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Cyrano

(15,076 posts)
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:10 PM Jan 2018

Republicans are singing in sync. We aren't.

Their messaging machine goes into action and all Republicans use the same talking points. They are very good at repeat, repeat, repeat.

Democrats are making sense and doing their best, but they're not putting out a synchronized message.

Basically, the impact of their propaganda is far superior to the reasonable statements being made by Democrats. We've really got to get better at this stuff. That sucks, but that's reality.

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Republicans are singing in sync. We aren't. (Original Post) Cyrano Jan 2018 OP
I agree, this was one thing Bill Clinton was good at. dem4decades Jan 2018 #1
There should only be one message and with one voice randr Jan 2018 #2
Yep, Dems need to work on that awesomerwb1 Jan 2018 #3
What should the message be? oberliner Jan 2018 #4
I agree but language needs to be simple. Most people don't even know what DACA means. Doodley Jan 2018 #8
Good point oberliner Jan 2018 #22
The language is very simple, easy to understand, "Trump Shutdown" that's it. Stuart G Jan 2018 #25
Oops.... Kingofalldems Jan 2018 #20
So it's #1 oberliner Jan 2018 #21
They also respond and react instead of leading. n/t rainin Jan 2018 #5
They are now coalescing around we offered the wall for FUCKS SAKE... Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #6
Actually, that fact is better for Democrats ConnorMarc Jan 2018 #27
Duer no hypocrisy gave an explanation for that that I think is correct: Squinch Jan 2018 #28
I'm not saying that's a bad thing I was just pointing out that that is the talking point Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #30
One overwhelming message should be that this is a shutdown because Trump is a racist and wants to Doodley Jan 2018 #7
Should, could, would. The reality is that Cyrano Jan 2018 #11
Lakoff talked about this yesterday on The Beat with Ari KewlKat Jan 2018 #9
Thanks elleng Jan 2018 #10
Can you please quantify that? GreenEyedLefty Jan 2018 #12
Republicans actually distribute their Cyrano Jan 2018 #13
I don't watch television news. GreenEyedLefty Jan 2018 #14
Good to know Cyrano Jan 2018 #18
We've got a single message that's the #1 trending hashtag on TWITTER, worldwide underthematrix Jan 2018 #15
Dems should be putting out repeated messages but not singing democratisphere Jan 2018 #16
Well, one thing about the Democratic Party are Iliyah Jan 2018 #17
Republicans have always been better at "messaging" because... kentuck Jan 2018 #19
Their propaganda only works among their idiot base JI7 Jan 2018 #23
should be AMERICA FIRST AND bluestarone Jan 2018 #24
Propaganda is the tool of fascists thbobby Jan 2018 #26
We never do and never have DavidDvorkin Jan 2018 #29
Republicans own the media and the clergy. We don't. Initech Jan 2018 #31
Republicans are authoritarian followers. We aren't meow2u3 Jan 2018 #32

randr

(12,418 posts)
2. There should only be one message and with one voice
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:14 PM
Jan 2018

America will suffer due to Trumps refusal to sign on the bill he asked for.
Also Republicans suck at everything and will never be able to get anything done that the lsos doesn't ask for.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. What should the message be?
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:16 PM
Jan 2018

1. The shutdown is all Trump's fault.

or

2. We will fight for DACA even if it means a shutdown.

 

ConnorMarc

(653 posts)
27. Actually, that fact is better for Democrats
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 12:11 AM
Jan 2018

That they practically bent over backwards with no Vaseline ready to take it, and 45 STILL WOULDN'T sign the dam bill.

Squinch

(51,090 posts)
28. Duer no hypocrisy gave an explanation for that that I think is correct:
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 10:20 AM
Jan 2018
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10125953

WE should also be coalescing around that and saying, "SEE? There is NOTHING the Democrats could have offered that they would have agreed to. They were not negotiating in good faith. They were hell bent on screwing all you dumb republicans who fell for their lies, and now they are going to. Elections have consequences. Now you suffer."
 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
30. I'm not saying that's a bad thing I was just pointing out that that is the talking point
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 05:46 PM
Jan 2018

everybody was rallying behind - and as it should be. This FOOL is the BIGGEST problem and he ain't no dealmaker he
is Dealbreaker Dotard Donny.

Doodley

(9,176 posts)
7. One overwhelming message should be that this is a shutdown because Trump is a racist and wants to
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:18 PM
Jan 2018

deport people who have lived as children and most their lives in America. Trump and racist are the key words that need to be repeated.

Cyrano

(15,076 posts)
11. Should, could, would. The reality is that
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:30 PM
Jan 2018

the Democratic Party does not have in place a well-oiled, synchronized messaging machine.

The Party, as a whole, must get such a machine in place. And they'd better do it far before election time.

GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
12. Can you please quantify that?
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:31 PM
Jan 2018

I need to see proof of the superiority of Republican propaganda.

Wherever I go, I see people thoroughly exasperated by the "leadership" in Washington. What is needed is MORE voices of reason, not more propaganda.

Cyrano

(15,076 posts)
13. Republicans actually distribute their
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:37 PM
Jan 2018

written talking points to each member of congress, and all of their pundits.

This is true on an ongoing basis, regardless of the issue. Just flip around the TV dial during news hours or half hours. The Republican are all singing the same tune. Dems aren't.

GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
14. I don't watch television news.
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:43 PM
Jan 2018

I glean my news from various sources on the net and like to watch Twitter. That's where the real news is happening. Democrats are winning the internet, bigly.

Besides, you can't argue with results:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/01/17/this-is-what-the-democratic-special-election-wave-looks-like/?utm_term=.bffb76a8c9ed

All the talking heads in the world aren't going to get people to the polls, that is why getting out the vote is going to be so important. Best yet, it works. Just ask Virginia and Alabama.

Cyrano

(15,076 posts)
18. Good to know
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:53 PM
Jan 2018

I've been avoiding twitter, but I guess it's time to sign up. Thank you, GreenEyedLefty.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
16. Dems should be putting out repeated messages but not singing
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:45 PM
Jan 2018

from the same exact scripts. The GOP are experts at fake messaging, alternative facts and everything else propoganda. Hammer the hell out of them with our inclusive positions and support.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
17. Well, one thing about the Democratic Party are
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:51 PM
Jan 2018

difference voices. We are not single minded trolls.

kentuck

(111,111 posts)
19. Republicans have always been better at "messaging" because...
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 03:59 PM
Jan 2018

...they usually have the corporate media behind them.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
26. Propaganda is the tool of fascists
Sat Jan 20, 2018, 08:01 PM
Jan 2018

Joseph Goebbels quote: "If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it"

GOP is very good at this.

Democrats are not Nazis.

Initech

(100,149 posts)
31. Republicans own the media and the clergy. We don't.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 06:12 PM
Jan 2018

They have half the country's local TV stations. They have a monopoly on AM radio. They have a monopoly on the clergy. What have we got that can spread that kind of message?

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