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https://politicalwire.com/2018/01/09/gop-disappearing-new-york/The GOP Is Disappearing In New York
January 9, 2018 at 7:16 am EST
By Taegan Goddard
Politico: Two potential candidates for New York governor against incumbent Andrew Cuomo have dropped out in the past week. No candidate against Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand has gotten beyond the whisper phase. Theres still no challenger to the state attorney general or comptroller. In President Donald Trumps home state, the New York Republican Party is on the verge of disaster. It has so far come up dry in its efforts to put together a top-tier 2018 statewide ticket a budding failure with implications that could ripple beyond state borders.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,398 posts)because the city rejected him by 60 some-odd points, and he lost his home borough of Manhattan by 76 points. Hurt feewings. So he hits back with a tax bill that takes money out of the pockets of those who rejected him, and goodbye to the Republican Party in New York.
bucolic_frolic
(43,538 posts)crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)redwitch
(14,954 posts)Elise Stefanik has to go! This New Yorker from the 21st is going to help make it happen!
edhopper
(33,667 posts)But still plenty of GOP seats around the State. The State Senate still has a slight Repug lead.
Let me know when Peter King loses his seat, or Staten Island votes for a Democrat.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)don't have to limit themselves to presidential runs.
I don't see any of them as a back bencher.
We don't have any John Quincy Adams any more.
great idea to have Oprah run against an incumbent senator in a red state - she has instant name recognition and the money to support her own candidacy. The Clintons have been residents of NY for years now, so they might get accused of carpet bagging if they move again.
George Clooney was born in Kentucky - challenge Rand Paul or Mitch McConnell
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)all USA citizens desperately need/want for them & their children.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)I'm hearing from a lot of people that would normally vote republican who are getting creamed with the new rules on property tax. Peter King represents a very wealthy county which has sky high property taxes - these people are NOT happy.
edhopper
(33,667 posts)he has not had a genuine challenger in a long time.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)another high property tax county. While my southern Westchester district is distinctly blue (Nita Lowey), the one right above us is truly purple - back and forth every few years. That part of Westchester is getting murdered in the new tax laws - that will be the ONLY issue on the table in 2018.
the Dems are smart about it.
A big If.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)The tax law probably sealed his fate.
I was born and raised in central Westchester (NY-17).
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)They redrew the lines several years ago. I've been voting for her since Ben Gilman (the last republican I ever voted for - my sister interned for him and he was pro choice, pro environment, pro gun control) retired.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)I believe the border is Mt. Kisco. I know Bedford is Sean Patrick Maloney's district.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)The RePutins will rue the day they passed that turd.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)definitely. Just saw another con "retiring" in CA rather than run on the tax cut monstrosity. Suburban district in CA.
MiniMe
(21,724 posts)Have a friend on Long Island who is visiting me now, and she said that she won't discuss politics up there, and those that bring it up are tRump supporters. I think upstate is the same thing.
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)edhopper
(33,667 posts)has plenty of Trumpers.
Peter King is from Hempstead.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)edhopper
(33,667 posts)they elect a corrupt County Exec. And eventually the corruption and mismanagement is so bad they are forced to vote Dem.
An election or two later, they come home to the Repukes.
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)Cornwall On Hudson
Here is a picture from my front window. That ugly beige/tan building that you can barely see through the trees just above those traffic signs is the military school trump went to. I live about 250 feet from the military schools property.
Thats a nice reminder to wake up to every day!!!
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FakeNoose
(32,917 posts)The military school should pay for it too.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Even my own 27th. Chris shitstain Collins.
pressbox69
(2,252 posts)Not just New York.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)of the NY state legislature, the GOP is far from having disappeared in New York. Don't some "fake" Dems caucus with Republicans to give them the senate majority?
cannabis_flower
(3,769 posts)It would disappear in Texas.
barbtries
(28,824 posts)they've about ruined this state.
barbtries
(28,824 posts)of what's about to happen all across the land. #BlueWave2018
vi5
(13,305 posts)I'm not sure why more people don't know about this. There were more people elected literally as Democrats but because a group of "Independent Democrats" caucus with Republicans, it throws control of the state Senate to the GOP.
But yeah, everybody...."support Democrats always!"
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)because that's what people like them in their area do to get elected. It's always been this way, although every election in this polarized era sees a few more switch label.
Hard as it is to believe, the GOP still has some left-wing voters who register Republican but vote left.
Mislabeling in politics is extremely common and extremely commonly used to deceive. To understand, we always have to look beyond labels to behaviors.
vi5
(13,305 posts)I agree, but many on here do not. They prefer labels above all else.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)if they're all anyone knows. Because that's how they're used.
PatrickforO
(14,608 posts)They'll come up with someone, though.
marble falls
(57,600 posts)Gothmog
(146,005 posts)This will be fun to watch
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)Trying to convince my family to retire there, but it was voted the 2nd most expensive state to live after Hawaii.
I hate that Republican states are the only affordable ones.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,913 posts)But are expensive just the same. They Sales Tax everything from food in the Grocery Stores, Clothing, and Medicines in some states. They have cut taxes so drastically, they have their hands out for Federal monies for Infrastructure, Education, and basic Government services, etc.
Look at the state of Kansas, for example. Sam Brownback used Kansas as the Great Conservative Experiment. He had taxes cut for the rich that Kansas went bankrupt. He was re-elected despite it all. Schools had to close a month before the rest of the Nation because there was no money in order to pay teachers. Pensions were raided. Right To Work laws implemented crippling Unions. Minimum Wage set at the Federal Levels. Sales Taxes raised on everything from basic services like Oil Changes to food in Grocery stores. Kansas was and still is a MESS.
When people travel to Florida, Arizona, Texas, and states where there is no State Income taxes, they get your money in the way of regressive Sales and Property Taxes, and still have their hands out for Federal monies because their budgets run short. Also, the quality of life and basic standards are lower. You get what you pay for.
Minnesota is a high taxed state, but we have a higher quality and standard of life here, and rank 3rd in the Nation for Business climate and low Unemployment than the states that border it.
George II
(67,782 posts)OliverQ
(3,363 posts)Are there any areas near mountains that are reasonable for retirees?
George II
(67,782 posts)....a progressive tax. If you have household income of 75,000 you'd only pay $3,100 - 4%.
State Sales Tax is about 8.5%. Believe it or not, these states have a higher sales tax:
Arkansas
Alabama
Louisiana
Tennessee
Outside the NYC area I think property tax is lower, too.
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)Most counties seem to be around 2% property tax.
George II
(67,782 posts)and Rochester is a whopping 3.3%! That's even higher than Long Island.
Here's a site where you can find the rate for every town in NYS.
https://smartasset.com/taxes/new-york-property-tax-calculator#ojPjGdLRNv
BTW, in New York City the property tax is only 0.8%, but property values are much higher than anywhere else in the state, which is why it's so expensive to live there (among other reasons)
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)0.70% so it's more than double in New York even in the lower areas lol.
George II
(67,782 posts)...I remind him that you get what you pay for. Even something as simple as trash pickup - that's included in our taxes, as is the school system, fire department, police department, road maintenance, etc. He shakes his head and says, "didn't think of that"
What it comes down to is what people want and how much they're willing to pay.
BTW, different states have different criteria for property taxes - here we pay a certain rate based on 70% of the assessed value of our houses. Some towns charge based on 100% and, unfortunately some towns, rather than raise the tax "rate", raise the assessed value of property.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,913 posts)Overall, despite safe gerrymandered Districts in Southern States, the GOP is becoming more regionalized. Even Texas, New Mexico, Iowa, and in the Mid West, there are numbers of Democrats making their presence and voices known. Candidates are coming forth to challenge Republicans because they see what is going on in Washington, D.C.
Take the GOP Agenda for example...... Who wants to say to voters, "I approve of TAKING AWAY Health Care, Medicare, and Social Security"? "I approve Tax Cuts for the Rich, while screwing over the Middle Class"? "I approve deportation of the Dreamers, though they are law abiding and work hard"? "I approve of making Voting harder than easier"? "I approve the selling off of Public lands and National Parks for Oil and Gas exploitation"? "I approve deregulation of everything, but REGULATE a woman's body"? "I approve of NO MUSLIMS or other non-Americans from entering the country"?
That is what it is boiling down to, folks. Having to support an UNPOPULAR president and a GOP agenda that makes the Rich richer and the rest of us......SCREWED. Rise up, Resist, and VOTE!!!
dalton99a
(81,708 posts)FakeNoose
(32,917 posts)... but he doesn't act like a Democrat too much. To most of us he looks and acts very GOP-ish.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)you're talking about but how many republicans are pro choice? Pro environment? Pro gun control? Pro safety nets? would outlaw fracking? Sign a same sex marriage bill?
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)never conducted a single investigation of Wall Street despite being Attorney General during the financial crisis. Cuomo is what they use to call a Rockefeller Republican, Liberal on social issues but very conservative on fiscal ones.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)left - pretending there are is completely dishonest. NOT ONE republican elected today would be all those things I pointed out. Not one.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)Which is I said "what they use to call". But if they still existed, Cuomo would be one of them.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)To most of us he looks and acts very GOP-ish - and I rightly pointed out there is nothing in today's GOP that resembles Andrew Cuomo.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)Someone else posted that. Get your facts straight next time.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)Same sex marriage? Raising the minimum wage?
George II
(67,782 posts)Initech
(100,151 posts)phylny
(8,397 posts)IIIIII Love New Yooooooooork!