to out Loud Dobbs...  jefferson_dem   Feb-04-10 04:22 PM   #13 
      How can he reconcile being negative about the Job Bills,  FrenchieCat   Feb-04-10 04:25 PM   #15 
   Foolishness. He must be the only Teabagger calling for more regulation than  TheKentuckian   Feb-04-10 04:20 PM   #10 
   I'm far from foolish.  FrenchieCat   Feb-04-10 04:22 PM   #11 
   Reminds me of Lou Dobbs  ProSense   Feb-04-10 04:26 PM   #16 
      For a long ass time.  FrenchieCat   Feb-04-10 04:29 PM   #18 
   Yup. He has opened my eyes to a whole lot of corporate misbehavior.  dkf   Feb-06-10 10:56 PM   #146 
   Waaah! Ratigan doesn't worship at Obama's feet! So he's a teabagger!  brentspeak   Feb-04-10 04:29 PM   #19 
   Cut the bullshit. If he's cheering on teabaggers, his ass his suspect. n/t  ProSense   Feb-04-10 04:30 PM   #20 
   Who's not suspect? That's got to be the tinest list evah  TheKentuckian   Feb-04-10 04:58 PM   #29 
   Oh please, if you defend teabaggers you're condoning lunacy.  ProSense   Feb-04-10 05:23 PM   #35 
      I see certain parties defending corporatist all the time  TheKentuckian   Feb-04-10 05:31 PM   #38 
         What the hell does that have to do with teabaggers? n/t  ProSense   Feb-04-10 05:55 PM   #47 
   No, YOU "cut the bullshit". He's not "cheering on teabaggers", he's mocking them.  inna   Feb-06-10 03:20 PM   #143 
   The Corporate Media made the teabaggers.  harun   Feb-04-10 05:34 PM   #41 
   He's had nothing but Republicans on his show thus far on today's show.....  FrenchieCat   Feb-04-10 04:42 PM   #22 
   Can you please provide specifics?  ohiodemocratic   Feb-04-10 04:54 PM   #25 
   How about just watching his show. But anybody attending  Fire1   Feb-04-10 05:33 PM   #39 
   Yeah, that'd be nice.  spoony   Feb-05-10 03:36 AM   #48 
   He does seem preoccupied with the teabaggers.  Lord Helmet   Feb-04-10 04:55 PM   #26 
   He went to their convention!?! WTF..fascinated is he?  Cha   Feb-04-10 04:58 PM   #28 
   His ratings suck.  JamesA1102   Feb-04-10 05:10 PM   #31 
   Good. I hope it doesn't take us as long as it did to figure out  FrenchieCat   Feb-04-10 05:19 PM   #34 
   There are bad people with great ratings and good people with low ratings  ohiodemocratic   Feb-05-10 04:28 PM   #62 
      and there are bad people with bad ratings that seemingly can fool enough  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 05:08 PM   #72 
   He is a leftist anti-establishment type.  Jennicut   Feb-04-10 05:34 PM   #42 
   Working for CNBC for all of those years makes him as much of a  FrenchieCat   Feb-04-10 05:42 PM   #44 
      Ha! But his views on health care and the regulation of big banks shows he  Jennicut   Feb-04-10 05:45 PM   #45 
         They are nuts  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 07:18 PM   #91 
   I stopped watching him when he was on at 9am ET. He is SO obnoxious...  jenmito   Feb-04-10 05:52 PM   #46 
   Dylan who?  grantcart   Feb-05-10 03:02 PM   #51 
   Ratigan was always more of a populist than a liberal Democrat  Bullet1987   Feb-05-10 03:05 PM   #52 
   Populist my ass!  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 03:06 PM   #53 
      I just know he's attacked Banks and Wall Street harder than  Bullet1987   Feb-05-10 03:10 PM   #54 
         Well the Teabaggers attacked banks and wall street too, and.....?  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 03:31 PM   #55 
            As a rule, only for taking TARP money.  burning rain   Feb-05-10 03:48 PM   #56 
               19 minutes into the program......  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 04:22 PM   #61 
                  You know I love you, FrenchieCat, but you're changing the subject....  burning rain   Feb-05-10 07:02 PM   #89 
   Let's see if Dylan Ratigan brings up Sen. Shelby and his earmark holds today.....  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 04:07 PM   #57 
   Shelby only brought up in the context of him and Dodd coming to an impasse.  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 04:11 PM   #58 
   Let's see when he covers the "teabaggers" convention, which of course he will,  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 04:17 PM   #59 
   LOL, what total bullshit. Dylan Ratigan "a teabagger"!!  inna   Feb-05-10 04:21 PM   #60 
   You can do them ROFL smilies all you want,  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 04:44 PM   #63 
      His hard-hitting interview with the teabagger in costume...  jenmito   Feb-05-10 04:48 PM   #64 
      Of course...that's what one teabagger would say to another.....  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 04:52 PM   #66 
         Exactly...  jenmito   Feb-05-10 04:54 PM   #67 
      More BS from you.  inna   Feb-05-10 04:51 PM   #65 
      You're right on the money, Frenchie. They love being fed corporate media bullshit  DevonRex   Feb-05-10 05:02 PM   #69 
         Yep. That's the taste test.  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 05:07 PM   #71 
         do you have ANYTHING but personal attacks and pathetic attempts at defamation?  inna   Feb-05-10 10:57 PM   #138 
            Ha! She's speaking facts and you call it "defamation".  Cha   Feb-07-10 04:03 PM   #151 
   Big push by the more conservative posters on this board to characterize anyone to their LEFT  Romulox   Feb-05-10 05:01 PM   #68 
   I wasn't conservative when I joined in 2003, and I ain't conservative now.....  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 05:06 PM   #70 
   Honestly, Frenchie, I think you are ultimately a-political.  Romulox   Feb-05-10 05:14 PM   #73 
   Yeah, I know....you are way better than me.......  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 05:21 PM   #76 
      I just can't see you criticizing this President no matter what promise he breaks.  Romulox   Feb-05-10 05:23 PM   #79 
         I don't need to.....there are more than enough of youse on this forum for that!  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 05:35 PM   #84 
            Um, QED mean anything to you? Unswerving loyalty = / = patriotism or civic engagement  Romulox   Feb-05-10 05:41 PM   #86 
   Anybody who thinks a CNBC money guy is a leftist needs to  DevonRex   Feb-05-10 05:18 PM   #75 
      Right. But all the ex-Goldman execs, investment bankers, and Clinton-era retreads surrounding Obama  Romulox   Feb-05-10 05:21 PM   #77 
         But no one said they were way "Left".........  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 05:23 PM   #80 
            Which brings us back to anybody to your Left is the enemy for noticing those investment bankers  Romulox   Feb-05-10 05:24 PM   #81 
               Sorry, but Kucinich didn't win the election.  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 05:28 PM   #82 
                  I know, that means Kucinich is the enemy (to your Left). And *I* am your enemy (to your Left)  Romulox   Feb-05-10 05:30 PM   #83 
                  It's as if they think Obama had promised to outlaw capitalism  DevonRex   Feb-05-10 05:38 PM   #85 
                     What is going on isn't captialism  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 07:31 PM   #95 
   You have NO right to categorize ANYBODY on this board other than YOURSELF.  DevonRex   Feb-05-10 05:15 PM   #74 
      Of course I do. You can alert, else cram it with walnuts.  Romulox   Feb-05-10 05:22 PM   #78 
   I have been asking for weeks what side of the bread does this guy butter?  Peacetrain   Feb-05-10 05:43 PM   #87 
   Not many libertarians or Tea Baggers I know are calling for restoration of Glass Steagal  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 08:48 PM   #100 
      I didn't hear him calling out Republicans for standing in the way of  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 09:05 PM   #103 
         What financial reform?  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 09:12 PM   #106 
   Ratigan was nothing today  seattle_blue   Feb-05-10 06:08 PM   #88 
   Oh for christ sake  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 07:07 PM   #90 
   I thought you were gone?  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 07:24 PM   #92 
      Miss me?  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 07:29 PM   #94 
         Yeah...I watched him too, hence this thread.  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 08:27 PM   #96 
            Frenchie  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 08:36 PM   #98 
               Mocking an outfit is not the same as calling them out for what they are.....  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 09:02 PM   #101 
                  Whether you like them or not  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 09:11 PM   #105 
                     "They are just folks"????  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 09:26 PM   #113 
                        Whether you like them or not  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 09:29 PM   #116 
   Ratigan = Wall Street right wing shill - EOM.  BlueIdaho   Feb-05-10 07:26 PM   #93 
   What total nonsense. Ratigan is THE biggest critic of Wall Street in the MSM.  inna   Feb-06-10 02:27 PM   #142 
      My apologies  BlueIdaho   Feb-07-10 03:53 PM   #150 
   I just rewatched the segment  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 08:34 PM   #97 
   You might want to watch it again......  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 09:04 PM   #102 
   I think you are starting to lose it  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 09:15 PM   #108 
   He was joking playfully about the teabagger's costume. He didn't mock anything the guy SAID.  jenmito   Feb-05-10 09:08 PM   #104 
      Probably because the guy is a fool  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 09:14 PM   #107 
         He made some serious accusations regardless of his stupid costume. Dylan let him get away with it,  jenmito   Feb-05-10 09:19 PM   #109 
            The guy was stammering on incoherently for 3 minutes  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 09:23 PM   #110 
            He was a dangerous teabagger in a stupid costume. Lots of people take the people in those  jenmito   Feb-05-10 09:27 PM   #114 
               Let me explain to you very rationally the last 3 big democratic losses  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 09:35 PM   #121 
                  You're crazier than the guy in the costume if you don't think he's a real danger to  jenmito   Feb-05-10 09:42 PM   #123 
                     I have every confidence in the world in the Secret Service  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 09:44 PM   #124 
            That is correct. It ain't what he looked like, it's what he said  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 09:24 PM   #111 
               You are really slipping  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 09:26 PM   #112 
                  You wish!  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 09:28 PM   #115 
                  Frenchie  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 09:31 PM   #118 
                  Keep laughing...  jenmito   Feb-05-10 09:31 PM   #117 
                     I guess we should start water boarding and tapping their phones than right?  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 09:32 PM   #119 
                        I'm sure the FBI has people in there keeping an eye/ear on them. You're foolish if you  jenmito   Feb-05-10 09:34 PM   #120 
                           I'm sure they are watching all of us  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 09:38 PM   #122 
                              Nice try at changing the subject. This is about a dangerous person in a dangerous "party," and  jenmito   Feb-05-10 09:45 PM   #125 
                                 His producers found the silliest person at the convention  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 09:48 PM   #126 
                                    Keep telling yourself that. There were quite a few people dressed like him-thanks to  jenmito   Feb-05-10 09:53 PM   #127 
                                       The GOP runs from Glenn Beck in swing districts as well  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 09:58 PM   #128 
                                          I'm talking about these people causing PHYSICAL harm to Obama! What don't you understand about  jenmito   Feb-05-10 10:02 PM   #129 
                                             Having worked an event for the democratic candidate for President  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 10:08 PM   #130 
                                                I don't care what you believe you explained to me. These people incite violence. They are no joke.  jenmito   Feb-05-10 10:10 PM   #131 
                                                   The language being used is no worse than you will hear in a Rage Against the Machine Album  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 10:13 PM   #132 
                                                      Yeah right! Like Ratigan only interviewed one Tea Bag racist asshole  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 10:24 PM   #133 
                                                      I like Dylan Ratigan  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 10:34 PM   #134 
                                                      Well, you would be wrong.  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 10:42 PM   #135 
                                                      My worst nightmare at a demonstration  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 10:45 PM   #137 
                                                      I'll add as an organizer  AllentownJake   Feb-05-10 10:43 PM   #136 
                                                      I think you have defended him enough......  FrenchieCat   Feb-05-10 11:55 PM   #139 
                                                      It's kind of funny  AllentownJake   Feb-06-10 12:08 AM   #140 
   He is different than them.  mmonk   Feb-06-10 07:49 AM   #141 
   he is pro union  Usrename   Feb-06-10 09:56 PM   #145 
   I agree with Dylan  LatteLibertine   Feb-07-10 01:27 PM   #147 
   D.R. is not a tea-bagger...  centristgrandpa   Feb-07-10 01:42 PM   #148 
   This is why I have stopped watching all of them. n/t  firedupdem   Feb-07-10 04:11 PM   #152 
   Seemed like a wannabe Rick Santelli style faux populist from the couple of times I saw him.eom  Reterr   Feb-07-10 04:16 PM   #153 
   He's having a Pow-Wow today, to see how Liberals can join The Teabagger movement....  FrenchieCat   Feb-08-10 04:38 PM   #154 
   What did he say exactly?  ohiodemocratic   Feb-08-10 04:48 PM   #155 
   You missed the show......  FrenchieCat   Feb-08-10 04:53 PM   #156 
   I'm a Democrat  LatteLibertine   Feb-08-10 05:06 PM   #157 
   Lou Dobbs supports all of those things too.  FrenchieCat   Feb-08-10 05:13 PM   #158 
      I don't consider  LatteLibertine   Feb-08-10 05:51 PM   #159 
   Ratigan is hard to figure out  jeanpalmer   Feb-09-10 02:01 AM   #160 
 
JoePhilly (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:04 PM
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1. Agree ... he's always babbling some right wing talking point.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:06 PM
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3. And yet, there are many progressives who find him to be "credible".....
although we all know he came from CNBC, the biggest wall street whores on this planet.

In fact, the Tea party movement was started on CNBC.

It's Orwellian.
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:11 PM
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4. He just claimed that the Tea Party is not really Left or Right ... its just ...
Anti-establishment. That's what he said.

What a %#$%#%ing crock that is.

Everyone in the Tea Party is a far right wing WHACK JOB and a current or former REPUBLICAN.

What a dick ... suggesting that some from the LEFT would be part of such idiocy.



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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:15 PM
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5. The CORPORATE teabaggers are all RW whack jobs...
Many of the rest are just confused people who don't know yet that they're on our side.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:16 PM
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6. The fact that they are racists has escaped him......
that they were fucking quiet until the inauguration of Barack Obama
should be a great big ass flashing red light to him....
IF HE WAS TRUTHFUL ABOUT THE MATTER...
which of course, he isn't.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:22 PM
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12. It sounds like he doesn't have
much common sense. That's all this country needs is to have some pundit up there on corporatemedia giving cover to the ignorant racist teabags.

"Anti-establishment" my :kick:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:33 PM
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21. Why would anyone try to justify
or give credibility to these lunatics?



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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 05:25 PM
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36. Some more of the media talking points..
that get thrown around all over the air and they think the people can't think or see what is going on for themselves. They also try to portray the left as either all one way in their thinking or the other. I and others on DU don't agree on all issues..
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:05 PM
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2. Ratigan explains economic issues very well. I watch him for that.
But you are right, he is a jerk when it comes to his political views -- at least as far as I can tell.

But then, I don't watch TV. I just pick up short clips on the internet, so I probably just watch the best of Ratigan and miss the rest.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:18 PM
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7. Are economic issues are politically based.
To separate them doesn't do anyone a favor
except Republicans.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:23 PM
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14. I just like economic commentary. He used to be on CNBC I think.
Of course, in my view, CNBC just tries to sell stocks and does not provide serious coverage on the economy. Ratigan is basically a stock salesman. He has moved away slightly from his CNBC job. I'm wondering where he will end up. He seems to like Elliot Spitzer a lot. I think he might be a person in transition politically. We shall see. Probably a libertarian. That's my guess.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:28 PM
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17. As long as Spitzer talks negative about the Obama admin, Ratigan
will continue to love Elliot Spitzer.

As soon as Elliot Spitzer starts liking what the Obama Admin is doing,
Ratigan won't like him as much.

I think Ratigan is a whore, first for CNBC as a Stock salesman,
and when that became passe, he became a "Populist".

He's been talking down the economy only since Obama swore on Lincoln's bible.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:56 PM
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27. Busting Everyone's Bubble I Guess, But He Does Seem To Have A Knack
for "explaining" a certain reality about Corporate Communists! He's a very savvy guy, don't know his politics, but anyone who doesn't at least listen might just be in for a bigger surprise than they thought!

He seems to be trying VERY hard to let the PUBLIC know about what is going on behind the scenes, or at the very least drawing a road map about how THIS economy is screwing us!

And one more thing... I believe that the "movement" we keep making fun of, The Tea Party is something we should start paying attention to! Time for US to get a movement going to counter-act because they are getting ALL THE ATTENTION!! And we sit here and call names and laugh.

Go ahead, call me crazy... I'm preparing for the worst because I think things WILL get worse, and even if I'm wrong, then I'm ahead of the game!

I feel Ratigan is trying to get out a message TO THE PEOPLE, to DO SOMETHING! I think many here are simply wrong about him!

Time will tell!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:59 PM
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30. Right now, after having like 4 Republicans in a row on without him correcting any of them.....
he's got T. Boone Pickens doing an infomercial.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 05:13 PM
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32. To Which I Agree... FOR TODAY... I've Been Watching Him Since He
was doing his morning show and one person who is FREQUENTLY on his show is Eliot Spitzer AND also Ed Schultz!

As I said, I don't know what he calls himself, probably Indy or Libertarian, but there have been many times he's had Democrats on too! Many times! I like the fact that he lays it on the table about Corporations, and HE'S THE ONE who first called them Corporate Communists!

We can disagree, but what he's been saying for quite some time, AND he does come from CNBC and knows the market, I prefer his in your face truth as opposed to many who dance around every single issue!

I like him, I think he's trying very hard to be a thorn in the side of D.C., but that's just my perception! What he's been saying for some time, IS actually TRUE!

We here, need to get something going to COUNTER the T-B's!! I don't like having to feel this way, but we ARE being played by too many people with too much money! Time to fight like THEY ARE!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 05:15 PM
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33. I believe you also supported John Edwards.
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 05:17 PM by FrenchieCat
and I know you listened to him for a real long time too.

I disliked both fellows, one which I detailed over and over again
during the primaries my reasons why,
and now this one, whom I dislike for the obvious reasons that I am currently stating.

We will see who's right in the end.

But thus far, your record isn't very strong, :(
while mine is impeccable. :)
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 05:28 PM
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37. I'm Happy For You... Really! As I Said... Time Will Tell & I Could Once
again be in for a let down. HOWEVER, Ratigan isn't saying we should join up with the T.B's, or at least if he did, I missed it.

I'm just very worried about what is going on economically and he does seem to have some very strong arguments. AND, he isn't running for office either. I've seen his other shows and I can't say he's right or left. Just need the info because it pertains to my future.

One more thing, IF you know much about me by my posts, I state my opinion but I'm not one to get into a pissing contest with anyone. You have every right to feel as you do, and you've been here a very long time. We can agree to disagree.

So just because I supported Edwards doesn't make me a freak, many here did and did so fervently! In the end I worked my butt off for Obama down here in the HOT Florida sun! Many days, almost all weekends too! I'm no turn coat.

JMHO!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 05:40 PM
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43. Ratigan isn't running for Office; Ratigan is a talking head......
and when tax cuts expire, and when Wall Street is better regulated,
it doesn't help someone like him. So he has his motives....
which is why he is so much more "disgusted" now,
then at anytime while Bush was in office. Now, why is that?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Feb-06-10 06:01 PM
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144. Economics is not your strong point. And obviously it is Ratigan's
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 06:05 PM by saracat
So as to whom one should believe? His credentials a better.I doubt candidate loalty equates to his finacial and journalistic background!

Ratigan won the Gerald Loeb Award for 2004 coverage of the Enron scandal.<3>

In Ratigan's final CNBC broadcast from the floor of the NYSE he reported on what he called "an important story developing" that Goldman Sachs and "a variety of European banks", in his assessment and that of his guests, essentially "perpetrated securities fraud" and an "insurance fraud scam" against AIG—and, by extension, the government and taxpayers funding that insurance company's "bailout"—by insuring their questionable investment vehicles and, upon their devaluation, making claims on them to be paid by AIG "at 100 cents on the dollar" despite all of the markdowns "being forced upon every other" entity including the government, banks, shareholders, bond holders, taxpayers and homeowners.<7>

"I think that it should be a bigger political issue than whether somebody bought an airplane... Forget the private jets, forget who got a million dollar bonus. Fifty billion dollars", he emphasized, minimizing what he saw as populist side issues to "the real question" of how "government policy makers" are to deal with the "problems of contract law" inherent in the agreements of businesses receiving government assistance during the financial crisis.<7>

"The banks are being asked to take 'haircuts' on their toxic assets, why are the Goldmans and the Deutsche Banks of the world not being asked to take haircuts on their toxic credit default swaps? It's a real question. I will continue to pursue it for sure, I hope others will as well." Ratigan praised New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo's subpoena of AIG to determine the bank payouts as "legitimate inquiry" and looked forward to "a body of lawmakers in Washington D.C. who are going to ask, it appears, some of the same questions that I'm asking." <7>

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deaniac83 (155 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:50 PM
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23. I don't think he explains economics well at all
I have been toiling in economics for a while. He does a good job screaming out whatever he thinks is the economic populist rant of the day, but he never does a thorough analytical job of actually looking into issues. And he attacks a lot of the wrong people.

I did a blog post on him once. A play on his segment, Busted.

Dylan Ratigan, Busted
http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2010/01/dylan-ratigan-bus...
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:53 PM
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24. Thanks! I'll look at that link!
But yes, I can smell bullshit from miles away
(just like I smelled John Edwards bullshit on Day two),
and Ratigan's stink is strong thus far.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 02:47 PM
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49. What TV commentator would you recommend as an expert on economics.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 02:58 PM
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50. Commentators are not economic experts.....
and working at CNBC doesn't make one an economic anything....
as economics and the stock market aren't the same thing.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 08:38 PM
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99. True, but they know more about business from the perspective
of the companies than a lot of other newscasters and journalists.

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deaniac83 (155 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Feb-07-10 01:50 PM
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149. I'd recommend an expert on economics
as an expert of economist. They are not usually TV commentators, but here are some that appear on TV that have some creds (although I don't always agree with them) :

- Elizabeth Warren, the Chair of the Congressional Oversight Panel for TARP (although she is a law professor, she has a good grip on this thing)
- Robert Reich
- Paul Krugman

There are others, but look for their economist credentials, not their TV pundit credentials, please.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 05:33 PM
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40. I was watching the finance shows today seeing what they would say
about the market. These shows talk about politics, not finance. The 4 commentators were all arguing over tax cuts and how they create jobs. That is a political discussion not a financial one.

All pure BS.
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NYC_SKP DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:18 PM
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8. Recommended.
He's a tool, and a loud tool.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:19 PM
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9. I'm watching again....now he is panning the "job bill".....
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 04:21 PM by FrenchieCat
because his only point is making sure that the Obama admin
doesn't experience any success at helping those who need help.

He is a faux populist and has always been.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:22 PM
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13. Trying to out Loud Dobbs...
"nuff of these faux populist blowhards already.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:25 PM
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15. How can he reconcile being negative about the Job Bills,
standing with the Teabaggers,

and yet panning the economic system, that gained him
both his fame and notierity on CNBC that earned him
an MSNBC show?

Easy. He's a fake.

He's a Republican hard Free Market guy
who's playing a role due to how Wall Street fucked up.
Nothing less, nothing more.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:20 PM
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10. Foolishness. He must be the only Teabagger calling for more regulation thanUpdated at 11:04 PM
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 05:09 PM by TheKentuckian
Volcker, more reform for health care than either the House or Senate could muster, wants money out of politics, wants out of both bogus wars, and thinks Elizabeth Warren is the best thing since sliced bread.

What he is attracted to is any signal that people are dissatisfied with the current failed policies and structures we are saddled with.

Is he a liberal? Not in my opinion but he's nothing close to a teabagger in policy direction and I suspect you're just bent because he calls Obama, Summers, Timmah, and Rahm to account for failed economic policy, knuckling under to corporate influence, and half-stepping on their good days.

He's the only person in the mass media actually hammering away at our broken economic and political systems and he gets called a teabagger. I bet you can't find enough teabaggers to fill a clown car that are calling for things like clawbacks or health care reform well beyond what Democrats could muster.


***edited to advise of unrec as that is my standing policy. I think a faux case is being rigged to silence a truth teller, the poster is fixated on a particular day because the pundit does not shil for the status quo caucus and when the broad content of the program is pro-regulation and anti-corporate influence.***
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:22 PM
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11. I'm far from foolish.
Just because he had you fooled; that's not my problem.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:26 PM
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16. Reminds me of Lou Dobbs
He fooled a lot of people once too.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:29 PM
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18. For a long ass time.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Feb-06-10 10:56 PM
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146. Yup. He has opened my eyes to a whole lot of corporate misbehavior.
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 10:57 PM by dkf
But of course the op doesn't like him cuz he isn't an Obama acolyte. As far as I'm concerned he is a great critic of all bad behavior including the dems. Our guys are part of the problem too.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:29 PM
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19. Waaah! Ratigan doesn't worship at Obama's feet! So he's a teabagger!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:30 PM
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20. Cut the bullshit. If he's cheering on teabaggers, his ass his suspect. n/t
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 04:30 PM by ProSense
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:58 PM
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29. Who's not suspect? That's got to be the tinest list evahUpdated at 11:04 PM
Ratigan is of course "suspect" but as far as corporate media goes he's far less suspect than most you'll find. Of course some here think people like Hillary, Obama, and Rahm aren't suspect.

Hell, I only trust Bernie to a point. Any of these public figures had best be on any wise person's suspect list but a person who is honest enough to even MENTION the shambles that most of our systems are in on a fundemental level has to be given the benefit of the doubt.

Even folks I agree with more fully like Maddow seem to be happy to pretend that we just need a few adjustments and all will be well.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 05:23 PM
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35. Oh please, if you defend teabaggers you're condoning lunacy.
Period.

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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 05:31 PM
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38. I see certain parties defending corporatist all the timeUpdated at 11:04 PM
and that is about a million times more crazy then the unimportant nutbaggers who are literally nothing but a corporate front taking advantage of the stupid.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 05:55 PM
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47. What the hell does that have to do with teabaggers? n/t
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Feb-06-10 03:20 PM
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143. No, YOU "cut the bullshit". He's not "cheering on teabaggers", he's mocking them.

This thread is fucking insane.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 05:34 PM
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41. The Corporate Media made the teabaggers.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:42 PM
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22. He's had nothing but Republicans on his show thus far on today's show.....
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 04:45 PM by FrenchieCat
and he's been on 42 minutes now.

They all have been spewing pure bullshit,
and he has yet to call them out on it....
which backs up exactly what I say; he's a teabagger
who supports Republicans, and enjoys demonizing this Administration....

he's full of shit, and anyone believing otherwise is full of it too.
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ohiodemocratic (188 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:54 PM
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25. Can you please provide specifics?
I think the tea-baggers are clowns. But it would be nice if we were given quotes of what Ratigan has said, so we can make up our own minds as to whether Ratigan defends their views, or whether he defends only some of their views and not all, etc.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 05:33 PM
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39. How about just watching his show. But anybody attending
a teabagger rally is enough evidence for me. He never held my interest. I'll stick with KO and well, there WAS tweety, but ........
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spoony (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 03:36 AM
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48. Yeah, that'd be nice.
I don't watch cable news so I've only recently heard of this guy.
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:55 PM
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26. He does seem preoccupied with the teabaggers.
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 05:15 PM by Lord Helmet
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 04:58 PM
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28. He went to their convention!?! WTF..fascinated is he?
Defend a teabagger at your own peril, stupid.
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 05:10 PM
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31. His ratings suck.
So did the ratings of his morning show. His contract at MSNBC most likely won't be renewed. He is probably using his show now to audition for FOX.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 05:19 PM
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34. Good. I hope it doesn't take us as long as it did to figure out
that Lou Dobbs wasn't really an Independent,
and that John Edwards really lived only in his America.

Ratigan is a fake, and the faster we understand this,
the better off we will be.
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ohiodemocratic (188 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 04:28 PM
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62. There are bad people with great ratings and good people with low ratings
Edited on Fri Feb-05-10 04:30 PM by ohiodemocratic
I don't know how ratings have to do with merit.

I used to think, and still think, that Air America was much better than Rush Limbaugh.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 05:08 PM
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72. and there are bad people with bad ratings that seemingly can fool enough
some of the time.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 05:34 PM
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42. He is a leftist anti-establishment type.
I don't think he is a true teabagger because they are far to the right on what he actually believes. However, he is not my cup of tea. Far too many Rethugs on his show. He reminds me of Jack Cafferty...hating everyone in politics at their own peril. "The left and right are both bad", except the right is way, way worse.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 05:42 PM
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44. Working for CNBC for all of those years makes him as much of a
"Leftist anti-establishment" type as Lou Dobbs was for the working class.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 05:45 PM
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45. Ha! But his views on health care and the regulation of big banks shows he
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 05:47 PM by Jennicut
is not a teabagger, just an asshole. At least in my opinion. But he naively believes teabaggers are not left or right which is completely false. They started with Ron Paul and are more conservative libertarians. I think he sucks at politics just like Krugman can at times.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 07:18 PM
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91. They are nuts
Teabaggers don't have a right wing or left wing ideology, they are crazy people.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Feb-04-10 05:52 PM
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46. I stopped watching him when he was on at 9am ET. He is SO obnoxious...
and ignorant. He DOES have RWers on and he buys whatever they sell him. He yells constantly, interrupts everyone, and believes all the RWers on his show.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 03:02 PM
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51. Dylan who?
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 03:05 PM
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52. Ratigan was always more of a populist than a liberal Democrat
Don't confuse him with Big Ed, Olbermann, or Maddow.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 03:06 PM
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53. Populist my ass!
More like propagandist.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 03:10 PM
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54. I just know he's attacked Banks and Wall Street harder than
other rank and file MSNBC talking heads. I'm not saying I follow his every word. I think buying into MSM talking heads to hard is a mistake because at the end of the day they're getting paid by corporations.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 03:31 PM
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55. Well the Teabaggers attacked banks and wall street too, and.....?
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 03:48 PM
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56. As a rule, only for taking TARP money.
Not for fleecing Americans as a matter of course, which is Ratigan's line of attack.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 04:22 PM
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61. 19 minutes into the program......
and thus far today, he's had on his show; 1 Republican congress person on, Chuck Todd, a Politico Reporter, and a NCNBC former colleague.

and thus far, only a passing mention about Sen. Shelby by Woodchuck, only to say that he and Sen. Dodd had reached an "impasse" on financial regulations.



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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 07:02 PM
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89. You know I love you, FrenchieCat, but you're changing the subject....
Edited on Fri Feb-05-10 07:19 PM by burning rain
and for that I will pull your tail! :pals:

By the way, I like "Woodchuck" as a nickname for Chuck Todd--he has a foolish leer, kind of like a woodchuck. I usually call him "Chuck Toad," though.

There are some serious points of distinction between Ratigan and right-wing teabaggers (leaving aside the mere fashion-followers, angry people who've mindlessly bought a line, etc.). Right-wing teabaggers want uncompromising laissez-faire; cut all taxes to the bone, gut government, including regulation, and let business do what it damn well pleases--just don't give it taxpayer money. Ratigan advocates expanded and tougher regulation of business, and although he lapses into they're all bums cynicism too much for my taste (cynicism almost always redounds to the benefit of conservatives by reinforcing their line that government can't do anything good), he certainly does not peddle a economic libertarian line. Also, unlike right-wing teabaggers, Ratigan advocates public programs for the public good, such as single-payer health care, and has touted public option as a compromise (whereas a conservative agent provocateur would predictably demand single-payer or nothing). Now, I don't know whether he's a dedicated liberal or lefty, or just going along to get along at MSNBC (as even Tweety has been libbing it up since Olbermann came to rule the MSNBC roost). But I don't think it's fair to say he's acting as a cryptobagger.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 04:07 PM
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57. Let's see if Dylan Ratigan brings up Sen. Shelby and his earmark holds today.....
Edited on Fri Feb-05-10 04:08 PM by FrenchieCat
Cause thus far, he has only ragged on the government, but really Democrats.

Thus far, Woodchuck, WH political reporter hasn't raised the issue,
or called Sen. Shelby out by name.

Let's see if Dylan brings this up at all.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 04:11 PM
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58. Shelby only brought up in the context of him and Dodd coming to an impasse.
Now he has a Republican congressperson on.

Let's see if he'll have a Democrat that is an elected official on as well....
one who is on the side of this administration.

Cause that's how one can tell who this guy is really shilling for....
and I say he's a GOP/Teabagger guy all of the way...not a populist, not a libertarian,
no, none of those things.

He knows how to throw out red meat buzz words, but he's actually full of shit.

Anyone fooled by this guy is clueless.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 04:17 PM
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59. Let's see when he covers the "teabaggers" convention, which of course he will,
whether he'll talk about the fact that there aren't even 600 of them. Whether he'll mention that of that "Nearly 600" of them, almost half are Media folks.

If he doesn't, then he is a teabagger, no matter how much he denounces them......as long as he discuss them as being viable and honorable, then he's full of shit, and he's on of them...which is what I truly believe.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 04:21 PM
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60. LOL, what total bullshit. Dylan Ratigan "a teabagger"!!
:rofl: :rofl:

Too late to unrec, unfortunately.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 04:44 PM
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63. You can do them ROFL smilies all you want,
but thus far on his show he's interviewed anyone but a Democrat....and is covering the Teabagger's convention amply (thus far for the last 10 minutes), and interviewed two of them, and didn't ask them any questions that would give me the idea that he wasn't a teabagger.

But keep laughing...since you are one of the ones most likely in line lapping up AP's bullshit
as well like Corporate media gives a shit about you.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 04:48 PM
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64. His hard-hitting interview with the teabagger in costume...
was to ask what was an obviously sympathetic question about how he feels about big banks having control of our money or whatever, the guy went on to talk about how he wants to kick the butts of the govt. (he called it the "tyrannical government" earlier) and went on and on about how this admin. doesn't follow the Constitution, blah blah blah, and Dylan's answer: "Understood. And I like your hat." (paraphrased)
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 04:52 PM
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66. Of course...that's what one teabagger would say to another.....
I like your hat.

Not why are you a piece of shit of a racist, and where were you the last 8 years.


At least he is reporting on Shelby now. But he's saying that Shelby has a point.

Fuck him.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 04:54 PM
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67. Exactly...
but when he interviewed Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, she couldn't get a word in edge-wise and he ended up having to apologize on tv after getting so many complaints.

"Understood. Nice hat." So he fully endorsed everything the racist nut said.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 04:51 PM
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65. More BS from you.

"since you are one of the ones most likely in line lapping up AP's bullshit"

- that assumption/accusation is just plain idiotic.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 05:02 PM
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69. You're right on the money, Frenchie. They love being fed corporate media bullshit
as long as it's anti-Obama.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 05:07 PM
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71. Yep. That's the taste test.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 10:57 PM
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138. do you have ANYTHING but personal attacks and pathetic attempts at defamation?
Edited on Fri Feb-05-10 11:02 PM by inna
:thumbsdown:

Lame and malicious, as always. :puke:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Feb-07-10 04:03 PM
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151. Ha! She's speaking facts and you call it "defamation".
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 05:01 PM
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68. Big push by the more conservative posters on this board to characterize anyone to their LEFT
as an enemy. Most realize that the comic potential of massive hyperbole, though. :silly:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 05:06 PM
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70. I wasn't conservative when I joined in 2003, and I ain't conservative now.....
Edited on Fri Feb-05-10 05:06 PM by FrenchieCat
What I'm NOT doing, however, is actively working against the Democratic party,
in order for the Republicans to end up in control......
and in order to be proven right like some of the Kucinich/Edwards/Nader (they all lost,
so they ain't governing) contigency of this forum are so invested in.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

Ratigan is not to the left of shit.
CNBC Wall Street commentators normally aren't,
unless of course they "Convert" or seem to
as soon as Obama is inaugurated.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 05:14 PM
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73. Honestly, Frenchie, I think you are ultimately a-political.
I don't believe your advocacy is issue based... :hi:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 05:21 PM
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76. Yeah, I know....you are way better than me.......
Cause you are soooo "Issue" oriented, or whatever.... :eyes:
cause of course, my views on any policy can't mean anything
as long as I support this President. :sarcasm:

Well, let me tell you something so that even you can understand,
I'm interested in progress. That's my issue. And I'll take it as it comes,
and as long as I don't feel that we are going backwards, ...considering the roadblocks,
and the alternatives, I'm there.

I came to this forum initially ranting against the media,
and supporting another Democrat.

I'm still ranting against this corporate piece of shit media,
and yes, I still support Democrats,
in particular those who have the power to give us progress.

It doesn't have to be more complicated than that.....
except for those who want to try and look down on others,
simply because some of us aren't here simply to rail against
power, no matter who has it. That may be your schtick, and more power to you for it,
but it simply doesn't make you better than anybody else. Sorry.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 05:23 PM
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79. I just can't see you criticizing this President no matter what promise he breaks.
You probably don't think he's broken any promises thus far. :silly:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 05:35 PM
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84. I don't need to.....there are more than enough of youse on this forum for that!
If my quest was to bring him and Democrats down so Republicans could be elected
so they can further fuck up our country, than perhaps I'd get in that
long line that you keep getting in each and every day and do just that.

See, I'm not a teabagger, so I don't call this President a liar at every turn,
and try to question his every move every time he scratches his ass,
and I certainly don't post bullshit articles that twist the truth,
and attempt to read in negative hypothetical bullshit in every move he makes.

and I sure in the fuck aren't gonna make it easy for him to be demonized
by spoiled ass brats who think they are entitled to something
just because they held their nose and voted, and decided to
see who they want to see in Barack OBama to make it easier to their Kucinich-made ideals,

My issue is progress....after 8 long ass years....
not simply in being right in how I think things should be ran.
If that makes me "conservative", I don't think so.....
and there are plenty who would agree with my view that progress is paramount...
just like I'm sure you have your folks who see things exactly as you do.
Vive la difference!
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 05:41 PM
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86. Um, QED mean anything to you? Unswerving loyalty = / = patriotism or civic engagement
The only reason your...ummm...let's say "steadfastness" is under attack is that you love to throw stones at those who are more critically engaged with policy, and less interested in horseracing.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #70
75. Anybody who thinks a CNBC money guy is a leftist needs to
have their head examined.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 05:21 PM
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77. Right. But all the ex-Goldman execs, investment bankers, and Clinton-era retreads surrounding Obama
are?

:rofl:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 05:23 PM
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80. But no one said they were way "Left".........
and they don't represent the entire Obama administration,
except for those who choose that view, cause it fits
with their spin.

But that's you saying Ratigan is a Leftist, or some bullshit like that!
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 05:24 PM
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81. Which brings us back to anybody to your Left is the enemy for noticing those investment bankers
and their influence on this President.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 05:28 PM
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82. Sorry, but Kucinich didn't win the election.
and Barack Obama is NOT a tall tan Kucinich.
He wasn't ever going to nationalize the banks,
and padlock the insurance companies, even if
that's what you and the teabaggers believed.

As for who has influence on the President.....
I think that he listens to a lot of views
and decides for himself......
and that's who I voted for and I knew that
when he was campaigning....


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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 05:30 PM
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83. I know, that means Kucinich is the enemy (to your Left). And *I* am your enemy (to your Left)
and Dylan Ratigan is your enemy (to your Left).

But Goldman Sachs retreads, investment bankers and insurance reps? Good friends.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 05:38 PM
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85. It's as if they think Obama had promised to outlaw capitalism
and now they hate him because he didn't. What I don't get is folks pretending that corporations are just NOW controlling too many things, now that Obama is in office. Corporations have held way too much sway over us for a long time.

I'd like to wish the "capitalism is inherently evil" crowd a lot of luck in their quest to do away with it. I agree with much of what they say. I also know, because I'm a pragmatist, that it's not going to die an easy or quick death. In fact, it may never die at all.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 07:31 PM
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95. What is going on isn't captialism
Edited on Fri Feb-05-10 07:31 PM by AllentownJake
To quote a good friend, having the government handing out capital to rich people, isn't capitalism.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 05:15 PM
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74. You have NO right to categorize ANYBODY on this board other than YOURSELF.
Who the hell do you think you are? Some all-knowing God for fuck's sake? Frenchie is NOT a conservative Democrat by any means.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 05:22 PM
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78. Of course I do. You can alert, else cram it with walnuts.
:hi:
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 05:43 PM
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87. I have been asking for weeks what side of the bread does this guy butter?
At the worst he is a teabagger.. at the best a libertarian ideologue..
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #87
100. Not many libertarians or Tea Baggers I know are calling for restoration of Glass Steagal
and banning of derivative trading :shrug:

In fact, they blame the government regulation for causing the problem in the first place.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:05 PM
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103. I didn't hear him calling out Republicans for standing in the way of
financial reform.....because he fucking doesn't.

He only rants if it makes the Administration look bad.
He is very selective.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:12 PM
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106. What financial reform?
Or are you talking about the Bullshit that we were talking about pre-Scott Brown.
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seattle_blue (290 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 06:08 PM
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88. Ratigan was nothing today
If you think Ratigan was bad you should have watched Matthews aka Tweety today. He was praising Sister Sarah like she was the new sliced bread.
Tweety called Palin's newly discovered ethics problems "small potatoes."
I mean he was really crawling up her xxx.
I guess MSNBC got their official marching orders for the 2010/12 elections.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 07:07 PM
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90. Oh for christ sake
anyone who has anything critical to say about the administration is now a Tea Bagger?

I don't know many Tea Baggers arguing for a return of the new deal. Dylan is making outreach to them, he basically calls them disorganized nuts who are rightfully angry, but don't have a clue what they are angry about.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 07:24 PM
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92. I thought you were gone?
I thought you were over writing at the old Elm Tree or some site like that. :shrug:


Racist are much more than disorganize nuts....
and these fucking nutbags garnet more press control
than the entire Democratic party.

I know an asshole when I hear one, and Ratigan is just that.

But go on and believe!

Here's where the Teabaggers got started...cause I wrote about it then,
45 days into this President's term:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Rick-Santelli-Chicagot...

http://www.demochttp://journals.democraticunderground.c...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/FrenchieCat/4...
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 07:29 PM
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94. Miss me?
:hi:

The site was lacking some economic knowledge, I try to stay focused on that.

However, I watched Ratigan's segment yesterday, and he wasn't very complimentary. In fact, I believe he called them weeds instead of grass roots.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 08:27 PM
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96. Yeah...I watched him too, hence this thread.
he wasn't uncomplimentary.....
and certainly didn't call them out on anything.

He is a Teabagger who simply talks a good game....
but when it comes to what he knows, most of it are verbal missives,
similar to the ones repeately lobbed here at DU,
long on name calling and demonizing, but short on depth and/or substance....
and he most likely quite understand that what he rants on
is something someone like you would want to hear.
Face it; he's good at it! Good at getting the non-informed nincompoop together with
those who believe they know too much to march in unison and pretend that
Obama is the bad guy who started it all, and will finish us all.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 08:36 PM
Response to Reply #96
98. Frenchie
He was mocking them. Do you honestly think showing two Tea Baggers yelling at each other or a guy dressed up like a fake revolutionary soldier talking in a fake accent was meant to make them appear in a positive light.

He called the convention an exploitation by the big wigs in the GOP.

I really want to see what the hell you watched today.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #98
101. Mocking an outfit is not the same as calling them out for what they are.....
Teabaggers aren't being exploided;
they are the ones exploiding the Average American.

These fucking Teabaggers know exactly what they are doing,
which is why a mere 600 can get together and end up with
200 reporters, and major time on all of the cable shows...
including Ratigan's piece of shit.

This is what he shows us.....
http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002548 /

and laughing at an outfit doesn't mean diddly,
except to those who want to see signs
that this guy isn't a teabagger,
although he is.

Watch this piece that you posted on that thread
over at GD (which is now locked)
and tell me where he actually calls them out and on what.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31510813/#35262786

He's triangulates his way through that entire segment,
and leaves folks believe that these are just folks
who have had it with Banks and Government,
and that a few of them are a bit odd.

But if you think this is a confrontational piece,
then you are worse off than I thought!

In that segment, what he doesn't tell you is that
they, the teabaggers are aiming their ire only at this Administration,
and started doing this 45 days after Obama was sworn in....
and they haven't let up yet. He doesn't mention that this movement
was started by his friend Santelli of CNBC when they both worked there...
What he doesn't tell you is that these Teabaggers ain't nothing but a bunch
of Republican racists who can't get over the fact that Obama was elected.
What he doesn't tell you is that Republicans Congress members have met with
teabaggers, because as far as they are all concerned, they are all on the same side;
against this particular administration.

That's what he doesn't mention.....at anytime, anywhere.

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:11 PM
Response to Reply #101
105. Whether you like them or not
They are just folks. There is racism in there, racism that has been stoked for 200 years by the white upper class to the white lower classes. There is no excuse for it, but is a common practice by the ruling elite that has taken place in every single culture since time began. Read the story of the good Samaritan again and remember the meaning of the story. Samaritans were the discriminated ones of the Jewish State under Roman occupation they shared the same God and heritage, but were others, and the Temple Priest took advantage of it.

They are exploiting no one. They are confused people, not certain why the world has totally blown up and are acting crazy.

Oh and just so you know, he probably was told he has to do that segment. As Rachel and Keith were tonight.

I don't know about you, the worst insult you could ever hurl at me was that I was unwittingly being used by powerful people to do things against my own interest.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #105
113. "They are just folks"????
They are just Angry Republicans that are mad that they lost the election,
and that a Black Man is in charge.

that's why their asses were out there protesting 40 days after Obama's inauguration.



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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:29 PM
Response to Reply #113
116. Whether you like them or not
They are your fellow citizens and have every right to be as ridiculous as they want to be.

Honestly, you should be thrilled about the nonsense they are saying, it ruins their credibility and the last 3 GOPers that won big races, have totally ran away from them.

I'm pretty sure they have families, lost jobs, hopes and dreams like the rest of us.
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BlueIdaho (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 07:26 PM
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93. Ratigan = Wall Street right wing shill - EOM.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Feb-06-10 02:27 PM
Response to Reply #93
142. What total nonsense. Ratigan is THE biggest critic of Wall Street in the MSM.

Your claim is completely and utterly ignorant and is an opposite of truth.

There is simply no other commentator in the MSM right now who's been as harshly critical of Wall Street as Ratigan.

He brings up stuff that no one else in the MSM would touch, and he's been brutal and unafraid of speaking truth to power.
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BlueIdaho (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Feb-07-10 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #142
150. My apologies
Dylan Ratigan is not a shill he is simply a loud mouth hot head that's bounced from show to show and network to network simply because the most important thing to Dylan Ratigan is hearing the sound of his own voice.

Carry on.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 08:34 PM
Response to Original message
97. I just rewatched the segment
He was mocking them, some people are pretty dense.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #97
102. You might want to watch it again......
so that you can note Ratigan's triangulation on what these
Teabaggers really believe and who they are really going after.

Milktoast ain't even close to what Ratigan represented during that segment.

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #102
108. I think you are starting to lose it
If you really think anyone came off with a positive image of that mob after watching that segment.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #97
104. He was joking playfully about the teabagger's costume. He didn't mock anything the guy SAID.
He just said, "Understood" after his rant and added, "Nice hat." Why wasn't he his usual obnoxious, interrupting self, getting on the guy for claiming the Obama admin. doesn't understand the Constitution for one thing?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #104
107. Probably because the guy is a fool
and not a person in a position of any real power. I don't know about you, there is something about shooting down a pathetic fool in a costume, I think the fake accent and tri corner hat spoke for themselves.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #107
109. He made some serious accusations regardless of his stupid costume. Dylan let him get away with it,
therefore endorsing him by not condemning or refuting him. I don't know about you, but there is something about giving a teabagger a platform to lie (and not challenging him) that I find distasteful to say the least.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #109
110. The guy was stammering on incoherently for 3 minutes
Edited on Fri Feb-05-10 09:24 PM by AllentownJake
Sometimes letting someone talk, is the best defense. Honestly, you think Tri corner hat guy convinced anyone, they found the most ridiculous idiot at the convention and put him on TV, trust me Tea baggers aren't happy.

The guy he was debating with, said somethings that 99% of DU would agree with and frankly isn't something I hear most Tea Baggers say.

The government is taxing people and than handing money to corporate sponsors who in turn back the politicians during elections.

His solution is to cut off government spending, the left's solution is to ban corporate donations.

His evaluation of the problem was correct, up until he issued his solution.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #110
114. He was a dangerous teabagger in a stupid costume. Lots of people take the people in those
dumb costumes seriously. It's not his fake accent-it's his words. And they were false and accusatory-not incoherent. If you want to excuse Dylan for not challenging him, that's on YOU. I think he should've challenged him like he does everyone else-usually liberals like Debbie Wasserman-Shultz.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #114
121. Let me explain to you very rationally the last 3 big democratic losses
Edited on Fri Feb-05-10 09:35 PM by AllentownJake
The candidates that won in the GOP, distanced themselves from the nutbags. There was a nutbag on the ballot in 2 out of the 3 races, and the GOP guy who won claimed to be an independent who was going to fight for change.

The idiots in the costumes are a side show.

Debbie is a person in power and in 2008 wasn't all that helpful to her fellow dem candidates in Flordia, I might add and is hardly a liberal, the guy in the costume, is about as dangerous to the President's political ambitions as Code Pink was to President Bush's.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #121
123. You're crazier than the guy in the costume if you don't think he's a real danger to
Edited on Fri Feb-05-10 09:42 PM by jenmito
Obama. His message of HATE in the teabagger convention, where they make Obama out to be nearly a terrorist, sends the message to other people who can get right up to the President and hurt him physically-not politically.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #123
124. I have every confidence in the world in the Secret Service
Edited on Fri Feb-05-10 09:46 PM by AllentownJake
and the fact of the matter is, the President has not pissed off the people who would really have the ability to actually hurt him physically. If the President was ever hurt physically, I'd look to Wall Street or the Pentagon, not the crazy Tea Bagging convention in Nashville.

Put it this way, a good size of the population has hated every single President since I was born, the last one who was physically assaulted was in 1981, and the President doesn't go out in the open anymore like that.

I've seen them in action and have worked events for candidate Obama and Biden.

Anything happens, it was an inside job.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:24 PM
Response to Reply #109
111. That is correct. It ain't what he looked like, it's what he said
that Ratigan, normally ready to call out this administration at the drop of a pin, couldn't call out this guy on his political beliefs. Furthermore, when another Teabagger was interviewed and was saying that this was Bipartisan, Ratigan didn't say boo.....and we all know damn well this ain't no "bipartisan" outfit.

Ratigan gave them coverage, and he also gave them cover...cause normally he's all in everyone's face, and there, in terms of the political issues that the teabaggers stand for, he was more or less mute......

And nothing about their racist ass views. No calling them out on asking them where were they during the Bush administration. Not even calling out the size of this so called convention.
In other words, Ratigan = Nada on the subject of what a Teabagger believes and how it is inconsistent with the truth.

That's showing them....and most important, that's showing us! :sarcasm:
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #111
112. You are really slipping
His producers found the most ridiculous person at the convention and gave him air time. This is the equivalent of when CNN finds the most ridiculously dressed war protester and interviews them. It is why when I organize protest I tell people to middle class it up and screen signs.

:rofl:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #112
115. You wish!
He may have tried to make them seem harmless and kind of funny,
but he certainly didn't question why in the fuck they keep getting
so much press, now did he? Why they carrying fucked up signs of the
President wherever they go.

Please, I wasn't born yesterday.

I'm not slipping, but you are hanging by a thread.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #115
118. Frenchie
You do understand that the hateful signs, as much as they may offend you and me, also offend pretty much everyone else outside of their silly movement and that people don't take people seriously who dress up in costume and talk in fake accents.

You understand that right?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #112
117. Keep laughing...
when one of those ridiculously dressed teabaggers tries to hurt the President, maybe you'll change your tune. :eyes:
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #117
119. I guess we should start water boarding and tapping their phones than right?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #119
120. I'm sure the FBI has people in there keeping an eye/ear on them. You're foolish if you
Edited on Fri Feb-05-10 09:35 PM by jenmito
think they're harmless.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #120
122. I'm sure they are watching all of us
which isn't necessarily a good thing.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:45 PM
Response to Reply #122
125. Nice try at changing the subject. This is about a dangerous person in a dangerous "party," and
how Ratigan let him say whatever he wanted without challenging him.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #125
126. His producers found the silliest person at the convention
and let him ramble for 3 minutes and showed a clip of them yelling at each other, and a few of you are angry.

Laughing at someone is more dangerous than taking them seriously.

Remember the order, first they laugh at you...
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #126
127. Keep telling yourself that. There were quite a few people dressed like him-thanks to
Glenn Beck-the most hateful fearmonger of them all. These people are dangerous. Their words are dangerous. I hope we never find out HOW dangerous. But the point is Dylan didn't even challenge them on ANY of their stances. But go ahead and keep defending him.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-05-10 09:58 PM
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