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packman

(16,296 posts)
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 02:11 PM Jan 2018

Most polite "F--K You" letter written by former slave to former master

After the Civil War, a plantation owner - Colonel Anderson- pleaded for his freed slave to return to help bring in the crop. Financial ruin lay ahead if the fields weren't harvested. Below is the letter Jordan Anderson wrote back from his home in Ohio to his former master:






Colonel Anderson, having failed to attract his former slaves back, sold the land for a pittance to try to get out of debt. Two years later he was dead at the age of 44. Prior to 2006, historian Raymond Winbush tracked down the living relatives of the Colonel in Big Spring, reporting that they "are still angry at Jordan for not coming back," knowing that the plantation was in serious disrepair after the war

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Most polite "F--K You" letter written by former slave to former master (Original Post) packman Jan 2018 OP
That's great janterry Jan 2018 #1
"Surely there will be a day of reckoning for those who defraud the laborer of his hire." brush Jan 2018 #2
Reminded me of Sironichow Jan 2018 #13
+1000 dchill Jan 2018 #18
+++! And welcome to DU eleny Jan 2018 #19
Where did you find this? Lint Head Jan 2018 #3
it's been around for a long time burnbaby Jan 2018 #4
Yeah, pretty obvious to me it's written much later but trying to sound old-timey ... mr_lebowski Jan 2018 #7
Proportional type? Hello? erronis Jan 2018 #9
I've seen it before but have no idea it's false. How do you know that? brush Jan 2018 #14
how do you know it's factual? nt burnbaby Jan 2018 #15
Well, farther down in this thread, there's a link from the Smithsonian with.. brush Jan 2018 #16
NOPE - Appeared originally in New York paper August 22, 1865 packman Jan 2018 #25
+1 dalton99a Jan 2018 #32
That's wrong oberliner Jan 2018 #38
Thanks for clarifying - but my post was a reply to the doubt cast packman Jan 2018 #44
Are we not men? Marty Marzipan Jan 2018 #6
We are DEVO geardaddy Jan 2018 #10
I would like to know that too. salin Jan 2018 #12
Wow orangecrush Jan 2018 #5
A bit more info ciao_bella Jan 2018 #8
So powerful! lucca18 Jan 2018 #11
Smithsonian has it, maybe it's real IronLionZion Jan 2018 #17
In his time, critics attacked the veracity of... NNadir Jan 2018 #21
Same attitude, unfortunately, of some here who insinuate that a black man could not have written it brush Jan 2018 #34
Yes, unfortunately I see that. NNadir Jan 2018 #39
If you read the orginal 1865 article it was dictated roomtomove Jan 2018 #29
The Smithsonian has it and says noting about it being dictated brush Jan 2018 #33
It was dictated to Valentine Winters oberliner Jan 2018 #37
Wow.. thank you, ILZ.. Cha Jan 2018 #35
i KNOW i have read that letter before, not sure where. pansypoo53219 Jan 2018 #20
This is one of the best letters I have ever seen! mcar Jan 2018 #22
I know, right! Cha Jan 2018 #36
Indeed a great letter. I recall reading it a couple of years ago. iluvtennis Jan 2018 #23
"Recompense" ... Reparations ! Raggaemon Jan 2018 #24
That book is an excellent read. nt irisblue Jan 2018 #30
$11,000 was an incredible amount of money in 1865 bucolic_frolic Jan 2018 #26
Wow. Just wow. What a fine man Mr Jourdon Anderson was. Just wow. MLAA Jan 2018 #27
Wow. PatrickforO Jan 2018 #28
spell check in 1875? Impressive! lol TalenaGor Jan 2018 #31
Spell check??? Please clearify - what are you referring to? packman Jan 2018 #45
little green squiggly line under 'has' towards the end TalenaGor Jan 2018 #48
does my heart heaven05 Jan 2018 #40
+10000000 nt steve2470 Jan 2018 #42
That is a really wonderful letter and... steve2470 Jan 2018 #41
Mmhhmm lsewpershad Jan 2018 #43
Here's his entry from Findagrave.com Momgonepostal Jan 2018 #46
Brings tears to my eyes. The injustice and suffering of that disgraceful Enoki33 Jan 2018 #47

brush

(53,977 posts)
2. "Surely there will be a day of reckoning for those who defraud the laborer of his hire."
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 02:30 PM
Jan 2018

Hmmmm! Reparations, anyone?

Sironichow

(12 posts)
13. Reminded me of
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 03:40 PM
Jan 2018

How about the thousands of former employees to whom Trump owes back wages? I bet some of them have a story to tell.

 

burnbaby

(685 posts)
4. it's been around for a long time
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 02:43 PM
Jan 2018

I think someone found it to be false do to the language or something like that

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
7. Yeah, pretty obvious to me it's written much later but trying to sound old-timey ...
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 03:12 PM
Jan 2018

Still ... I like it.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
25. NOPE - Appeared originally in New York paper August 22, 1865
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 08:37 PM
Jan 2018

Original paper in Library of Congress-

Link: (Second news column on left--

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030213/1865-08-22/ed-1/seq-7/

and--

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
38. That's wrong
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 07:43 AM
Jan 2018

The original source was the Cincinnati Commercial - the New York Daily Tribune reprinted it thereafter.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
44. Thanks for clarifying - but my post was a reply to the doubt cast
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 12:36 PM
Jan 2018

on its authenticity - which some seem to be challenging . Regardless of its original source, the letter stands as being published in the postbellum period by Anderson's freed slave.

NNadir

(33,586 posts)
21. In his time, critics attacked the veracity of...
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 04:43 PM
Jan 2018

Last edited Thu Jan 11, 2018, 10:07 AM - Edit history (1)

Frederick Douglass' writings on the grounds that it was in their minds that "a son of Africa" as they put it on the rare occasion they were wontto be so polite could be smarter and more eloquent than they were themselves.

This is the same attitude of Mitch McConnell, who strongly resented that Barack Obama was smarter and more accomplished than he is or ever will be.

brush

(53,977 posts)
34. Same attitude, unfortunately, of some here who insinuate that a black man could not have written it
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 03:29 AM
Jan 2018

Last edited Thu Jan 11, 2018, 03:05 PM - Edit history (1)

even though this was the time of Frederick Douglass, a most eloquent writer and speaker.

NNadir

(33,586 posts)
39. Yes, unfortunately I see that.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 10:18 AM
Jan 2018

As a child - an extremely intelligent child - Douglass understood the power of the written word and the reason that it was illegal for slaves to obtain that power.

Against great odds he managed to obtain it anyway.

This much is detailed in his remarkable autobiography, both the original and the updated version.

Three people defined the outcome of the Civil War, Lincoln in the political sphere, Grant in the military sphere, and equally important, Douglass in the moral sphere, with fortuitous overlaps among the three of them.

Remarkable human beings, all three.

roomtomove

(217 posts)
29. If you read the orginal 1865 article it was dictated
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 12:33 AM
Jan 2018

by Jordan, who we can assume was illiterate as many slaves were, so the language was not his but the concepts and ideas were.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
37. It was dictated to Valentine Winters
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 07:03 AM
Jan 2018

Who most likely also collaborated in writing it.


Jordan Anderson's collaborator -- to whom he reportedly dictated the letter -- was a Dayton banker named Valentine Winters. An abolitionist who once hosted Abraham Lincoln at his mansion, Mr. Winters regarded the letter as excellent propaganda, according to Mr. Finkenbine. It was originally published in August, 1865, by the Cincinnati Commercial, a paper with Republican leanings.

http://www.toledoblade.com/State/2012/07/15/Story-behind-letter-taunting-former-master-pieced-together.html

Raggaemon

(68 posts)
24. "Recompense" ... Reparations !
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 05:02 PM
Jan 2018

In her best selling book, The Warmth of Other Suns, Isabell Wilkerson chronicles in great detail the lives of three people who were part of the Great Black Migration, when increasing numbers of black folks began fleeing the South in search of better opportunities elsewhere, the period started at the end of WWI and ended in the early 1970's, my family was part of that migration.

The book cites newspaper articles published in newspapers around the South where they signaled deep concerns about the shrinking of the black labor force, largely doing back-breaking, low waged agricultural field labor, not knowing any better it could be easy to think the articles were written during slavery ... where did all the darkies go, don't they know master can't sell his crops without them here working?

bucolic_frolic

(43,490 posts)
26. $11,000 was an incredible amount of money in 1865
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 09:50 PM
Jan 2018

Farms with 20 acres and a house sometimes went for $500.

PatrickforO

(14,604 posts)
28. Wow.
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 11:42 PM
Jan 2018

Brilliant letter. It made me think of Michelle Obama's comment that every day when she awakened in the White House, she thought about how it had been built by slaves, and then Bill O'Reilly commenting that those particular slaves were 'well fed.'

They were slaves. That's the point. They did not have their freedom, had to work in bondage under brutal conditions, and were not even considered human. There's nothing good about that, and any relationship a white slave owner might have thought they had with a slave cannot be thought of as a reciprocal relationship. The idea that this guy though his ex-slave should have felt any responsibility whatever for a plantation he was forced to work on in bondage shows a profound ignorance and moral blindness.

Thanks for sharing this. I'm going to forward to some friends in hope that more people might be able to see this letter.

TalenaGor

(1,104 posts)
48. little green squiggly line under 'has' towards the end
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 02:59 PM
Jan 2018

Maybe there's some other explanation I dunno....

Love the letter either way but that struck me as odd

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
40. does my heart
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 10:26 AM
Jan 2018

Good to see one of the 'superior' race put in his place by a member of the alleged 'inferior' race and by pen. Amazing. If through boy potus, his deplorables, Ryan, McConnell et al; have their way with Medicaid, Medicare, my social security and vet benefits gained from being poisoned in a very unpopular war, there will be many letters such as this when they come begging for help in needing bodies to sacrifice in a war started to save the administration of the turd-in-chief....I so love this response to that goddamn slave owner...I am glad their family ended up penniless.....

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
41. That is a really wonderful letter and...
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 10:52 AM
Jan 2018

his relatives were STILL pissed at him almost 150 years later (almost 8 generations)?! Talk about a really evil stupid grudge.

Enoki33

(1,589 posts)
47. Brings tears to my eyes. The injustice and suffering of that disgraceful
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 01:04 PM
Jan 2018

era, though removed by law, has since been selectively codified for use on the vulnerable by present day political demagogues who find it expedient to pollute their nation in their quest for money, power and control of the levers that govern modern society. Make no mistake, the stigma of slavery is not far beneath the surface of today. Watch Fox for a few minutes, or tune into one of the 1500 GOP entitled stations if you can stomach it. They are a monumental megaphone besmirching the search for true social justice.

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