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kentuck

(111,111 posts)
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 02:34 PM Jan 2018

If I lived in Norway, why would I want to move to America?

If I had free healthcare, free college education, 6-weeks paid vacation, paid maternity leave for both parents, and numerous other benefits not afforded by America, why would I leave Norway for America?

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If I lived in Norway, why would I want to move to America? (Original Post) kentuck Jan 2018 OP
You wouldn't. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #1
Further proof... Loge23 Jan 2018 #5
But it will be a big BANG flag! kentuck Jan 2018 #8
We don't know if our missile defense system would actually work. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #10
Who is the "we" in "We basically terrorize Hawaii"? former9thward Jan 2018 #23
Correction to your subject line. spiderpig Jan 2018 #2
:-) kentuck Jan 2018 #4
Noting your Vietnam service ribbon. spiderpig Jan 2018 #12
Better food. Pope George Ringo II Jan 2018 #3
Uh, Norwegians have salmon. pangaia Jan 2018 #25
I will give them the fish Pope George Ringo II Jan 2018 #29
Well........ hummmmm..... pangaia Jan 2018 #39
I have a friend who moved here when she married an American. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2018 #6
I imagine its similar to Alaska in that PearliePoo2 Jan 2018 #7
They are resourceful people; they came up with a solution: The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #15
That is really the cat's meow pangaia Jan 2018 #40
I could handle more northern latitudes because I'm quite the opposite misanthrope Jan 2018 #33
Maybe for the weather. I, for one, am happy that my forebears came here from Sweden. Arkansas Granny Jan 2018 #9
Hey! There's a meme for that! underpants Jan 2018 #11
Great chart Gothmog Jan 2018 #30
+1 dalton99a Jan 2018 #31
they wouldnt AlexSFCA Jan 2018 #13
I'll take their "Socialist paradise" any day, lol Ohiogal Jan 2018 #14
Some of my ancestors came from there in the middle of the 19th century. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #16
Where would Lake Wobegon be without Norwegians? pangaia Jan 2018 #41
I had a couple of old great-uncles, brothers, The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #42
Sun, heat, sandy beaches, pizza, proximity to the rest of the world..... lindysalsagal Jan 2018 #17
Yes, about 4 million, but they are Americans whose ancestors left Norway The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #36
A friend of mine married a Norwegian - he went back jpak Jan 2018 #18
Weather for one thing Progressive dog Jan 2018 #19
You all should read this article... tgards79 Jan 2018 #20
Thanks for the link. kentuck Jan 2018 #21
Only one reason besides the weather I can think of, tax exiles. They even have rules for it there. stevenleser Jan 2018 #22
The only thing I could think of is the weather but from what I'm seeing in the Eastern Upthevibe Jan 2018 #24
You're right about the happiest place, and more to the point, the US has recieved napi21 Jan 2018 #28
There was a time... kentuck Jan 2018 #26
Only if you are a criminal and think efhmc Jan 2018 #27
Even criminals don't want to leave Norway dalton99a Jan 2018 #32
Significantly less chance of Moose attack? Noodleboy13 Jan 2018 #34
Maybe due to marrying treestar Jan 2018 #35
No country is perfect. Even in Norway not all can participate. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #37
I wouldn't crazycatlady Jan 2018 #38

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
5. Further proof...
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 02:40 PM
Jan 2018

We can't even manage our strategic defense system anymore.
We basically terrorize Hawaii and could have sparked a nuclear confrontation because some idiot pushed the wrong button! This takes over 30 minutes to correct!!
You have to wonder if a "BANG!" flag will pop out of the silos if, God forbid, we ever do need them.
Add to education, health care, infrastructure, inequality, etc, etc.

Irish_Dem

(47,928 posts)
10. We don't know if our missile defense system would actually work.
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 02:46 PM
Jan 2018

We have silos located across the globe in various critical locations.
But we don't really know when push comes to shove how effective
they would be against a strong, coordinated missile attack.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
3. Better food.
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 02:38 PM
Jan 2018

Seriously, that's about all the list I've got. Pizza, crawfish, and barbecue weighed against what you've listed.

Kind of sad, if we're honest.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
25. Uh, Norwegians have salmon.
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 05:32 PM
Jan 2018

Really, really good salmon!!!

The first time I was there I was in Trondheim and I ate smoked Salmon three times a day !!!

On my SAS flight back to the USA, I had SMOKED SALMON !!!

I know, I know. SAS headquarters is in Sweden, but the flight left from Oslo,, so.. yummy !!!

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
29. I will give them the fish
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 07:12 PM
Jan 2018

But we do have a better-represented list of various ethnic groups with their own foods. Chinese, Mexican, Cajun, Italian, etc.

And especially in the American South, that $!*%&*% catfish crap they try to pass off as edible makes the Norwegian fish look even better, but overall the food is one thing the USA does better.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
39. Well........ hummmmm.....
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 08:54 PM
Jan 2018

I agree, we have more variety of... cuisines brought here by...........................................
.......................................................

IMMIGRANTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WhiskeyGrinder

(22,518 posts)
6. I have a friend who moved here when she married an American.
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 02:41 PM
Jan 2018

They've since divorced, and best believe she kept her citizenship. She still lives here, though.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
7. I imagine its similar to Alaska in that
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 02:41 PM
Jan 2018

for many, the long dark, cold winters are difficult to handle. For me personally, I HAVE to see daylight and the sun on a daily basis or I go into a major funk.

misanthrope

(7,436 posts)
33. I could handle more northern latitudes because I'm quite the opposite
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 07:51 PM
Jan 2018

Lack of daylight doesn't really bother me. I'm a natural night owl as well.

Having spent most of my life in the sub-tropics where the oppressive summers seem to never end, I spend a lot of time hiding from the sunlight. The winter on the northern Gulf Coast is its most enjoyable season with fewer pests and reasonable humidity.

As the days grow shorter, I get a charge from it. For me, there's something cozy and magical about the long nights.

By the time vernal equinox arrives, we're about a month away from summer's swelter which first rears its head in late April. I've had so much "summer" in my life, I could without for the remainder of my days.

Arkansas Granny

(31,542 posts)
9. Maybe for the weather. I, for one, am happy that my forebears came here from Sweden.
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 02:44 PM
Jan 2018

I don't care for really cold winters.

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
13. they wouldnt
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 02:53 PM
Jan 2018

and that’s why only about 500 norwegians moved here in recent years likey due to business or family and most definately NOT to seek a better life.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,984 posts)
16. Some of my ancestors came from there in the middle of the 19th century.
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 03:14 PM
Jan 2018

Back then, it was kind of a "shithole" - farming was on a subsistence basis because the terrain is mostly vertical, or you could take up fishing. Primogeniture laws further limited the prospects of younger sons. Because they had no way to improve their lives at home, a lot of Norwegians and Swedes immigrated to the U.S., particularly the midwest, where there was lots of land and the opportunities seemed infinite even for the poor and uneducated. So I get why my GGG-grandfather and family moved to Wisconsin - but there are times when I wish they had stayed put.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,984 posts)
42. I had a couple of old great-uncles, brothers,
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 09:27 PM
Jan 2018

who were exactly Lake Wobegon's Norwegian Bachelor Farmers. I LMAO when I first heard that bit on A Prairie Home Companion because Keillor could have written it based on those old curmudgeons.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,984 posts)
36. Yes, about 4 million, but they are Americans whose ancestors left Norway
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 08:27 PM
Jan 2018

during the 19th and early 20th centuries when Norway was poor. They didn't come for the sun, heat, or sandy beaches; in fact, they mostly settled in Minnesota, Wisconsin and North Dakota, which have climates similar to Norway's. For sun and warmth Scandinavians often visit Florida and California on their holidays (or Spain or Italy), but they no longer come to the US to live here permanently in any significant numbers.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
22. Only one reason besides the weather I can think of, tax exiles. They even have rules for it there.
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 05:02 PM
Jan 2018

You have to spend less than 40-60 days in the country for 3 years and then you are considered a tax exile. You can then spend 1 day less than half a year in Norway after that and only pay Norwegian taxes on money you earn in Norway.

Upthevibe

(8,107 posts)
24. The only thing I could think of is the weather but from what I'm seeing in the Eastern
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 05:08 PM
Jan 2018

part of our country, it doesn't look so great about now. The OP is ABSOLUTELY correct...Plus, I think I read just a couple of weeks ago that Norway is the happiest place on planet Earth....

napi21

(45,806 posts)
28. You're right about the happiest place, and more to the point, the US has recieved
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 05:56 PM
Jan 2018

quite a few responses from residents of Norway. Some of the replies were from polititions, some from residents, and one from an American who is a college professor in Norway. Too many responses to link. Just Google Norway responses to Trump) everyone I read said said the sam thing...Thanks, but no thanks!

Of course, our stupid leader will say that's a lie made up by the Dems.

kentuck

(111,111 posts)
26. There was a time...
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 05:33 PM
Jan 2018

when America was admired around the world. Even Norway admired America. It was not the country that they admired, it was the ideal and the people. It was about freedom, liberty, and a constant struggle to be a better people. Who else could be the melting pot of the world? What country could replace America? The answer is "None".

efhmc

(14,736 posts)
27. Only if you are a criminal and think
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 05:41 PM
Jan 2018

now that's the place for me. However, I get the general idea that rampant greed and the desire to subjugate and harm others so you can make a profit is not the general mind set there.

dalton99a

(81,707 posts)
32. Even criminals don't want to leave Norway
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 07:41 PM
Jan 2018

This is the prison cell of Erling Havnå, who is serving 14 years for a $10M heist in which one police officer was shot and killed


Noodleboy13

(422 posts)
34. Significantly less chance of Moose attack?
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 07:56 PM
Jan 2018

Seriously, my sister was bitten by a moose once......

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

Peace,
Noodleboy

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
38. I wouldn't
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 08:53 PM
Jan 2018

However, the only reason I can think of would be weather.

Some people (definitely not me) hate winter and want to be in a warm climate (which Norway is not). Some US states offer that.

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