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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDon't fall for this trap - it was PEOPLE from shithole countries
Trump's comment wasn't directly about "countries", it was about "people".
In the noun phrase "people from shithole countries", the primary noun is "people". The "from shithole countries" is simply a modifying phrase. As offensive a modifier as that may have been on a standalone basis, it was used to describe PEOPLE.
There are those attempting to explain it away along the lines of "Oh, come on, conditions are bad in Haiti, and one might refer to it as a 'shithole'" miss the point. Have you ever referred to someplace as a "shithole"? Well, it's a recognizable term. SNL once used it during a parody of Joe Biden's somewhat repetitive use of the "tough times in Scranton growing up" stories.
Of course, the president of the US should not denigrate any country (or at least one with which we are not at war).
But this is not some casual reference to general conditions somewhere. This was a statement about PEOPLE.
The larger phrase is about PEOPLE, and the apparent suggestion that the national origin of a person is some sort of measure of worth or value of that person.
The context was not a discussion of "Hey, Donald do you want to go live in Haiti?" The context was a discussion about people seeking to live in the United States.
JohnnyLib2
(11,212 posts)That reminder and emphasis is much needed.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)DT and the WH want it known that he said this. no dog whistle,it is red meat for the base. They are proud he said it
Orange Free State
(611 posts)Of some of the housekeeping staff at Mar-a-lago. Bet there are a few Haitians there.
MontanaMama
(23,367 posts)Spot on...thank you for this.
bullwinkle428
(20,631 posts)country" recently, NOT in reference to the people, but specifically with regards to the incredible corruption that has dominated that nation for generations, going back to the czarist era. My father's side of the family came from Russia back in the late 19th century, and I would be remiss if I didn't reference the anti-Semitism that almost undoubtedly helped to drive that decision to leave.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Right. That's the trap.
This was not about moving there and, indeed, was a conversation about people seeking to leave those countries and live in this one anyway.
This was a statement about people and their worth as human beings.
TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Hasnt Assface described parts of his own country as shitholes, or worse?
He is a straight-up racist!