candidate(s) may be...

The past 18 hours suggest we may already be moving in that very dysfunctional pattern.

I remember in 2008 wondering how the primary would affect Obama in the general election and as it turned out it didnt at all. Now that may have been due to the economy tanking, we'll never really know. But I think Democrats will be sick of trump enough that hopefully the "Bernie or bust" faction or whatever they may call themselves then will be minimal.

each other in the primaries. That's just stupid. Let the Repubs do that.

This is a forum for Democrats, just to remind people. I've never heard her once state that she was a Democrat.

now was that b/c he was running to be the first black President? Maybe

Oprah was all for him. President Obama was one of a kind candidate we will never find another.

So she is a rather horrible advocate for science and medicine. She supports anti-vaccination, alternative medicine, faith healing and fucking psychic surgery to cure cancer.

Vaccination, the number one medical advance in human history. There is no alternative medicine; there's only medicine, based on science. Faith healing and psychic surgery are scams. And there is no one cure for cancer, because cancer is not just one disease.

But Oprah's positions dispute all that.

I don't care who Oprah endorses as long as she otherwise stays out of politics.

My best to you.

"as long as she otherwise stays out of politics..."

It's a shame there's no political mechanism to choose one candidate out of many, thus illustrating our support for one and our dismissal of the rest.

If there were such a beast, I'd call it something like "primary," and it would allow numerous candidates to advertise their platform for the public.

But thank God we have absolute knowledge in all things Oprah, and deny that which is commercial aired holds any difference from our personal positions.

Any hope of support from me died with Jenny McCarthy, and the utter horror of Oprah's support of John of God. Also, there's the other so-called doctors, Phil and Oz, the latter who supports quackery.

Ignorance by her supporters of these things may be excusable. However, I will never excuse Oprah for such abject idiocy.

Some seem willing to excuse it because it helped make her rich, or popular on TV, or something. I have had responses today that actually argued so. My response is: Isn't this precisely what we are dealing with with the current White House resident?

To roughly paraphrase British humorist Peter Cook, "We've learned by our mistakes and we can repeat them exactly."

I find Oprah uniquely incurious, which is the best I can say about her.

But there was definitely a sub-set of voters who needed the rock star appeal in order to come out and vote.

When I think of what this country could have been under Gore, Kerry, or Hillary Clinton, I just want to cry. The only time my life improved in a significant manner was in the 1990s, when Bill Clinton was in office. I've never felt that we've been close to getting that back.

She was there in 2008, big time, but I don't recall her doing anything else for any Democrats. She certainly wasn't "all in" for Hillary at any point. I've never seen her speak on voter suppression (which seems like something she'd actually be good at tackling).

I'm not trying to hate on Oprah here, but it just boggles my mind that 1) people though her speech was so great; and 2) that they think she'd make a great President.

An additive that affects ability to reason. May as well return to the day of party bosses picking candidates.

Maybe democracy is too demanding a form of government. It takes time and energy to keep up with 3-levels of government.

If we had strong parties maybe we could get beyond the cult of personality and the strong man/savior search.

His wife (Kim Kardashian) does not.

Besides Kayne is probably the only other person who's ego competes with Trump. He refers to himself in the 3rd person.

She's everything that chumpy claims to be: a self-made billionaire, popular, charismatic, multi-talented, top of her field and got there without dirty deals with foreign enemies. That being said, she has no more political experience than orange boy did.

Kanye: nope. He's too much like chumpy.

I want an experienced, intelligent, capable, lifelong Democrat who understands our ideals and works for them.

It doesn't matter how much baggage our candidate has. rethugs will throw all sorts of shit at him or her that truth gets lost.

I only put Kanye in the title as an extreme example of someone I'd support over Trump since he famously said he was running for President in 2020 a couple years back.