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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:20 PM Jan 2018

The psychiatrist who briefed Congress on Trumps mental state: this is "an emergency"

The psychiatrist who briefed Congress on Trump’s mental state: this is “an emergency”
The case for evaluating the president’s mental capacity — by force if necessary.
By Eliza Barclay vox.com Jan 5, 2018, 10:10am EST

The longer Donald Trump is in office, the more he shocks and alarms us with his strange and extremely unpresidential behavior.

From the incoherent, fallacious interview he gave the New York Times on December 28 to Tuesday’s tweet about his “nuclear button” to his smearing of Steve Bannon, the incendiary remarks keep getting more menacing and portentous of disaster. As Vox’s Ezra Klein recently wrote, “The president of the United States is not well.”

But how unwell is he, really? Could the behavior be caused by some illness eating away at his mental capacity, or is it just bad behavior?

This is a question of crucial importance, not just because the vice president and the Cabinet (or Congress) would need certainty about his mental incompetence to invoke the 25th Amendment and declare him unable to do his job — an option that, while still highly unlikely to be used, is now regularly being discussed.

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/1/5/16770060/trump-mental-health-psychiatrist-25th-amendment
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The psychiatrist who briefed Congress on Trumps mental state: this is "an emergency" (Original Post) workinclasszero Jan 2018 OP
I can't help thinking this is going to offer him a way out... to go quietly or go to jail. OnDoutside Jan 2018 #1
The anti-American republican party has a small window of opportunity workinclasszero Jan 2018 #3
I'd agree with that assessment though I think it would be enough if his stupid OnDoutside Jan 2018 #5
I agree...they can have Donny go quietly into that dark night.....or BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #6
He will never go to jail. The crazies on the radical right would create murder and mayhem. Lil Missy Jan 2018 #7
He will never go to jail, yes, but not because of the crazies. It will be OnDoutside Jan 2018 #8
Maybe the ESTABLISHMENT thinks it would be a disgrace, pangaia Jan 2018 #15
If he doesn't go to jail Mr.Bill Jan 2018 #14
I am almost ready to give him the out. Cracklin Charlie Jan 2018 #11
Cenk called this on TYT a couple of months ago Saviolo Jan 2018 #20
GOP is willing to risk humanity, and they are, to get their way Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #2
Short of a catatonic state he will be left alone. gordianot Jan 2018 #4
This is serious business folks, and tRUMP's cabinet and/or Congress needs to... SWBTATTReg Jan 2018 #9
That is the problem from what I read in an article BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #18
Sadly that is the only likely scenario IMO workinclasszero Jan 2018 #22
Dr. Lee is outstanding. H2O Man Jan 2018 #10
I hope is fall is horribly humiliating. CrispyQ Jan 2018 #12
I guess the key question is whether Trump is crazy or just nuts? ollie10 Jan 2018 #13
It is REPUBLICANS who are responsible for him still being in office. pangaia Jan 2018 #16
Trying to remember gibraltar72 Jan 2018 #17
25th Amendment Now. sarcasmo Jan 2018 #19
Trump is a criminal. librechik Jan 2018 #21
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
3. The anti-American republican party has a small window of opportunity
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jan 2018

to get rid of Donny Bonespurs before they face a devastating wipe out by the blue tsunami headed their way in the 2018 elections.

They could force him out or bribe him out , though the asking price would be tens of millions I bet.

OnDoutside

(19,986 posts)
5. I'd agree with that assessment though I think it would be enough if his stupid
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:31 PM
Jan 2018

Family don't serve jail time.

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
6. I agree...they can have Donny go quietly into that dark night.....or
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:32 PM
Jan 2018

.....or they could face another Nixonesque humiliation. They never ever got over the Nixon blundercuss and it's taint on the party...But to have two of those types of very public corruption issues? Well, that would be too delicious for the the DEMS. Are they willing to do that again?

OnDoutside

(19,986 posts)
8. He will never go to jail, yes, but not because of the crazies. It will be
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:38 PM
Jan 2018

because the establishment won't want that disgrace brought upon the United States of America. It won't stop them from trying it on with a disturbed Trump.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
15. Maybe the ESTABLISHMENT thinks it would be a disgrace,
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 03:13 PM
Jan 2018

but the rest of the world would be proud of us!!!

Mr.Bill

(24,368 posts)
14. If he doesn't go to jail
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 03:04 PM
Jan 2018

what is happening now will happen again. We are where we are at now because Nixon and the Bushes never went to jail. There must be consequences for what Trump and his crew are doing. To dig up an old battle cry, "The whole world is watching". Anyone who does not vote for his impeachment and removal from office is complicit.

Saviolo

(3,284 posts)
20. Cenk called this on TYT a couple of months ago
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 04:16 PM
Jan 2018

That an Alzheimer's diagnosis would give him not only a graceful out without having to lose, but possibly even sympathy. Trump will get no sympathy from me, not when he's already done so much to hurt people.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,137 posts)
2. GOP is willing to risk humanity, and they are, to get their way
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:23 PM
Jan 2018

and that includes ending women's rights, and all minority rights, so dont expect them to do the right thing until we have judges in position who will never follow the law but always follow rightwing racism.

gordianot

(15,257 posts)
4. Short of a catatonic state he will be left alone.
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jan 2018

It will take seriously self inflicted drastic human disaster to rouse the GOP Congress and even then I would not take bets.

SWBTATTReg

(22,205 posts)
9. This is serious business folks, and tRUMP's cabinet and/or Congress needs to...
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:57 PM
Jan 2018

seriously get real and do something, before something really bad happens...e.g., if North Korea or other 'hot spot' attacks because of tRUMP's ignorant statements, then the republican party and tRUMP's cabinet should be held forever in contempt by the American people in failing to protect us...

The republicans should be banned forever from running for any kind of office and made an illegal political party and all who were in tRUMP's cabinet and the Senate who enabled tRUMP should be convicted of war crimes against humanity and thrown in prison.

I know that this is rather harsh, but if you are like me, I've never felt so insecure as I do now w/ world affairs...

BigmanPigman

(51,660 posts)
18. That is the problem from what I read in an article
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 03:54 PM
Jan 2018

Last edited Fri Jan 5, 2018, 06:13 PM - Edit history (1)

a few months ago. It is a complex process and it probably will be easier and faster to get the Dems in office in the midterms and impeach him. Here's the article.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-madness-of-donald-trump-removal-25th-amendment-w504149

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
22. Sadly that is the only likely scenario IMO
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 05:59 PM
Jan 2018

Republicans and the 1%ers that own them are good with a demented madman at the helm with the capability of ending civilization on this planet anytime he gets the urge to from his lizard brain.

CrispyQ

(36,565 posts)
12. I hope is fall is horribly humiliating.
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 02:50 PM
Jan 2018
Eliza Barclay
And you are really worried that his mental disturbances will lead to a military confrontation with North Korea — and a nuclear holocaust.

Bandy Lee
Yes — but that is not the only danger we’re facing. There’s everything in between: provoking our allies and alienating them, instigating civil conflict, and laying a foundation for a violent culture that could give way to epidemics of violence — not to mention poke a beehive in the Middle East by declaring Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. All of these actions are consistent with the pathological pattern he has already shown of resorting to violence the more he feels threatened.

And it is no accident that gun deaths are up at least 12 percent since 2016, and there is an increase in schoolyard bullying and an unprecedented spike in hate crimes that continue to this day.


pangaia

(24,324 posts)
16. It is REPUBLICANS who are responsible for him still being in office.
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 03:15 PM
Jan 2018

They are traitors one and all.
THIS is what 'we' must pound into the heads of all Americans. Over and over and over... like fox and talk radio and... well last year CNN.... et al...

librechik

(30,678 posts)
21. Trump is a criminal.
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 04:28 PM
Jan 2018

sure that implies all kinds of unwellness, especially lying and abuse. But his main affect is as a successful family-based criminal, with all the dirty money and weird familial extortions that includes.

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