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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSalaries have risen for high-skilled foreign workers in U.S. on H-1B visas
U.S. employers planned to pay high-skilled foreign workers with H-1B visas a median salary of $80,000 a year in fiscal year 2016, up from about $69,000 a decade earlier, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of new U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services data.
This is the first time the U.S. government has made salary information about H-1B applicants publicly available. Most H-1B applicants get approved for visas, so the data provide a window into the salaries of high-skilled foreign workers employed in the United States.
The 2016 median salary reported for H-1B visa applicants was higher than the median salary paid to some U.S. workers in similar high-skill occupations. For example, U.S. workers in computer and mathematical occupations had a median salary of $75,036 in fiscal 2016, a slight increase from 2007, when the median salary was $73,979 (adjusted to 2016 dollars), according to U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics data on all U.S. workers. The majority (60%) of all H-1B applicants from fiscal 2007 to 2016 were seeking employment in computer and mathematical occupations.
The H-1B visa program is the primary way employers in the U.S. hire high-skilled foreign workers. The program allows employers to hire foreigners to work for up to six years in jobs that require highly specialized knowledge, and workers employment may be extended if they have green card applications pending. To participate, employers first submit applications to the U.S. Department of Labor attesting that no U.S. citizen worker would be displaced by the prospective foreign worker. The application is then reviewed by USCIS before the State Department interviews the foreign worker and issues the visa.
It's from August. I just wanted DUers to see the salaries and think a little bit deeper about why companies want to hire foreign workers on visas instead of Americans. Maybe it's not to pay them less.
Turbineguy
(37,415 posts)that the GOP can transfer to the rich. This is the sweet spot for increased taxes under the new rules.
IronLionZion
(45,665 posts)It looks like many of these workers are getting more than many American workers.
Turbineguy
(37,415 posts)they don't take out later. They are in the income range that will see tax increases.
IronLionZion
(45,665 posts)They pay other taxes though
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)they are considered US residents for tax purposes including SS and medicare taxes that are automatically deducted from paychecks.
IronLionZion
(45,665 posts)I suppose this policy is in place to help fund these programs.
Fewer people want to come here on H-1b visas anymore since job prospects and wages have improved in many other countries.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)in math although their English of course was not good.
Why do American children in general have so much trouble with math?
Is it just the language?
My children learned elementary arithmetic by drill -- the old-fashioned way. Are American children not being taught math the right way?
IronLionZion
(45,665 posts)who believes it makes us weak and soft. They take pride in not knowing basic things. Look at the skills and knowledge of our president. There's a good chance he doesn't know how to read. Some people love this kind of stupidity and boast of it.
Education is associated with liberals, women, and apparently foreigners.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)I was paid the same as my US colleagues (and much less than the above figures - academia is not that high-paying).
I understand the frustration with some abuses of the H1-B program, but I am sometimes bothered by the way in which my fellow lefties dismiss the program, which is the most common way in which people immigrate to the US. Often people coming in on H1-B are in fields where there is a scarcity of qualified workers (my husband is an example of that), or we are international students who did our Ph.D.'s here (I'm an example of that). It is the first step towards a green card if you did not come in through marriage or by way of the diversity lottery.
When used to bring in underpaid workers to displace higher-paid American workers or depress wages, sure, I can see the problem. But the program as a whole is beneficial to the US, and a main avenue for legal immigration. All those people who are always telling undocumented immigrants to "get in the line" (of legal immigration) - THIS is the line.
IronLionZion
(45,665 posts)because Trump has made it much harder to get either one from H-1b.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)He really is bad news for a lot of people. A lot of people on H1-B's have been here for years, and have built lives here. We were here for years as students and then as foreign workers before we got our GC's, so our lives were very much here. I fear for people in that kind of situation who have not yet gotten their GC's.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)Rather than employees? I know all the H1B people I work with are getting paid double what those of us in similar positions are getting because they are contractors so they get more money in lieu of benefits.
IronLionZion
(45,665 posts)Getting rid of temporary workers saves more money than paying people less. They can keep a worker for a few months as needed and then get rid of them. Or get different workers with special skills or experience depending on their workload.
Contracting firms will send people all over America for a few months at a time. So the client companies can get someone from across the country to come work for a few months on a specific project and not pay a penny more.
Since we're never going to convince companies to go back to the old model of hiring internal employees for cost centers like IT, I'd like to see how many Americans are willing to live the H-1b life and see how long they last. This can be an idea for a new reality TV show. From what I've seen, most Americans quit in the first few months because they can't afford lease breakage and other expenses. Being a contractor is a hell of a lot more expensive than people think. Companies don't reimburse much. And it is a hardship to move every few months so most people just keep a house and family somewhere and use extended stay hotels at the work locations, which also very expensive.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)What the hell are some people thinking?
IronLionZion
(45,665 posts)IronLionZion
(45,665 posts)Don't these salaries look pretty sweet to some folks here? It's got to be tempting enough to be worth looking into, right?
When Trump gets rid of H-1bs, are the neglected and forgotten tech workers here going to apply for these jobs? Come join the dark side.
Seriously, I'd love to have some fellow Americans as coworkers.
X_Digger
(18,585 posts)Infosys, however, got a good amount per H1B. They hit the guys with applicant fees, processing fees, and management fees.
I've seen the direct deposit receipt. 20-25% less than the corresponding US worker.
Oh, and the hours they're expected to do? How about 60 hours minimum, hmm? And terrified to take a day off, always under threat to get sent home, because there were so many waiting in line behind them..
Yeah, no. Fucking bullshit. Of course companies lurvs them some H1B that they can treat like shit, work like a dog, and pay them peanuts, without fear of getting uppity. What's not to like?