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CrispyQ
(36,573 posts)I hope Mueller's goal is to cut out all the rot, or we'll be back down this road again.
2naSalit
(86,978 posts)since the revelations of a stolen election came around, that the first three or four tiers of the admin and Congress are all complicit.
volstork
(5,404 posts)Why did mcconnell refuse to allow consideration of Merrick Garland? Because he knew the election was a foregone conclusion.
2naSalit
(86,978 posts)There needs to be a thorough housecleaning before we can move forward.
burrowowl
(17,656 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,912 posts)If the Dictator-In-Chief Donald Trump hasn't already blown a gasket with FIRE and FURY, he will surely blow when more indictments come down the pike. We had better have Mueller's back when this happens.
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)sayin'.
Irish_Dem
(48,123 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Not only will you get nothing for your dollar. You might find yourself in the cross hairs.
Double K&R for being a constructive post!
PatSeg
(47,773 posts)I'm sure a lot of wealthy donors are going to be holding on to their money for quite awhile.
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)doing it themselves.
Orrex
(63,295 posts)malaise
(269,336 posts)<snip>
A month before Donald Trump clinched the Republican nomination, one of his closest allies in Congress House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy made a politically explosive assertion in a private conversation on Capitol Hill with his fellow GOP leaders: that Trump could be the beneficiary of payments from Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Theres two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump, McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.
House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthys assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Alliance is tracking these trolls and not doing anything to stop them. It's obvious they want to uncover the entire network on the Russian and US sides. However, there are two things about this that bother me. The first is that social media doesn't have any safeguards. The second is that it hurts the credibility of the investigation. Now I can understand that Mueller might be using some of this information in building his case, so he would want to continued presence of the trolls. However, it is downright frightening to me that all of social media is still subject to Russian influence.
I want to imagine that Alliance is also feeding information to the FBI about those American targets of Russian trolling, but I can't be sure they have the resources to handle that. It's a very dangerous game we are playing when we don't know who or how many Americans are going to be triggered by trolling.
SamKnause
(13,114 posts)EVIL, FUCKING, LYING TRAITORS.
They are the most anti-American scum that I have ever seen !!!
They actually hate the American people that they are suppose to represent.
I return their hate 3 fold.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)moondust
(20,029 posts)against the Mueller investigation all across the GOP and its propaganda networks. The walls close in, the chorus gets louder.
eppur_se_muova
(36,317 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)C Moon
(12,227 posts)Ryan and McConnell being caught in this mess as well.
Maybe that's why they are so scared right now.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)This investigation has been ongoing for a lot longer than anyone knows, and they have been listening in for quite a while on them all that's involved. That's why trump freaked out claiming President Obama was wiretapping him, and his being so paranoid. I think they're letting them set themselves up, and gathering up everyone involved. Trump, Ryan, and McConnell are getting more desperate every day, shows they're scared too, and are liable to do anything to try and escape justice.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)This has been ongoing since Nixon was president. Ford's pardon enabled them to forward from that time and it is no surprise that Reagan arose from that SoCal cabal of corruption and restored criminality to the White House. Then Reagan's felons became Bushes appointees. Now they are back again. All the while the RNC is being corrupted by billionaire fascist money and ratfuckers have been running amok. Don't get me started on stealing elections and depriving people of their right to vote ......
getagrip_already
(14,989 posts)warm feelings toward the gop, as a lifelong member, hopefully he is over that.
The gop has smeared, insulted, and threatened to indict him personally. The gop has done the same with the very institution he headed. Sessions is weaponizing the DoJ and attacking political opponents on the most laughable grounds.
In short, everything a 70 year old man holds precious in this world has been attacked and damaged. If they were planning on turning his heart cold and angry towards them, they picked a perfect recipe.
Hopefully, he has had enough and won't just hang a bunch of fig leaves where amputation is required.
bucolic_frolic
(43,531 posts)Figure a handful "in the know" and pumping cash to others who knew what they were taking
Keep hoping Congress will be in session without 17-25 members who are in jail
What will be their status if out on bail?
Oh for the days of mild scandals like Wilbur Mills
How is the IC and LE community going to pull this off? Will it be hush-hush? Dozens told to retire, not seek re-election? Could we, would we, really launder our scandals in public for all the world to see?
I refer to Robert Ludlum's book "Apocalypse Watch", a wonderful read, where a worldwide fascist revival involved everyone imaginable. All told to retire, few mentions in the press. Ludlum was a genius.
Mr.Bill
(24,376 posts)has always been that we would look bad in the eyes of the world if we put our elected officials on trial.
I think we have now reached a threshold where we will look bad if we don't put them on trial.
Sadly, I also think a republican congress will do nothing no matter what Mueller comes up with on Trump.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Chiefly made by those in positions of power to cover themselves. Does anyone truly believe that the rest of the world doesn't read/watch the same news cycles as Americans, or that they're somehow impressed by the idea that people can commit crimes and then walk away scot free? If it happened in another country, would WE consider that a positive thing?
Efilroft Sul
(3,586 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)The investigation will come to a close. There will be a lengthy report. There will be more indictments, some of people we've never heard of before.
But I think people are getting carried away, expecting Mueller to save the day, like Mighty Mouse. In the real world that rarely happens. It takes a village, and his is one investigation headed by one person. There is no one in the opposition who seems to be on the investigation's side to even find the truth, whatever it is.
People like Trump tend to get away with things. That's how he's gotten as far as he has. People gather 'round people like that, hoping some of the power and money will spill over and bless them. Or they act in fear.
It's possible Trump will get an obstruction of justice charge. But the Republicans will vehemently disagree that the actions constitute obstruction. We've seen it. Trump may get a money laundering charge, but he can remain President, unless the Republicans impeach him, which won't happen. They'll line up behind him, as we've seen, calling the investigation a Democratic Party witch hunt.
The reason I think it is likely not to end in impeachment is because over time, as we've seen more damning evidence be discovered, more acts of obstruction that we originally knew about, the additional money laundering lurid stories, the indictments...as we've seen all this unfold, the Repubs haven't gotten more reasonable, more questioning of Trump, more critical of him. No, as all this has come down, they have become more supportive and complementary than ever. They are on tv saying things like they are "blessed" to have him as their leader, how lucky they are, and such.
It doesn't look good. Our only hope is for Mueller's investigation results to be very damning, AND the Democrats sweep the mid-terms. If there's time for that. I hope there is.
janterry
(4,429 posts)it will make the charges even harder. Something about 'everyone doing it' - it doesn't make it right, but from a right-wing propaganda perspective, (and to be fair, how many people view politics) people will just say this is how the game is played. Everyone is dirty.
Part of our hope is Mueller. But in the end, the American people have to be persuaded that this crime is worthy of impeachment (that's what finally got Nixon).
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)rainin
(3,011 posts)and under investigation already. Sessions was left at home because he's already cooperating with Mueller. Camp David was to figure out how to save themselves from Mueller.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Yuppers, they were hiding their secret agenda and lying their asses off as usual. The cover stories were so confused, first it was about financing the wall, ....
And they tried to turn it into a Trump ass-kissing contest as usual, staring Trump kissing his own ass.
Who wrote that script, a very stable genius?
cstanleytech
(26,364 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,798 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)I did quit following him, but only to keep my Twitter feed science dominated and less depressing.
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RealityChik
(382 posts)Dworkin was one of the earliest researchers connecting all the dots on the criminal ties to Russia, along with documents, archived videos, newspaper clippings and magazine articles as far back as the 1970's. You can always depend on Scott to back up his statements with supporting proof.
Without him, I'd never have discovered Adam Khan, Carolyn O, Louise Neu, Eric Garland, John Schindler, Joyce Faraone, Juliette Kayyem, Jay McKenthery, Renato Mariotti, Olga Lautman, Seth Abramson, Natasha Bertrand, Jay McKenzie, Claude Taylor, Thomas Pain, Wendy Siegelman, Mike Farb, Rick Wilson, and yes, EVEN Louise Mensch! Note this only a partial list...but it is ALL thanks to Scott Dworkin.
Without him, I'm not so sure there would even BE a "Russiagate" as we know it today.
So, perhaps I missed something that you saw that caused you to lose faith in Scott Dworkin?
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,919 posts)But it's enough to buy loyalty from a major U.S. Political Party. The Russians know how to project their national interests on a very modest budget. Hell 7.5 million might not even pay for a modern cruise missile.
Demtexan
(1,588 posts)Flynn is talking.
Who else is talking.
Charges might be ready to go just in case the republicans try something.
Bob knows what he is doing.