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Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 07:53 PM Jan 2018

ABC, CBS and NBC finally went there. Extensive and negative and truthful coverage of the

nationwide concern for the fake President's mental stability, including current and historical evidence of same. NBC went so far as to quote Wolff about WH senior staff and cabinet discussing the 25th Amendment and how that would be triggered. Found it all refreshing.

Has the corporate media also had enough of the very unstable moron, corporate tax cuts in hand? Cross my fingers. Might have been worth it then.

Looking forward to the mandatory physical this Friday, maybe the WH physician could sneak in a few questions and personal observations regarding what all of America wants to know...WTF is up with this guy?

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ABC, CBS and NBC finally went there. Extensive and negative and truthful coverage of the (Original Post) Fred Sanders Jan 2018 OP
So NBC and the Mice found some courage? Vogon_Glory Jan 2018 #1
Hard to describe accurately, so would encourage to view for yourselves, but basically several Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #3
that's not a bad idea, actually renate Jan 2018 #5
But frighten the peasantry not fooled Jan 2018 #25
Courage or permission? Hortensis Jan 2018 #12
Two years to freaking late. marble falls Jan 2018 #2
Did they get tired of being called the enemy of the people? gratuitous Jan 2018 #4
Said Something Similar Yesterday ProfessorGAC Jan 2018 #36
here's the CBS story: renate Jan 2018 #6
btw, it says a psychological examination will not be part of his physical renate Jan 2018 #9
ABC said the same thing. But they did not mention that Obama released his full results Roland99 Jan 2018 #24
Mixed feelings about the crazy matt819 Jan 2018 #7
Yes, don't give him an easy "out" FakeNoose Jan 2018 #18
exactly that's where I think this path might lead gopiscrap Jan 2018 #23
Agree. +10000 MontanaMama Jan 2018 #51
Sorry, but these are the people who said it acted "presidential" when it was once able ProudLib72 Jan 2018 #8
Last week Fuckubee Sanders was asked by a legit journalist BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #10
Does the orange buffoon even do press scrums anymore? LiberalLovinLug Jan 2018 #15
I think the last one was in March 2017. BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #17
What a fucking coward LiberalLovinLug Jan 2018 #19
Cheeto made sure everybody kissed the ring FakeNoose Jan 2018 #20
Foxxx website...total Cone of Silence on Mueller and Wolff. Total blackout in Bubble world. Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #29
Yes, they usually revert to the emails or uranium Obama investigation, at times like these. I check Alice11111 Jan 2018 #50
They need to give him a mini cognitive assessment marylandblue Jan 2018 #11
Yep - my primary has included this every year since I hit 65 elfin Jan 2018 #53
mental tests pamdb Jan 2018 #13
If I'm not mistaken Chrysanthemum Jan 2018 #40
Part of the Medicare "wellness" physical. Mopar151 Jan 2018 #47
Kick and rec Kingofalldems Jan 2018 #14
He doesnt have to release the results. He could lie about it, alfredo Jan 2018 #16
They got theirs ... again. GeorgeGist Jan 2018 #21
K&R... spanone Jan 2018 #22
There is no mandatory physical for the president. n/t Ms. Toad Jan 2018 #26
I stand corrected. The annual physical has been by convention for the last 100 years. Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #28
Releasing tax returns was also a convention when running for president YessirAtsaFact Jan 2018 #44
It all depends. Do they make more $$ building him up or Luz Jan 2018 #27
K&R burrowowl Jan 2018 #30
Physical will not include a mental exam left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #31
Mental exams would be hard. Lots of people, categories, Alice11111 Jan 2018 #45
Sure, he's unstable and narcissistic and a creep, but mostly, he's just a prick. world wide wally Jan 2018 #32
The results were just released: tclambert Jan 2018 #33
I look forward to hearing a report that Trump is as healthy as Lincoln is. Girard442 Jan 2018 #35
Well, we know from Dr ?, who wrote the memo, while Dump Alice11111 Jan 2018 #46
Signed, Epstein's mother. louis-t Jan 2018 #57
What about the evil and radical right wing policies this 12 months of dementia has wrought upon us? bucolic_frolic Jan 2018 #34
will it include a rectal exam? Locrian Jan 2018 #37
at the point now for all media, even if trump drops dead today-nothing in USA Gov will change. Sunlei Jan 2018 #38
To be sure, tRump will be on his best behavior for this exam. Grammy23 Jan 2018 #39
I keep thinking Chrysanthemum Jan 2018 #41
Yep-- it's like all those other promises he's made.... dawg day Jan 2018 #52
The ability to be sneaky diminishes as brain dysfunction increases. shanny Jan 2018 #43
He will be coached, plus a RW doc, plus it won't happen. Alice11111 Jan 2018 #48
Best thing is for the mandatory physical to include shanny Jan 2018 #42
It's not a mandatory physical and it's never included an MRI brain scan onenote Jan 2018 #49
K&R red dog 1 Jan 2018 #54
Most of the major networks were cowardly till Michael Wolff blew the issue wide open with his book onetexan Jan 2018 #55
WHATEVER gets them going.... good BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #56
I've been a little heartened by a recent trend... Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #58
Too little too late. Damn them all. mountain grammy Jan 2018 #59
Day late and a dollar short Blue_Tires Jan 2018 #60

Vogon_Glory

(9,137 posts)
1. So NBC and the Mice found some courage?
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 07:57 PM
Jan 2018

I'm not surprised that NBC has found at least some small measure of courage, considering what I've heard on NBC cable, but I'm surprised that the timid souls of CBS and ABC have decided to follow suit? What happened? Did they forget to put on their chicken suits?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
3. Hard to describe accurately, so would encourage to view for yourselves, but basically several
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 08:06 PM
Jan 2018

minutes, as opposed to the usual 15 to 30 second neutral clips about the Unstable Moron, and fulsom enough for now details.

Although a News Special is needed on the topic. "Is President* Trump Mentally Fit for Office", which would make for a highly rated one hour.

not fooled

(5,805 posts)
25. But frighten the peasantry
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 09:07 PM
Jan 2018

Can't have that. Must maintain belief in the State.

Or so maintain the geniuses running the networks.


gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. Did they get tired of being called the enemy of the people?
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 08:09 PM
Jan 2018

This is a salutary development, even if it is many, many months late. I wonder if there was a precipitating event? Was it just the Wolff book, or is that just the latest in a series of occurrences that finally persuaded the popular media to criticize the commander in thief?

ProfessorGAC

(65,400 posts)
36. Said Something Similar Yesterday
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 11:04 AM
Jan 2018

Regarding CNN, i don't know why they wouldn't go on full attack mode. They're getting accused to being too negative, the supporters of "it" don't watch CNN anyway, so what do they have to lose.

Attitude should be "you want an enemy? you got one, bub!"

renate

(13,776 posts)
9. btw, it says a psychological examination will not be part of his physical
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 08:30 PM
Jan 2018

Hmm. I'd have thought it would be a pretty standard part of an exam for a man his age... interesting that it's been ruled out ahead of time.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
24. ABC said the same thing. But they did not mention that Obama released his full results
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 09:04 PM
Jan 2018

But did mention it was the same Dr that examined Bush and Obama.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
7. Mixed feelings about the crazy
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 08:24 PM
Jan 2018

I have little doubt that he’s crazy, however you want to define that. At the same time, I don’t want the crazy to eliminate the possibility of indictment, conviction, and jail time once he is no longer in office.

FakeNoose

(32,899 posts)
18. Yes, don't give him an easy "out"
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 08:54 PM
Jan 2018

He's going to own this, and so is his family and everyone who enables him.


gopiscrap

(23,768 posts)
23. exactly that's where I think this path might lead
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 09:00 PM
Jan 2018

guilty by reason of insanity or mental defect his sycophant deplorables would go ape shit if we picked on poor little donnie at that point

MontanaMama

(23,367 posts)
51. Agree. +10000
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 05:00 PM
Jan 2018

Been saying that forever. Seems like the crazy has been trotted out quite often lately...it’s not an accident IMO. We are being prepped for a graceful exit. I want the Dotard and his family hung out to freaking dry.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
8. Sorry, but these are the people who said it acted "presidential" when it was once able
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 08:30 PM
Jan 2018

to refrain from farting. Now they are acting "journalistic"? Yeah, this will last no more than a day.

BigmanPigman

(51,653 posts)
10. Last week Fuckubee Sanders was asked by a legit journalist
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 08:32 PM
Jan 2018

for 30 years if a psychiatric examination would be included in the physical and would the results be made available to the public. She answered/lies that he would "have to ask the president that question himself". More BS.

The 25th will never be used, His cabinet kisses his ass and his ring. Same with the current GOP Congress. This is why we have to do everything possible to win the midterms.
I read a good article about this. It is long but worth the read.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-madness-of-donald-trump-removal-25th-amendment-w504149

BigmanPigman

(51,653 posts)
17. I think the last one was in March 2017.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 08:51 PM
Jan 2018

He sent a video to the last presser even though he was 2 feet away in the next room practically.

He only does Hannity and with the questions provided ahead of time. Hope Hicks is in charge of this.

FakeNoose

(32,899 posts)
20. Cheeto made sure everybody kissed the ring
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 08:57 PM
Jan 2018

... before they even got their jobs. But Mueller will come through for us, don't worry!

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
50. Yes, they usually revert to the emails or uranium Obama investigation, at times like these. I check
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:51 PM
Jan 2018

occasionally. It doesn't matter if every credible news media in the world is covering a story, Fox defaults to crooked Hillary and Obama. It makes it really hard to change those viewers, when they insolate themselves from the facts.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
53. Yep - my primary has included this every year since I hit 65
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 05:45 PM
Jan 2018

I think it is on some kind of standard checklist for the "wellness" annual.

I asked him if anyone had failed it and he said yes, and really hard if it is with someone he has known for years. Usually it is with the clock question. Apparently it asks for both left and right brain stuff in a very simple way.

Someday they will have to change that part when people no longer use analog at all. My granddaughter can, but very few clocks do in her world anymore.

pamdb

(1,333 posts)
13. mental tests
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 08:37 PM
Jan 2018

There are some simple mental tests that could almost be given during the exam. Asking someone to repeat numbers back after a few minutes. Asking a patient to repeat words back in a certain order, that sort of thing.

Chrysanthemum

(188 posts)
40. If I'm not mistaken
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 01:08 PM
Jan 2018

...that comes under the heading of a "neurological" exam. The doc could phrase it that way.

Mopar151

(10,009 posts)
47. Part of the Medicare "wellness" physical.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:45 PM
Jan 2018

There you go - Nothing exceptional, just what everyone else has to do.

alfredo

(60,082 posts)
16. He doesnt have to release the results. He could lie about it,
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 08:51 PM
Jan 2018

and the doctor can’t refute him without breaching doctor/patient confidentiality

Luz

(772 posts)
27. It all depends. Do they make more $$ building him up or
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 09:11 PM
Jan 2018

tearing him down? As far as I can tell, that's become the major function of the main news these days. Making money.
That's why they promoted him, and thats why they'll tear him down.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
45. Mental exams would be hard. Lots of people, categories,
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:32 PM
Jan 2018

spike in the sociopathic deviant scale. For example, lawyers, psychologists, people who grew up in the projects, AAs...in other words, street savvy people, who tend to distrust authority. Most people who have had much experience, or experiences, with authority figures have a healthy distrust. Most politicians are pretty savvy.

It would be hard to tease out some of the craziness, but maybe the paranoia, and delusions of grandeur would show. My bet is the average Joe Blow who voted for Trump kind of liked his delusions of grandeur...it flies in the face of Dem wonky fact checkers.

world wide wally

(21,760 posts)
32. Sure, he's unstable and narcissistic and a creep, but mostly, he's just a prick.
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 10:16 PM
Jan 2018

He always has been one and always will be a prick.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
33. The results were just released:
Mon Jan 8, 2018, 10:19 PM
Jan 2018

"The President, Donald J. Trump, is in the most fantastic health. Really remarkable. The best health of any President in recent history, or really, any history, including Abraham Lincoln, by the way. And his hands are very large, very large. So there's no problem there, or elsewhere, believe me.

Signed, My Doctor"

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
46. Well, we know from Dr ?, who wrote the memo, while Dump
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:36 PM
Jan 2018

and team waited in the car, that he is the healthiest ever.
The Trumpsters cracked up w laughter. There isn't much that can alienate that base. The more offensive something is to the fact based Dems or libs, the more they love it.

bucolic_frolic

(43,489 posts)
34. What about the evil and radical right wing policies this 12 months of dementia has wrought upon us?
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 09:48 AM
Jan 2018

He stole the election and has destroyed just about everything

NOW, they''re worried about his mental state.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
37. will it include a rectal exam?
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 11:38 AM
Jan 2018

You know - head up his ass....

I think the medical term "Cranial Rectum Inversion". I'm sure there's a code for it...

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
38. at the point now for all media, even if trump drops dead today-nothing in USA Gov will change.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 11:57 AM
Jan 2018

will still be 2 & 7/10s more years of RW agenda in WH.

Grammy23

(5,815 posts)
39. To be sure, tRump will be on his best behavior for this exam.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 11:59 AM
Jan 2018

He knows the doctor can make SOME evaluation about his mental status by how he responds to normal questions he could be asked during the exam. Answers regarding how he feels (in general), any new problems or pain, etc. could be clues to his mental acuity, his hearing and ability to focus. Yes, a full mental examination would be ideal, but a good doctor would be able to slip in questions that could be similar to a mini mental.

tRump is a well practiced narcissist who may also have other personality issues (disorders) complicating his mental profile. He can charm the birds out of the trees when it suits his purpose. I find his so-called charming side to be off putting and phony, but it passes for normal in many situations. So you can bet that he will be on his best behavior with the doctor, he will co-operate and do as he is asked. I expect no great revelations from this examination other than to confirm what we already know. He is overweight and pudgy in places that are not healthy. His diet is atrocious and he is not likely to give up his beautiful chocolate cake and two scoops of his favorite ice cream. And no, the doctor won’t tell us that tRump should be removed from office for mental health reasons. tRump is a sneaky bastard and knows he needs to behave for this exam. Expect no surprises or great revelations, that is IF we ever get any of the details regarding Dear Leader’s Health.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
52. Yep-- it's like all those other promises he's made....
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 05:24 PM
Jan 2018

like releasing his returns, Melania doing a press conference, etc.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
43. The ability to be sneaky diminishes as brain dysfunction increases.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 01:27 PM
Jan 2018

It'd be apparent to everyone except trump and the trumpettes.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
48. He will be coached, plus a RW doc, plus it won't happen.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:46 PM
Jan 2018

If the Repubs really want to get rid of him, maybe. That's why we have the 25th Amendment, and it doesn't require an exam. Anyway, much of his cabinet said just yesterday, he is up to the job. That includes Tillerson, so just because he is a "Fucking moron," he is not disqualified, according to Tillerson.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
42. Best thing is for the mandatory physical to include
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 01:25 PM
Jan 2018

an MRI brain scan. Only way to diagnose Alzheimer's ifaik. Also not a "psychological" exam/finding which of course the cons would dispute.

onenote

(42,831 posts)
49. It's not a mandatory physical and it's never included an MRI brain scan
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:51 PM
Jan 2018

and it isn't going to now.

The 25th amendment "solution" is a pipe dream.


onetexan

(13,080 posts)
55. Most of the major networks were cowardly till Michael Wolff blew the issue wide open with his book
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 06:06 PM
Jan 2018

remember they had treated idiot 45 like a celebrity whilst he was disparaging them throughout the campaign, and much more vehemently till now.

Wounded Bear

(58,777 posts)
58. I've been a little heartened by a recent trend...
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 06:28 PM
Jan 2018

Talking heads on MSNBC have been using the term "RW Media." Nice to see them admit what has been really happening on Fox, et al.

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