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TygrBright

(20,780 posts)
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:24 PM Jan 2018

Watch Chris Matthews Joke About His Bill Cosby Pill Before Interviewing Hillary Clinton

On January 5, 2016, MSNBC Hardball host Chris Matthews interviewed Hillary Clinton in an Iowa fire station during the Democratic primary season. Network footage obtained by the Cut shows Matthews, during the interview setup, making a couple of “jokes” about Clinton. He asks, “Can I have some of the queen’s waters? Precious waters?” And then, as he waits for the water, he adds, “Where’s that Bill Cosby pill I brought with me?” Matthews then laughs, delighted with the line, for an extended moment, as the staffers around him react with disbelief, clearly uncomfortable. (Cosby has been accused of sexual impropriety by dozens of women, some of whom allege that they were drugged and raped by the comedian.)


Full article with video: https://www.thecut.com/2018/01/chris-matthews-bill-cosby-pill-hillary-clinton-interview.html?utm_source=nym_press

In case anyone was still wondering whether Tweety is a sleazetoad.

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Watch Chris Matthews Joke About His Bill Cosby Pill Before Interviewing Hillary Clinton (Original Post) TygrBright Jan 2018 OP
Why is he still on tv? DURHAM D Jan 2018 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Jan 2018 #18
He voted for bush, so that says everything as far as I am concerned, and he used to fawn over still_one Jan 2018 #2
Speechless. Boomerproud Jan 2018 #3
I know. I know. LisaM Jan 2018 #5
nothing Skittles Jan 2018 #19
He is a sexist nut dsc Jan 2018 #4
Sick. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #6
He needs to go. onecaliberal Jan 2018 #7
He is disgusting and a Bush toady. kairos12 Jan 2018 #8
The guy opposite Chris didn't seem uncomfortable. DURHAM D Jan 2018 #9
But look at the young woman, whom I think is the "Queen" he's referring to. nolabear Jan 2018 #10
The "Queen" is Hillary. nt DURHAM D Jan 2018 #11
I thought so too, and maybe you're right. But he was addressing the woman. nolabear Jan 2018 #12
I just assumed she was going to hand the water to Hillary, DURHAM D Jan 2018 #15
I have never understood his appeal. I remember him being pro-Bush until 2008 campaigns started. marble falls Jan 2018 #13
This plus so much more discussed in this very same forum for over a decade now. Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2018 #14
The Bill Cosby pill was so he could drug her and rape her. DURHAM D Jan 2018 #16
He's been a practicing misogynist for years, will repost my Demopedia on him later UTUSN Jan 2018 #17
Please post it as a separate thread so I don't miss it. RandomAccess Jan 2018 #20
Here it is, been posting it for years & some might be tired of it: UTUSN Jan 2018 #22
WOW. Thanks so much for posting all that. RandomAccess Jan 2018 #25
He's a flunky. D.C. flunkies base their self-esteem on their bosses: UTUSN Jan 2018 #26
Absolutely true RandomAccess Jan 2018 #27
No, I've known about his misogyny for quite some time RandomAccess Jan 2018 #21
This might be the end of him. n.t. USALiberal Jan 2018 #23
Disappointing. IluvPitties Jan 2018 #24
I can't stand Matthews. Beacool Jan 2018 #28
Tweety's been really good lately at critiquing Trump/GOP radius777 Jan 2018 #29
It is never too late to expose a sexist pig making rape jokes. DURHAM D Jan 2018 #30

Response to DURHAM D (Reply #1)

still_one

(92,510 posts)
2. He voted for bush, so that says everything as far as I am concerned, and he used to fawn over
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:28 PM
Jan 2018

Peggy Noonan whenever she was on his show

He is a disgusting ass

Boomerproud

(7,983 posts)
3. Speechless.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:29 PM
Jan 2018

I ask this question to myself every time a story like this is told-What did Hillary Rodham Clinton do in her life to engender such visceral hatred?

LisaM

(27,850 posts)
5. I know. I know.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:32 PM
Jan 2018

It's infuriating, but on top of that, it's completely inexplicable.

The media can all be in disbelief, but where were they as 2016 unfolded? Anderson Cooper can be as pissed as he wants about Trump's calling countries shitholes, but when he had a chance to be a debate moderator, he asked Hillary about her emails.

dsc

(52,173 posts)
4. He is a sexist nut
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:31 PM
Jan 2018

but anyone of us who dared to say this in 2008 or 2016 were called either racists in 2008 or the establishment in 2016. He has a serious problem with women plain and simple.

nolabear

(42,004 posts)
10. But look at the young woman, whom I think is the "Queen" he's referring to.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:42 PM
Jan 2018

He sees her discomfort too, and laughs.

Dammit. I don't like him but I've watched him. Guess that's going to take some rethinking.

nolabear

(42,004 posts)
12. I thought so too, and maybe you're right. But he was addressing the woman.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:45 PM
Jan 2018

I get the impression she was walking around to give him the water at the end. One way or another (and it's doubly pissing he called Hillary that) it's odious.

DURHAM D

(32,617 posts)
15. I just assumed she was going to hand the water to Hillary,
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 06:00 PM
Jan 2018

iows she works for Hillary. Not sure, just what I assumed.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,513 posts)
14. This plus so much more discussed in this very same forum for over a decade now.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 05:51 PM
Jan 2018

Should be enough for people to shun this asshole into irrelevance. What his appeal is to so many. I'll never know.

DURHAM D

(32,617 posts)
16. The Bill Cosby pill was so he could drug her and rape her.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 06:06 PM
Jan 2018

He would have to drug Hillary to get the better of her.

I AM SO PISSED.

UTUSN

(70,788 posts)
22. Here it is, been posting it for years & some might be tired of it:
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 11:13 PM
Jan 2018


Etymology of "Tweety". During Campaign 2000 the media noise machine was swooning over the nicknames Shrub was giving some of them. Media Whores Online ran a contest to nickname Chris MATTHEWS. In the first three or so weeks, there was no clear, catchy front runner, with "The Screamer" sort of leading. Then one of MATTHEWS's own Hardball staff leaked to MWO that they themselves called him "Tweety" because of the Clairol shade of hair coloring he favored. This was immediately declared the winner. But in some quarters, it wasn't entirely satisfactory. For one thing, by the time the name was declared, the shade had changed to platinum, leading to a suggestion he be called "Carole LOMBARD".




Plus, "Tweety" sounded too affectionate.

His Misogyny. Then M-TV held its 20th or 25th or whatever anniversary, and all the cable echo chambers were doing segments of Britney shedding her duds down to almost nothing. Not to be left behind, Tweety followed suit, with a guest "culture" commentator from Time Mag, the young humor columnist, Joel STEIN. The staff kept re-running the Britney clip, and Tweety was clearly DROOLING disgustingly. STEIN said, "You're beginning to creep me out." Tweety responded, "Yeah, well, wait till YOU're 50." This led to the suggestion that "Tweety" be modified to "Tweezer" to retain the hair reference while canceling out the affection factor and also adding the (dirty old) "geezer" angle.

Back when, misogyny was a wink-wink/smirk-smirk thing among the old style flunkies like him, there were many examples of his, with HRC being his prime target for years until she was becoming a real contender, when he yearned to host her, but the bridges had been burned.

But here's a vignette from back in the day, regarding his wife Kathleen. He deigned to host her or let her co-host a segment or so, this time with him and another recycled miscreant Mike BARNICLE. She was standing like at the front of a class and they two were sitting like the smirking, spit-balling, Catholic schoolboy-jerks that they really are. She trudged through her presentation, taking her subject seriously while the two of them smirked, giggled, and mocked all the way. But regarding Kathleen, he exemplifies one signature characteristic of misogynists: Despite the obviously hostile behaviors, they claim to adore, honor, put-on-a-pedestal women. And Tweety frequently does that over-compensating, protests-too-much thing by referring to her as, "MY QUEEN."

*************So flash forward decades to the TWITLER atrocious era, specifically calling Senator WARREN “Pocahontas.” Tweety hosted her soon after a TWITLER episode of it, besides a manic outburst of his sputtering interrupting, almost giggling every time he said that name, catching himself each time then protesting that it was a horrible thing, like Beavis/Butthead giggling at a dirty word. So WARREN kept to the high road and that TWITLER was not going to silence her. So then he struck, like when he lashed out at DONAHUE. He was in bursting giggle mode and said, "So, for you 'Pocahontas' will be like a clarion call for you to come charging out!1" and he busted his gut. WARREN looked sucker punched.

Darrell HAMMOND "Doing" Tweety on SNL. Tweety's ego was massively stroked after the debut of HAMMOND's impersonation of him, either in 2001 or 2002. He said, "I am now an ICON: I have been 'done' on Saturday Night Live'." The funniest line in the debut was HAMMOND as Tweety, cracking himself up with, "For the ... FIFTY ... people who watch this show...” (Hardball, not SNL). In the first few times HAMMOND featured him, the target was Tweety himself -- manically interrupting, spitting, and drooling. However, the characterization evolved, not true to the original, where Tweety became the "rational" character surrounded by oddball, extremist "guests", with HAMMOND-Tweety shaking his head in disbelief at their partisan spin.

"Turning" from Being a Democrat. He (like G.E.RUSSERT and Pat CADDELL) still trades on having been a Democrat in the CARTER/O'NEILL era. In the hothouse of big time political flunkydom, STATUS and POWER come from the SUCCESS of your boss. RAYGUN kicked Tweety's bosses' rears, and Tweety gravitated to admiring that "success". When he started up his media career he was mentored by G.E. RUSSERT, who had himself already started "turning" by "reaching out" to LIMBOsevic and expending his formerly-Lib-bleeding-heart on those poor wingnuts who had been maligned and marginalized by the Liberal Elite, lo those many years. Tweety started doing video valentines to RAYGUN, promenading arm in arm with Nancy. He might have tapped into the frenzy of the FAKE impeachment, but "hatred of the CLINTONs" isn't what made him turn. The last time he was identifiably a Democrat was sometime around 1988 when Hardball (the book) was published. Throughout the year of Campaign 2000 he savaged the Dem candidate daily and went on to years of bromance over Shrub, renouncing any Democratic heritage. He said his parents were “cloth coat" (Rethugs), and that basically what first drew him to the Dem side was Irish-Catholic pride over JFK. Not ideology, not idealism. He said the reason he joined the Peace Corps was specifically to avoid going to Vietnam.

How Tweety "Executed" DONAHUE on MSNBC. Tweety was on his book tour for another one of his "books" (large type, wide spaces between lines, blank half-pages). It was in the jingoistic hysteria in the run-up to the illegal Iraq attack. The book was about supposed "Americanism" -- an American Civ 101 ripoff about books and movies and cultural stuff that are essentially American (think, "The Great Gatsby" ). So Phil welcomed him as a colleague and peer on Phil's MSNBC show for the full hour to plug the book. From the moment he appeared, there was a strange, deadly snake look in Tweety's snake eyes. Phil was walking around the audience, apparently not sensing anything, while Tweety was motionless, following him only with his eyes. Phil brought up something or other questioning blind, kneejerk jingoism, and Tweety STRUCK! He started out with venom dripping, "You see, THIS is EXACTLY what's wrong with YOU Liberals: You are NEGATIVE about this country, you find NOTHING good about it," and on and on. It took awhile before Phil figured out what was happening. Later, Phil, devastated and spent, was sitting at the table with Tweety and, weaker and weaker, did some of his trademark shoulder shrugging and arm waving. Tweety delivered the coup de grace, "What's THIS (mimicking the movements)??!! What's with the --APE-- movements???!" Days or a week or two later, Phil's cancellation was announced and took effect.

How Tweety "Triggered" a Gun Incident (re: Kathleen WILLEY). At the height of the FAKE impeachment, Ms WILLEY claimed that a mystery jogger had threatened her or her cat or somebody, with the insinuation that there was a CLINTON connection. Several months later, there was gossip that the jogger had been identified. Tweety hosted her and it appeared they had discussed the identity off camera. He tried mightily to get her to say the name on the air, which she wouldn't do. Finally, he himself blurted it out, "Was it (Name/Surname)?" She wouldn’t confirm it. Within days there was a bizarre incident, with the mentally disabled brother of Pat and Bay BUCHANAN going with a gun to the house of the supposed jogger named by Tweety, where there were only some foreign exchange students present. Later it was determined that the person Tweety named on the air had NOTHING to do with the supposed jogger incident.

"Heroes" Tweety and Tom DeLAY. In the aftermath of the 07-24-98 shooting of two Capitol police officers when the slain officers were duly eulogized and called heroes, Tweety latched on to this, the way we have seen him attempt to glorify himself in other instances: Like saying he was assigned to Africa in the Peace Corps and "WALKED THE SAME GROUND" THAT CHURCHILL had passed through. Or when he said, "I am an ICON! I have been 'done' by SNL!". So now that the Capitol policemen were being called heroes, Tweety came forward to say that HE had been a Capitol policemen, TOO, JUST LIKE THEM, when he was starting out. It turns out that he had worked a (temporary?) job for three months as that. In all the years before the officers were shot and eulogized, he probably NEVER referred to that job, most likely thinking of it as a rent-a-cop turn, until he could see in retrospect the glory that he had been DESTINED to from the beginning.

But he is not the only glory hog. When that incident was happening, the news of the moment reported that Tom DELAY had hopped a plane out of town and immediately turned around in Houston when the incident was over. This show of courage is why he has been dubbed, "Tom-DePLANE!-DePLANE!-DELAY". But searches of countless news reports of that time show no mention of the hopping-the-plane. Only this is left: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/ "...House members, many rushing out of town, did not have to remain behind. DeLay slipped out the main door of the Capitol less than 15 minutes after the shooting. He looked stricken. Asked if he'd seen anything, he said, "Did I ever. I don't want to talk about it." Aides rushed him into his waiting car. ...."

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
25. WOW. Thanks so much for posting all that.
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 11:32 PM
Jan 2018

Excellent information.

I'll never forget the "shiver up his leg" (wasn't it) Matthews got over GWBush?? As well as other clearly homoerotic fawning over the guy, esp. him in his flight suit after he landed on that aircraft carrier.

My favorite was when he went on the Daily Show with his new book a good while back and he was so proud of it and so expecting Stewart to fawn all over it, but Stewart found it horrible. IIRC (and my memory really is poor on this), the premise of the book, meant as a motivational or how to succeed in life treatise, which Jon objected to so strongly was Matthews' pursuit of power kind of as an end in itself, minus much integrity. I think Matthews asked him something like "What didn't you like about it?" and Stewart said, "Everything."

UTUSN

(70,788 posts)
26. He's a flunky. D.C. flunkies base their self-esteem on their bosses:
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 11:41 PM
Jan 2018

If the boss is on top of the heap, the flunky is, too. When RAYGUN beat CARTER and lorded over O'NEILL, Tweety started worshipping RAYGUN.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
27. Absolutely true
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 11:47 PM
Jan 2018

That's why he was so pro-GWB. And then, he was pro-Obama. And then when it was CLEAR that damn war was a huge mistake, why suddenly he'd never been for it in the first place -- a first-rate lie if there ever was one.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
21. No, I've known about his misogyny for quite some time
Fri Jan 12, 2018, 07:05 PM
Jan 2018

I'd like to see this or something get him thrown off TV - at long, long last.

Beacool

(30,254 posts)
28. I can't stand Matthews.
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 12:00 AM
Jan 2018

He has made many inappropriate remarks about Hillary over the years. The guy is a sexist pig and I don't find him any better than Trump when it comes to his chauvinist behavior.

They can both go and f**k themselves.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
29. Tweety's been really good lately at critiquing Trump/GOP
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 12:05 AM
Jan 2018

makes you wonder why this is coming out now.

Tweety is irreverent, not sexist imo, AFAIK he's on good terms w/Hillary and (iirc) voted for her.

Despite his flaws he's a sharp political analyst who sees angles that most others don't.

DURHAM D

(32,617 posts)
30. It is never too late to expose a sexist pig making rape jokes.
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 12:17 AM
Jan 2018

As for your opinion about him not being sexist...you must not be paying close attention. Most of us have known this from the get go.
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