Can pass anything they want with only Republican votes from now on. Means the ACA, Social Security and Medicare can be eliminated with just 50 votes too.

Sorry for all the questions...I'm not familiar with this. I always thought the voting rules were cast in stone.

Forgotten after a few days. The media never seems to let anything stick to him. He can nuke the legislative filibuster this week and then give a SOTU that the media fawns all over next week, and this will be forgotten.

As to your question, McConnell can appeal a senate rule at any time and then eliminate it with 50 votes.

It will come back to bite them in the Ass. So far no party in power has wanted to do that because they know that once they are back in the minority they would have no power left. The rules of the senates are voted on by the senate, not cast in stone since they are not part of what is mandated by the constitution.

That was why Harry Reid never did that.

God, I hate McConnell. If Trump goes down but McConnell is left in place, we're still fucked. Just without all the drama.

Meaning they can pass legislation with a simple majority instead of the 60 vote supermajority.

Up until now it's only been used twice.

Though.

But if you just want to get yourself in a tizzy, be my guest.

the rest of you. Consider the source.

Now, Roll Call's headline is, "House GOP Has Message for Senate on Shutdown: Nuke the Filibuster." McConnell is unlikely to take this "advice," but members of the House can use this hot air to fool their constituents, in addition to venting their hard-core frustrations.

Btw, Roll Call also points out, "There are four GOP senators opposed to the current stopgap spending bill. It would take only two to block an effort to change the rules."

And, "Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows also said he doesn’t see the filibuster rules changing." Meadows is the authoritarian leader of more 30 members who basically vote as he tells them to.

On all things Congress I'll take Roll Call over daytime CNN. Heck, I'd believe Roll Call on the weather over CNN's continual drama-mongering to troll greater ratings.

Note that our positions could reverse on November 6 and McConnell be minority leader of 49 senators...

https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/house-republicans-message-senate-shutdown-deploy-nuclear-option

Then they won't even get 50 votes. It all depends. Of course, the R's that voted against the compromise will probably vote for something worse if given there chance.

So can we, later.

or Trump is being played by McConnell? I have often thought that it is McConnell is in charge. Trump just wildly gesticulates from the front seat. McConnell waits for opportunities to pull the strings, from the back.

If the GOP nukes the legislative fillibuster and then goes on the lose the senate along with the house in Nov, the Rs will have 0, zero, nada, nil power to stop anything.

To ram single payer through, legal cannabis nationwide, DACA, kill the idiot wall BS, strengthen Social Security, cut our insane military budget, claw back the welfare to billionaires Dump tax cut, help our friends greatly and punish our enemies to the MAX!!!

If and when we have a democratic President, and majorities in both houses. Trump will veto any of that even if we get victories in 2018.

anti-american HS bill he wants passed too!

He just wants a deal and since things Dems push will be popular, Trump will happily take his popularity rising as an aftereffect.

IF we even get majorities after 2018, they won't be veto proof. Either Trump or Pence will veto anything democrats want to pass.

if dems get majority after 2018 midterms, mcconnell will quickly change the rules back before the new year.

I believe you are correct News. Even the republicons who claim they disagree with Dumpster are as lacking in balls as Dump is in stability. It is only a matter of time.

Until I saw CNN blaring this headline. I’m in disgusted shock.

Why? He's done it before.
And it isn't happening.

You can relax.

rest of the world will eventually have to unite to topple the new GOP!

We’ll have the power we need to reverse all this Trump mess. Thank you Republicans.

Single payer for ALL and MJ legalization nationwide!!

Trump/Pence/whatever republican is President in 2019 will veto anything democrats pass. There is a lot of wishful thinking in this thread.

The road to repair is going to be a long hard slog. Don't expect much change until 2020.

followed by Democratic President

The current split is 51-49.

There are 34 Senate seats being voted on in November 2018. Only 8 are currently held by Republicans. So if the Democrats held every one of the 34 they currently held and won every one of the 8 seats held by republicans, the split would be 59-41, well short of the 67 needed for a "veto proof" majority.

Remember, Trump knows nothing about complex political strategies and the three dimensional chess games that both parties play. McConnell knows the game and he knows such a move would backfire and blow up in his face.

He looks at the polls and he sees the numbers, he reads the news and sees Dems raising to win in red state, and he listens to the pundits talking about a big, beautiful blue wave that might sweep him out of power or severely hamper his ability to do anything in the Senate.

Under the current conditions, McConnell would be a fool to go full nuclear just to appease a know-nothing idiot like Trump. Once enacted, if the Dems regain the Senate, he will have handed them an unprecedented gift that would then allow Dems to pass everything without any Republicans.

Has said no to this now. CNN mentioned nothing in their blaring headline this morning about McConnell and the conference saying no. Huge omission which led to panic on my part.

Anyways, the blue wave has eroded. Our congressional generic lead is now down to just 5 points. That’s enough to pick up 5 or 6 house seats and a bucket of warm spit. We need a strong victory in this shutdown fight to get those numbers back up! Hopefully red-state Dems realize that the road to a Democratic majority in November runs through us winning this fight.

so therefore, again, they will further screw the USA.

That said, I don't think that will happen.

The GOP has signalled they will never remove drumph no matter what.

The kicking out of the Dreamers. The building of the wall. Everything.

Their strategy is to blame Democrats for everything. This will not be possible with such a move. And Democrats will sweep the scum from power.

The 3rd rail is still electrified.

In November, they are anticipated to lose at least the House and maybe the Senate. Like what usually happens 2 years in to every Administration. And Congress.

The best way for them to "push back against history" is to pass into law everything they promised and stand for. To invigorate their base!

Do R's think they will be more successful negotiating with Democrats - or shoving everything they want down our throats?

What we will do to them when we get the government back.....so he's reluctant to go there.

send over hundreds of Batshit legislation and the American people will rise up against the radicals.

Everything they touch turns to slime. We will respond at the ballot box.

We have toddlers holding our government hostage right now. Its insane.

November is only 10 months away.

It's very unlikely we will get a majority in the Senate because so few Republicans are up for re-election.

Also if they can change rules and make laws at will with their simple majority they may be able to change enough to ensure that they win future elections too.

We may be in for even darker times in the future.

Taking a Trump tweet and inferring anything about Senate action is lazy speculation.

1) Trump has tweeted this before; didn’t happen

2) McConnell said today he doesn’t support it

... and for the cost of mass deportations. The blame would be for the chaos they would cause both socially and economically. Overall, their base is too small to support long term success.

I wouldn't be surprised if they actually did it. But there would be the heaviest of political prices to pay.