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Can we think of a slogan with more oomph than "A Better Deal"? (Original Post) elehhhhna Jan 2018 OP
Yeah... kentuck Jan 2018 #1
Fuck Trump. roamer65 Jan 2018 #2
To hell with "A Better Deal". democratisphere Jan 2018 #3
You took the words right out of my mouth meow2u3 Jan 2018 #87
What is that lame slogan about? TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #4
Pelosi resurrected it today. I think it was Hils campaign motto? It's weak. elehhhhna Jan 2018 #10
Thx. It's a dud. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #11
"Stronger Together" was the Democratic Party's 2016 campaign slogan. lapucelle Jan 2018 #15
Thanks lapuclle.. It would be hard Cha Jan 2018 #19
They were too busy complaining about the logo JI7 Jan 2018 #22
It was, regrettably, easily forgettable elehhhhna Jan 2018 #89
I didn't forget it. N/T lapucelle Jan 2018 #91
"I think it was Hills campaign motto?" WHAT betsuni Jan 2018 #23
Still blaming Hillary for anything they don't like. brer cat Jan 2018 #40
Happy New Year to you, too! betsuni Jan 2018 #41
+1000! mcar Jan 2018 #42
Transparent with this one. Thanks. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #63
How about... Dulcinea Jan 2018 #60
A More Perfect Union. GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #5
Yeah ggmac0427 Jan 2018 #6
Thats not very unifying. Atman Jan 2018 #29
35% tazkcmo Jan 2018 #80
Now PC and ID free! gulliver Jan 2018 #7
Time to Take Out the Trash Goodheart Jan 2018 #8
Yes We Can handmade34 Jan 2018 #9
WE CARE! Watched video by Randy Bryce, one of Paul Ryan's opponent for US Rep. RestoreAmerica2020 Jan 2018 #12
You know Ryan has more than one opponent, right? brooklynite Jan 2018 #24
Thanks. Corrected, revised title RestoreAmerica2020 Jan 2018 #65
Its anyone stopping you from using something else ? JI7 Jan 2018 #13
This time we mean it, pretty much! NBachers Jan 2018 #14
lol.. it's kinda funny 'cause Cha Jan 2018 #18
If only we could get Arnold Schwartzenegger to say it. Buns_of_Fire Jan 2018 #31
"We need our own Frank Luntz." CrispyQ Jan 2018 #83
Is the problem with the word "better"? lapucelle Jan 2018 #16
A Better Deal shanny Jan 2018 #37
And a "New Deal" could have implied something just as bad as lapucelle Jan 2018 #44
Doesn't matter now what a "New Deal" might have implied at the time shanny Jan 2018 #46
Pretty much everything good and decent in our country Control-Z Jan 2018 #17
Excellent post, Control-Z.. Cha Jan 2018 #20
Thanks, Cha. Control-Z Jan 2018 #50
So true -- RandomAccess Jan 2018 #79
Get yourself elected to office treestar Jan 2018 #21
Yep. "Deal" implies there is some sort of negotiation or partnership ck4829 Jan 2018 #25
Yup... StarryNite Jan 2018 #77
who thought up that winner? samnsara Jan 2018 #26
I'm betting it was whoever designed the D in a circle logo. Demit Jan 2018 #28
I don't think Mark Twain did graphic design, lapucelle Jan 2018 #47
?? Demit Jan 2018 #51
"A Better Deal" is an iteration of the lapucelle Jan 2018 #57
Slogans aren't graphic design. They're copywriting. Demit Jan 2018 #68
My response was directed at the comment about the Democratic Party logo. lapucelle Jan 2018 #72
SS+K designed the logo. lapucelle Jan 2018 #49
It's an iteration of something FDR said in his 1932 nomination acceptence speech. lapucelle Jan 2018 #45
How about "Save The Country?" Vinca Jan 2018 #27
Republicans think America was already saved. Atman Jan 2018 #55
How about "Stop the Shit Storm?" n/t rzemanfl Jan 2018 #30
Great slogan Chickensoup Jan 2018 #32
NO DEAL superpatriotman Jan 2018 #33
Make America AMERICA Again. I like that. nt Buns_of_Fire Jan 2018 #34
No More Bullshit. Orrex Jan 2018 #35
It is honest. I don't think Congressional Dems delisen Jan 2018 #36
Make America Kind Again. dawg Jan 2018 #38
Righties think being "kind" is a sign of weakness. Atman Jan 2018 #53
How about "We can all agree...." vi5 Jan 2018 #39
I think its a riff off of New Deal ismnotwasm Jan 2018 #43
Most Americans don't know what the fuck was happening in 1933 elehhhhna Jan 2018 #90
"Throw the Bum Out & Lock Him Up!" MineralMan Jan 2018 #48
I actually think "A Better Deal" isn't bad. However it has to be properly followed up on. n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2018 #52
America united C_U_L8R Jan 2018 #54
America United is actually pretty good. Atman Jan 2018 #56
Thanks. It's Together We Can 2.0 C_U_L8R Jan 2018 #61
"Stronger together" is similar and didn't get the person who used it elected President. n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2018 #84
You need the best candidate first. The slogan is not a candidate. Atman Jan 2018 #92
The Rescuing America Act or The American Fairness Act LonePirate Jan 2018 #58
How about "Reigniting the Promise of America" ? oberliner Jan 2018 #59
"A Good Deal" shanny Jan 2018 #62
How about, "No Deal" Bayard Jan 2018 #64
Well, "what have you got to lose" seemed to work for Trump BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #66
Make America Sane Again. L. Coyote Jan 2018 #67
How about, "Things Could Be Worse, ..." JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2018 #69
how about - "Stop treating people and the planet like garbage?" - n/t Locrian Jan 2018 #70
I don't understand why people are obsessing over this all of a sudden.... George II Jan 2018 #71
"Not Fucking Traitors" works for me. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #73
Leading America, with Pride and Integrity BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #74
I like "A Modern New Deal" PatsFan87 Jan 2018 #75
How about "A Brand New Deal"? meow2u3 Jan 2018 #88
I think..... CherokeeDem Jan 2018 #76
I like that! PatsFan87 Jan 2018 #78
A high colonic gibraltar72 Jan 2018 #81
United for the Real America! nt procon Jan 2018 #82
They need a slew of slogans. CrispyQ Jan 2018 #85
"Neither Corrupt Nor Senile"? "Fit to Govern"? "Not a Putin Puppet"? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2018 #86

lapucelle

(18,411 posts)
15. "Stronger Together" was the Democratic Party's 2016 campaign slogan.
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 10:38 PM
Jan 2018

I'm surprised that some people here don't remember it.

Cha

(298,087 posts)
19. Thanks lapuclle.. It would be hard
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 05:18 AM
Jan 2018

to forget for those who followed the Democratic Presidential Candidate in 2016.



We sure are!

betsuni

(25,821 posts)
23. "I think it was Hills campaign motto?" WHAT
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 08:32 AM
Jan 2018

How can you not know it was "Stronger Together"? Where have you been?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
63. Transparent with this one. Thanks.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 11:47 AM
Jan 2018

There was this one slogan last time around that had everyone thinking about antibiotics and a decades old essay.

ggmac0427

(38 posts)
6. Yeah
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 07:52 PM
Jan 2018

Recently read Paul Ryan's opponent: "We care, they don't"

"Get rid of the garbage"... with a cartoon showing a person carrying a garbage bag with GOP written on it.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
29. Thats not very unifying.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 09:06 AM
Jan 2018

Slogans like that only appeal to the base. We won’t win without getting a broad spectrum of voters. Calling 1/2 of them, and the party which they may identify with, “garbage” isn’t going to achieve anything but make many of them say “eff you, too’!” and dig in their heals.

tazkcmo

(7,306 posts)
80. 35%
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 01:41 PM
Jan 2018

That is the percentage of American voters that will always support the GOPee and shitgibbon. It is okay to alienate those assholes because the Democratic Party should be focusing on the 50% of Americans that don't vote and that number is even higher in midterms. In fact, I've seen 80% or higher that don't vote during the midterms. Whatever slogan we choose it does not need to appeal to 35% of the voting public that are dumber than f****** rocks.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,439 posts)
12. WE CARE! Watched video by Randy Bryce, one of Paul Ryan's opponent for US Rep.
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 09:00 PM
Jan 2018

Last edited Tue Jan 2, 2018, 12:13 PM - Edit history (6)

of Wisconsin. Bryce seems like your average hard working American. He's an iron worker, union member, military veteran, cancer survivor and he's a democrat. In his video ad, Bryce uses the mantra "because we care" or ''we care.' It reminded me about what George Lakoff, linquust, author and retired professor said some time ago that is relevant to this post.

George Lakoff while guest on the Tavis Smily Show (pbs) sometime during the summer, said something, something I had noticed as well...he talked about how the Women's March (Jan 21,2017) was critizied by right-wing pundits ...that there wasn't a clear message they said...complete chaos. Lakoff disagreed, said they were wrong; that there was a clear message.

He continued by acknowleging the many special interest groups participating, such as activist for Black Lives Matters; native lands and cultural protections; immigrant, refugees rights; woman's equal rights; increase minimum wage; environmental protections. ..and many more.

Yet, he said...given the participation of many groups wth diiverse concerns, there was ONE resounding cohesive theme threaded through as if to bind them all, I thought ) and that message was that WE CARE. I recall saying, yes- that's it!

WE CARE! That defines the democratic party and every democrat here and throughout the Country...that's our message..short succinct. simply put..WE CARE about the uninsured, the homeless, the hungry, the immigrant, the planet, we care that people earn a decent wage, we care about quality education, we care about the young and elderly, the disabled, the veteran. We care!

JI7

(89,289 posts)
13. Its anyone stopping you from using something else ?
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 09:04 PM
Jan 2018

Obama's 'fired up' was started by a woman volunteering for him. She just started using it and others picked it up.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,218 posts)
31. If only we could get Arnold Schwartzenegger to say it.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 09:12 AM
Jan 2018
Vote Democrat: Most of us are not greedy scum-sucking psychopathic perverts who lust for your daughter

True, but not pithy enough. It'd be rough fitting that on a bumpersticker.

Vote Democrat: We don't like him any better than you do

Also true. Also not pithy enough.

Vote Democrat or Die

You may have something there.

We need our own Frank Luntz. I vote for John Fugelsang.
 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
37. A Better Deal
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 09:49 AM
Jan 2018

than what we have now "could" still be a rotten deal...I think we need to think bigger.

"Not as bad as those guys" doesn't cut it.

lapucelle

(18,411 posts)
44. And a "New Deal" could have implied something just as bad as
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 10:30 AM
Jan 2018

or worse than the old deal.

At any rate, I think it's more important to articulate clear policy goals with concrete steps to to accomplish them and to remind voters that the Democratic Party has a record of delivering social and economic change.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
46. Doesn't matter now what a "New Deal" might have implied at the time
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 10:38 AM
Jan 2018

only what it did. And articulating clear policy goals with concrete steps to accomplish them is difficult in a bumper-sticker slogan.

"Make America Great Again" worked, despite the putrid nature of its cheerleader, and that it was a lie.

"A Better Deal" feels weak; how about "A Good Deal"? with its double-meaning of a) better, and b) more.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
17. Pretty much everything good and decent in our country
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 10:43 PM
Jan 2018

is because of Democrats.

We need a campaign about all the great things Democrats have done. Since it won't all fit into one sound bite we could have a new ad every few weeks with another great thing the Democrats have done. Same basic ad with a different great thing every few weeks.

CHIP brought to you by the Democratic party.

It was Democrats who brought you Social Security and Medicare.

Civil Rights and Women’s Right to Vote? Yes, you guessed it. Brought to you by Democrats.

Free contraceptives also brought to you by the Democratic party.

By November the public should have a good idea who's better for America.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
50. Thanks, Cha.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 11:05 AM
Jan 2018

I've actually thought about this a lot and believe most people, good voters included, just aren't aware of the many great things Democrats have done for America. Our track record is great and couldn't be more different than those other guys'. If only people knew.

ck4829

(35,096 posts)
25. Yep. "Deal" implies there is some sort of negotiation or partnership
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 08:54 AM
Jan 2018

Our government should be "Us", not some "Other" party at the opposite side of the table.

StarryNite

(9,476 posts)
77. Yup...
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 01:30 PM
Jan 2018

Personally I don't like the "Deal" deal either. In this day and age it sounds very "trumpish" as in "The Art of the Deal".

lapucelle

(18,411 posts)
47. I don't think Mark Twain did graphic design,
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 10:46 AM
Jan 2018

and I'm pretty sure that he'd find "Unfuck America" problematic at best.

lapucelle

(18,411 posts)
57. "A Better Deal" is an iteration of the
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 11:17 AM
Jan 2018

Democratic slogan "A New Deal", a phrase that FDR "borrowed" from Mark Twain.

SS+K designed the logo. If there are any aspiring Don Drapers out there, dust off those portfolios! There's a link for those with expertise who are seeking jobs.

http://www.twainquotes.com/NewDeal.html

https://www.ssk.com/#!/ssk

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
68. Slogans aren't graphic design. They're copywriting.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 12:37 PM
Jan 2018

And do you really think that a reference to a slogan from the Depression era is going to resonate with younger generations? They can barely remember what WWII was about. I'm an aging Baby Boomer and even I didn't recognize the weak callback to FDR's slogan.

(That is an awful website, btw. And I say that as a graphic designer. If that's your shop, sorry, but I can fully believe it designed the D logo.)

lapucelle

(18,411 posts)
72. My response was directed at the comment about the Democratic Party logo.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 01:13 PM
Jan 2018

Although the current logo would not have been my first choice, because I do not work in graphic design, I would never presume to be an expert.

I'm not sure why anyone would doubt that SS+K designed the logo. They did some work for President Obama's 2012 campaign and FLOTUS Michelle's "Let's Move" campaign.

https://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/d-emocrats.php

lapucelle

(18,411 posts)
45. It's an iteration of something FDR said in his 1932 nomination acceptence speech.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 10:36 AM
Jan 2018

Apparently, FDR borrowed the phrase from Mark Twain.

http://www.twainquotes.com/NewDeal.html

Vinca

(50,334 posts)
27. How about "Save The Country?"
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 08:55 AM
Jan 2018

That's where we're at. Democrats cannot be shy about running against Dear Leader and his merry band of ass kissers.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
55. Republicans think America was already saved.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 11:13 AM
Jan 2018

Trump saved America from the horrible black man, and the email sender.

It's a bad message. We need something POSITIVE, not telling half the voters that they made a stupid mistake. A message that is forward-looking and inclusive.

delisen

(6,050 posts)
36. It is honest. I don't think Congressional Dems
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 09:49 AM
Jan 2018

are prepared to go beyond aiming at a limited increase in economic share.

If their sole aim is to focus on electing as many Democrats as possible, they need to balance appeal to the majority of the people while not alienating the powerful few.

A political party caucus in congress is not visionary. I think it is focused on the next election.

But we should really ask them what the slogan means.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
53. Righties think being "kind" is a sign of weakness.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 11:10 AM
Jan 2018

You can't be KIND! Being kind is what America into this mess, don't cha know?! 'Murca needs to kick ass and stop being so nice.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
39. How about "We can all agree...."
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 10:06 AM
Jan 2018

"We can all agree that abortion is bad, BUT...."
"We can all agree that high taxes are bad, BUT...."
"We can all agree that we want a strong military, BUT...."
"We can all agree that job creation is good, BUT....."
"We can all agree that public education is broken, BUT...."
"We can all agree that welfare is bad, BUT...."
"We can all agree that a high deficit is bad, BUT...."

I'm sure there are a few I missed, but that seems to be a lot of the core of our tactics since Reagan was in office.

Or maybe we can do a catch all and say "Democrats: Allowing Republicans to frame the debate since 1980."

ismnotwasm

(42,028 posts)
43. I think its a riff off of New Deal
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 10:29 AM
Jan 2018

New deal policies being in the cross hairs of Republicans. It’s not that bad, if used correctly

Atman

(31,464 posts)
56. America United is actually pretty good.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 11:16 AM
Jan 2018

It says "bipartisanship," it is positive, it is inclusive. It is a message that angry Democrats and disaffected Republicans can look at and get the same message of unity instead of a another divisive battle cry.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
92. You need the best candidate first. The slogan is not a candidate.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 04:01 PM
Jan 2018

But that said, any slogan needs to be short, positive and inclusive. Looking at a lot of these suggestions, there are a lot that make good sound bites for a stump speech, but are much too long, too wordy, to a good campaign slogan. To that end MAGA and Make America Great Again are excellent. The fit on hats and bumper stickers and roll off the tongue.

So...how about Unite America Again. A subtle dig at Trump which the Dems will appreciate, a positive message for everybody fed up with the current divisive politics. And it fits nicely on hats.

George II

(67,782 posts)
71. I don't understand why people are obsessing over this all of a sudden....
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 01:07 PM
Jan 2018

....that "slogan" was introduced about six months ago, back in July 2017.

People should be expending their energy supporting Democrats, working for them, and getting elected rather than complaining about a campaign slogan.

Slogans don't get Democratic candidates elected, VOTERS do.

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
74. Leading America, with Pride and Integrity
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 01:25 PM
Jan 2018

and actually be truthful and honest in the public, spoken word.

PatsFan87

(368 posts)
75. I like "A Modern New Deal"
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 01:26 PM
Jan 2018

It speaks to the nostalgic feelings of FDR's New Deal but the word "modern" would make people curious as to what is in the new New Deal.

CrispyQ

(36,567 posts)
85. They need a slew of slogans.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 01:54 PM
Jan 2018

One for every issue. Dem leadership should read "Moral Politics" by George Lakoff. People are emotionally attached to their political beliefs. A page with your platform is great, but you need a message to get them there, & that needs to resonate on an emotional level.

Here are some slogans, written by The People. Gee, why didn't dem leadership query us & ask what we think? Any of these are better than a better deal.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/04/opinion/a-new-democratic-slogan-your-choices.html?_r=0

snip:

“The Real Deal”

“A Better Deal” rests on a case of one-upmanship: What we offer doesn’t have to be good, just better. That’s dancing to someone else’s tune.

“The Real Deal” reminds voters that Democrats are serious about governance; it isn’t all hyperbole and empty rhetoric. It suggests that Democrats know how to deliver — on health care, job growth, banking protections, equality under the law. It showcases reality and the task of finding real solutions to America’s problems. The president will continue to whine about “fake news,” while doing his best to gaslight the nation. This leaves Democrats with the great opportunity to define themselves as the enemies of unreality: We are … “the real deal.”




Some others from the link:

For the Many, Not the Few <3
Make Reading the News Relaxing Again.
An America that Works

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