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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJoe Scarborough has just gone apeshit on Morning Joe
Joe has gone on a screed claiming that Putin has something horrific that he is hanging over Trump's head.
Joe also says it is all going to come out and that the American people are going to be horrified.
He is calling out Trump as a dictator, stopping short of comparing him to Hitler and Stalin.
The news media knows what is coming. I think they are holding back in deference to Mueller.
It is a known fact that what gets out into the public is a fraction of what journalist and reporters actually know. They are just waiting.
Vinca
(50,329 posts)I think Mika threw a bone to Dear Leader when she made a remark about how he could swoop in at the last minute and save the day when it comes to the government shut down. They even covered Trump being spanked by the porn star! You know that pee tape is coming . . .
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)with a rolled up Fortune magazine that has his face on the cover! Holy Crap!
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Yes, we have reached that point where the weekend host of the Today Show actually had to remind a guest which magazine that a porn star used to spank the President of the United States.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)We are in bizzaro world!
deminks
(11,023 posts)I hope they mentioned that part.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/01/stormy-daniels-once-claimed-she-spanked-donald-trump-with-a-forbes-magazine/
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)I've been trying to ignore this particular story, because, gross!!!
But if this horrific detail is true 😥
...scuse me, gag reflex.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Fuck you and Fuck your wife too.
You knew who trump was, better than most, and so did "I must be smart because my daddy was" Mika. You knew that he would rot even the GOP standards, and that he was willing to appeal to the very very worst of the base, the sort that would gladly bring back lynchings. However, The 2016 elections was a gold mine, especially as all you had to do was pick the low hanging fruit of Hillary hate. Maybe you were too stupid to realize how bad the cancer would get, but frankly, after seeing W. you should not have. Now, now that weknow that Trump will finally drag this nation down, to the cheers of Moscow and Beijing and who knows who else, now you are trying to save your soul, right as Lucifer comes around the bend ready to throw you into the low low pits reserved for liars and con men.
They are part of the problem, not heroes.
Jarqui
(10,131 posts)madaboutharry
(40,246 posts)I think their crime was not taking Trump's candidacy seriously. They thought he would lose and go away. I think this is how the media let us all down, they didn't do their job. They treated Trump's campaign like a sideshow. It was disgraceful. That said, I don't believe anyone imagined what we now know to be true.
I think it is important to give credit when it is due. Joe left the republican party and has become a voice of reason. Will he always be a conservative? Yes. Is he an evil person? No. I believe in second chances.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)When everyone else was treating his campaign like a joke, Joe and Mika said all along he could win. So they sucked up to him, put him on the air every single time he called in. They were some of the worst offenders in giving him all the free advertising he wanted.
madaboutharry
(40,246 posts)And I respect your point of view. I just see things differently. I think forming alliances is important now.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)an actual crap about all the damage he's doing - and not just lashing out because he insulted them, I would agree 100% with you. But they sucked up to him until the very second he threatened to "out" their relationship (and then the plastic surgery thing about Mika). Their motives matter to me.
Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)and the Republicans.
But some won't use a tool that'll save their life out of principle sometimes.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)especially when they are just converted weapons of the enemy that will gladly cut you the first chance they get. Does anyone think that they would not slit our throat if they thought they could redeem the gop brand?
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,360 posts)Chemisse
(30,824 posts)They did a lot of damage in the past, but they are helping our cause quite a lot right now.
We have to move forward and take any new anti-Trumpers with us. We don't need to waste our energy being angry about what has passed.
marble falls
(57,523 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)but, Tweety got a lot of grief on here for changing his views with the wind
marble falls
(57,523 posts)now that's sarcasm.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)I watch erin burnett. He was always annoying to watch with his constant interruptions. I'll never forgive ANYONE who propped up the degenerate in the oval office. Never.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)It wasnt meant as a compliment.
yardwork
(61,793 posts)dchill
(38,622 posts)Nitram
(22,967 posts)hatrack
(59,602 posts)Thank you for reading my mind this morning.
LiberalBrooke
(527 posts)I will never forget or forgive anyone who did not promote and vote for Hillary. We all knew how bad he would be and Joe continued to give him a voice and made him sound rational for ratings. Not until don the con dissed them did Joe and Mika turn around. Its about our country not you personally, idiots.
FSogol
(45,586 posts)From Huffpost back in July:
A few days later, CNN reported that MSNBC officials were concerned about Scarboroughs friendship with Trump and his increasingly favorable coverage of the candidate. According to CNN, MSNBC insiders called Scarboroughs admiration for Trump over the top and unseemly. The Washington Post observed that Trump received a tremendous degree of warmth from the show, and that his appearances on the show, in person and over the phone, often felt like a cozy social club.
That coziness was caught on tape during an MSNBC town hall with Trump in New York that Scarborough and Brzezinski hosted in February 2016. An unaired clip of banter between Brzezinski and Trump in-between segments revealed the two of them colluding about what questions shed ask him. Nothing too hard, Mika, Trump says. OK, she responded.
Even after Trumps most disgusting and troublesome traits were revealed to the entire country throughout the campaign his abuse of women, his attacks on Latinos, immigrants, Muslims, and people with disabilities, his profound ignorance of basic issues and government policy, and the corruption and scandals surrounding Trump University and the Trump foundation Scarborough (and to a lesser extent Brzezinski) continued to lend Trump their support.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joe-and-mika-owe-america-an-apology_us_5957408be4b0c85b96c6622a
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)on nearly a weekly basis last summer and fall. Mika got off the Trump bandwagon much earlier, but that doesn't excuse them giving him millions of dollars in free air time winter and spring 2016.
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)love seeing Joe S. squirm in pain as he sees 45 doing damage to Joe's beloved party like they and he are such wonderful human beings whose agenda they have of everyone for himself. As far as I'm concerned, the repug party including so-called moderates is a bunch of little weasels whose professed beliefs are excuses for being just plain stingy. I wish I could remember the exact wording someone else had of that sentiment, it was really well put. Maybe some one can point it out.
padah513
(2,515 posts)This is the post of the day as far as I'm concerned. They are as responsible for Trump being president as Putin and Russia.
yardwork
(61,793 posts)uponit7771
(90,371 posts)Paladin
(28,287 posts)Iggo
(47,597 posts)This is on you, Joe and Mika.
You did this.
gopiscrap
(23,768 posts)woodsprite
(11,941 posts)has the energy to say her lines.
Can't stand either one, and I highly agree that they knew exactly what they were doing when they spent their days promoting and covering for him. Wonder if they got any Russian money for their acting.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,580 posts)...in terms of "...how bad the cancer could get.."
I think very few realized just how insane this would be.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)The variety of candidates is a positive here, and many of the lesser known can serve as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right. In this scenario, we dont want to marginalize the more extreme candidates, but make them more Pied Piper candidates who actually represent the mainstream of the Republican Party, read the memo.
Pied Piper candidates include, but arent limited to:
Ted Cruz
Donald Trump
Ben Carson
We need to be elevating the Pied Piper candidates so that they are leaders of the pack and tell the press to [take] them seriously."
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/hillary-clinton-2016-donald-trump-214428
Promoting him was literally out of the campaigns playbook. Both the campaign and Joe Asshole Scarborough did it for the same motivation: ratings.
For the record, I did NOT call out Clinton. If you read the article I linked to, it says staffer Mook was the one who was too late in recognizing Trump as a viable threat. The book Shattered adds a lot more detail about Mooks various failings. He, in my own often-stupid opinion, is more responsible for President Trump than just about anyone, including Morning Asshole and Vladimir Putin.
That rant aside: Joe is the most fair-weathered friend on cable TV. Hell say whatever is necessary to keep his job and ratings. Im in total agreement that hes a piece of shit.
Juliusseizure
(562 posts)Last edited Sat Jan 20, 2018, 04:08 PM - Edit history (2)
I hate hypocrisy and flip-flopping as much as everyone.
But these sanctimonious purity tests are the same mindset that got W Bush elected as purists voted for Ralph Nader, bringing on 4 years of awe inspiring GOP destruction. Meanwhile, that green party for all purposes functioned as a GOP plant party, in effecting that outcome.
Similarly, Trump would hug you for this post. Its so delightfully pro-Trump in its vitriol against an important anti-Trump media spokesperson.
Right now, there's no more vocal opponent to Trump in mass media than Morning Joe.
I watch it daily, because he's outspoken, passionate, and aggressively anti-Trump, and since he was formerly a Trump friend and Republican, his voice has more credibility to the viewer. If he's doing it for ratings only, which I don't believe, I don't care. I want Trump gone.
The same applies to Steve Schmidt, Rick Wilson, David Frum, George Will, and the rest of what I'd formerly call GOP hacks. In my opinion, Trump passed certain moral/political boundaries that are unacceptable to them.
I respect that evolution, and welcome their help in bringing down this existential threat to democracy, especially because there's plenty of Trump loyalists like Rush Limbaugh and Hannity who haven't,
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)Perfect is the enemy of progress. Let's get back the power before we start killing off our own. Again.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)As long as someone is helping to bring down Trump and his administration, I am not going to bash them. Let's go after the real danger in the media. I don't see the point in wasting our anger on them.
lkinwi
(1,477 posts)They almost appear giddy. Hopefully the leaks keep on coming.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Scar said it all comes down to what Putin has hanging over Donalds head and that its BAD! He said peoples heads are going to EXPLODE!
colbertforpresident
(241 posts)sex with kids.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,860 posts)Unlike Mika, I really can't. I don't have cable anymore.
Upthevibe
(8,107 posts)members EVER on SNL!
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)Skittles
(153,310 posts)he was on SNL for 11 years from 2002 - 2013
yes, he is indeed hiarious
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)CTyankee
(63,926 posts)"You read the book, right? You liked it, right? So what's the problem?"
I love the "baby races" and Mika's horror...
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Doing that part and her Hallelujah goodbye was one the best sad endings I have ever seen.
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)"I'm going to vomit all over you" was hysterical. I bet Mika and Joe HATE it when SNL does another Morning Joe satire...
dhol82
(9,353 posts)CTyankee
(63,926 posts)"There sure are a lot of BROWN ones!"
"Kelleyanne, she got no legs."
Bluepinky
(2,279 posts)IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,278 posts)The Russian tape they most assuredly have will for sure be Sick Don with minors. They got the girls for him with the intention of filming it so they could blackmail him, zero chance they didn't find a couple 13 year old prostitutes who looked 17 for Sick Don. Most Russian prostitutes are teenagers anyway, but if they really were trying to get the goods on Don they made sure these girls were as young as possible.
These girls are probably either dead because Putin had them killed for Don, or they're being hidden somewhere to have further leverage over Donald. Imagine they interview these girls and they say they were 11 or 12 at the time. Does anyone think Sick Don was checking IDs?
mopinko
(70,377 posts)imho, he acted exactly as jane doe said he acted. which revives the whole rape allegations against him. and that will be linked in the press. they wont want to, but someone will put it out there.
Johnny2X2X
(19,278 posts)Trump is a sick deviant, his previous sex assaults and harassment show a pattern of needing to dominate women to feel powerful. It's entirely possible they told him before hand he could kill the girl(s) if he wanted to.
And it's all on tape.
I've been saying from the get go, if the tape were just a pee pee tape Trump wouldn't care and most of his voters wouldn't either. It is more than just that, at a minimum it's Trump acting submissive and begging for his mommy or something humiliating like that. Most likely it's very young girls. And worse case it's murder.
mopinko
(70,377 posts)about how old the girls were.
brush
(53,978 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)#45 has rubbed elbows (on an international basis, now) with certain individuals who, because of the nature of their business, prefer to remain out of the spotlight.
But they are there. And they are always busy, working hard until the job is done for, I mean, done.
samnsara
(17,665 posts)..its 4:19 am now..took me longer to feed the dogs than expected. what'd I miss what'd I miss? wait grabbing coffee and popcorn
madaboutharry
(40,246 posts)So that would be 5:00 your time. (Pacific Time Zone - is that right?)
Silver Gaia
(4,552 posts)Anybody know where and when I might find video of this morning's show? I missed it and won't be able to catch a repeat. I'm not a huge fan, but this sounds like it's worth watching.
madaboutharry
(40,246 posts)If you go to MSNBC.com and click on Watch, there is a drop down menu of the shows. You will probably be able to watch the video.
Silver Gaia
(4,552 posts)madaboutharry
(40,246 posts)Go to the website and click on Watch Live.
Silver Gaia
(4,552 posts)For anyone interested in seeing this segment without having to watch the whole show, the time on the clock in the lower right corner of the video reads about 3:24 PT when this discussion begins and about 3:42 PT when it ends. I used this instead of the counter on the video because it seemed more reliable (I'm on my phone).
Search for: MORNING JOE MSNBC NEWS January 19, 2018
OxQQme
(2,550 posts)mucifer
(23,624 posts)PJMcK
(22,072 posts)They usually make segments from all of their shows available. Look under their "WATCH" menu.
Enjoy!
DeminPennswoods
(15,295 posts)he says Scarborough essentially hitched his show's wagon to Trump. Apparently the show's ratings weren't great, so he went all in with Trump to boost them.
CanSocDem
(3,286 posts)Amazing how some want to give this bird the time of day.
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yardwork
(61,793 posts)It's all about the ratings to Joe and Mika. There's no journalistic integrity there. It's not even journalism. Just entertainment.
Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)And those are definitely worth watching for.
Atman
(31,464 posts)Just because he claims to hate Trump now -- despite all of the work he and Mika did to help get him elected -- doesn't sway me. Joe is still complete scum.
OnDoutside
(19,986 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,278 posts)That whole party knows what Putin has and they used it too. Throw them out of power and never let them back in.
Oh, and this is more than a pee pee tape. Trump might even survive it if it weee just that. The girls on it are way under aged. That is a certainty.
Fullduplexxx
(7,880 posts)Thru new york real estate... for legal purposes... imo . That and the pee pee tape
lindysalsagal
(20,793 posts)govern. That's why none of them can govern.
He told them in no uncertain terms: "If you take me down, you come with me."
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)supporting him. The destruction of america as we knew it has been well underway now for a year. and the damage may go so far as it will take decades to correct. The appointment of radical rightwing judges takes years to overcome.....
this is the result of those who chose not to vote or voted for Stein....the "lesser of 2 evils" bullshit. So now we got great evil. Its not russias fault, not Koch brothers fault,,its the fault of those who knew better and did what they did knowing what would happen.
We have no choice but to take back our country and end the bickering in out ranks or we all deserve what is still to come. PERIOD.
Morning Joe contributed to trump's rise but it was voters who would not support Hillary that gave him the whitehouse
underpants
(183,024 posts)Yikes
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)8 years he trashed Obama, now he compares how much better Obamas stats are to Trumps'
I remember when Obama was elected, he literally cringed on his show and whined. Mika kept telling him to stop
Botany
(70,650 posts)Fuck 'em.
WhiteTara
(29,736 posts)He has no standing in my eyes.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)He and Mika keep trying to convince us that they started warning us years ago about him. Of course whatever "warning" they gave was completely drowned out in their fawning coverage, daily call-in interviews and trash-talking Hillary, so it's likely no one noticed.
niyad
(113,952 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Hekate
(91,013 posts)This sounds like it would have been fun to watch
Rollo
(2,559 posts)...on national TV to try to retain the evangelical vote...???
It would be classic.
awesomerwb1
(4,269 posts)Desperate for ratings are we?
PatrickforO
(14,604 posts)Trump can't be ridden out of office soon enough. He's already done untold damage, just with his executive orders and appointments, and the Republicans in Congress passing this tax cut for rich people? That's gonna hurt this country badly in the near term - I'm looking for a recession.
These people don't want to govern, just to destroy, and I'm fucking so sick of that. I can live with differences in opinion, and with compromise.
C Moon
(12,226 posts)Gothmog
(145,911 posts)trueblue2007
(17,250 posts)I want him to GO DOWN ..... i want to see trump imprisoned.
brewens
(13,666 posts)Dan
(3,589 posts)I think that the Russians have pictures of Trump and daughter doing the naughty thing...
MFM008
(19,836 posts)But republican acquiescence/complicity will be just as shocking.
brettdale
(12,390 posts)Saying stuff like this, but not telling people.