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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 02:48 PM Jan 2018

LOOK At What Happened To Siegleman If You Think Nothing Will Happen To The Clintons.

I realize that there is very little chance that the Clintons can be hurt by these investigations. But you have to consider what happened to Don Siegleman who did not break ANY law whatsoever and he spent years in prison and is still being silenced. He is a felon yet not a single syllable of a law was broken. And he did exactly what GOPPERS do every day.

They make stuff up. They collude. They connive. They conspire. etc etc.

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LOOK At What Happened To Siegleman If You Think Nothing Will Happen To The Clintons. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Jan 2018 OP
Why didn't Obama pardon him (his administration even argued for a longer sentence)? n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2018 #1
This always puzzled me. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #4
I agree 100%. It was certain wrong not to pardon him completely. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2018 #27
The GOP got one of ours. Wellstone ruled Jan 2018 #2
If he could "lock her up" his base would go crazy. CrispyQ Jan 2018 #3
I don't have a good feeling about what the GOP might do to Hillary. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #5
I don't have a good feeling about what the GOP might do to Hillary. LenaBaby61 Jan 2018 #6
Yes my thoughts as well. The "lock her up" crowd might pull it off. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #8
The GOP is literally trying to turn Hillary into a political prisoner! Initech Jan 2018 #9
Why? 1. Red meat to the base 2. Distract from GOP treason and corruption. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #14
Clintons are way more powerful than Siegenthaler gopiscrap Jan 2018 #7
They are investigating alleged quid pro quo agreements while HRC was SOS. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2018 #12
alleged quid pro quo agreements Justice Jan 2018 #24
You need a jury to put someone in the hoosegow. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2018 #10
I'm not convinced the Clintons will escape unscathed. no_hypocrisy Jan 2018 #11
My money is on the Clintons. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2018 #13
The judiciary is being corrupted every day by Trump. Jim__ Jan 2018 #15
You get to choose between a jury trial or a bench trial. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2018 #17
Sure. And the judge gets to make a lot of rulings - for instance, what evidence is admissible. Jim__ Jan 2018 #20
if you are gonna invoke someone in panic, at least spell their name right. (n/r) FreepFryer Jan 2018 #16
"People worry about all the wrong things." DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2018 #18
Lol. I worry about pessimistic fearmongering w/o any interest in solutions. FreepFryer Jan 2018 #21
"...Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. " DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2018 #23
So, apparently, is being full of beans. (n/t) FreepFryer Jan 2018 #25
What worries me obnoxiousdrunk Jan 2018 #29
And,....why didn't Pres. Obama pardon Siegleman? mudstump Jan 2018 #19
He is no longer being silenced. Albeit, all considered he seems to be quite silent. L. Coyote Jan 2018 #22
One of the travesties in modern poltics. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2018 #26
Look at what they did with Benghazi Jarqui Jan 2018 #28
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. The GOP got one of ours.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 02:55 PM
Jan 2018

Nixon payback,now they found they could do it,well here we go again. Notice the recent appointment in New York,can that be the start.

CrispyQ

(36,567 posts)
3. If he could "lock her up" his base would go crazy.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 03:05 PM
Jan 2018

They would forgive the tax cut reaming & the no-wall & the coming social safety net slashes.

LenaBaby61

(6,979 posts)
6. I don't have a good feeling about what the GOP might do to Hillary.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 03:20 PM
Jan 2018

WHOSE to stop these Mobsters in the White House running our government? It sure won't be the CON-gress whose complicit with everything tRump does. Whose to say that the Clinton's WON'T get the Don Siegelman treatment? The right-wing and their haters have been trying for 30 years, and NOW is the right time for them to pull it off since we have a Mobster installed in the White House who has henchmen (His cabinet/CON-gress), and lawlessness abound.

Irish_Dem

(48,086 posts)
8. Yes my thoughts as well. The "lock her up" crowd might pull it off.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 03:24 PM
Jan 2018

A dark day for this country indeed.

Initech

(100,149 posts)
9. The GOP is literally trying to turn Hillary into a political prisoner!
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 03:57 PM
Jan 2018

And for what? Their claims are bullshit. This is getting fucking scary.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
12. They are investigating alleged quid pro quo agreements while HRC was SOS.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 04:13 PM
Jan 2018

Last edited Sun Jan 7, 2018, 08:31 PM - Edit history (1)

The Clintons are way too smart to engage in that. And in any case the Statute of Limitations is five years. The five years will elapse on 1/20/2018.


Ditto for reopening the e-mail investigation.



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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
10. You need a jury to put someone in the hoosegow.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 04:07 PM
Jan 2018

The Clinton lawyers would make horse's asses out of the prosecutors if it ever got that far.


Plus, crimes are time limited . On 1/20/18 it will be five years since HRC was SOS which is where these apocryphal accusations emanate from.

no_hypocrisy

(46,312 posts)
11. I'm not convinced the Clintons will escape unscathed.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 04:11 PM
Jan 2018

This is not the Republican Party of Newt Gingrich going after Whitewater and Monica Lewinsky.

This is a vicious and relentless incantation of the Republican Party. They have the taste of blood in their mouth (Eliot Spitzer, Anthony Weiner, Al Franken, Jon Conyers, Don Siegelman). I wouldn't be surprised if they went after FDR after they finished with the Clintons.

They're insane and out of control.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
13. My money is on the Clintons.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 04:15 PM
Jan 2018

Where is this mythical trial going to be held ? Little Rock, DC (love the idea of a jury with ten or more African Americans on it) or NYC ?

Jim__

(14,096 posts)
15. The judiciary is being corrupted every day by Trump.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 05:37 PM
Jan 2018

Any trial before a Trump appointed judge will essentially be a political trial.

Jim__

(14,096 posts)
20. Sure. And the judge gets to make a lot of rulings - for instance, what evidence is admissible.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 05:52 PM
Jan 2018

And the judge gets to charge the jury.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
22. He is no longer being silenced. Albeit, all considered he seems to be quite silent.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 06:10 PM
Jan 2018

Maybe he gets no traction given how long ago he was robbed of his election and railroaded into jail.

Jarqui

(10,131 posts)
28. Look at what they did with Benghazi
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 09:24 PM
Jan 2018

They would love a Clinton Foundation under the media microscope side show going into the mid terms and demand at least equal media time as the Russia probe.

Benghazi and the emails did a lot of damage to Hillary as a candidate. Trump could not have won without that damage.

They can impeach Trump to save themselves saying "Impeaching Trump shows that we're the party to clean up Washington and now we're going to get Crooked Hillary".

These are ruthless people. They'll do anything to cling to power. Looking back at Nixon sabotaging the Vietnam peace talks, Reagan Iran hostages/contra, Willie Horton ad, swiftboating John Kerry, etc - this is what these GOP people do to get power.

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