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Eyeball_Kid

(7,440 posts)
6. I hope that MSNBC understands that these conservatives have large audiences
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:21 AM
Jan 2018

because of the topics or news being covered. It's the times that are making the commentators relevant.

If Schmidt and Wallace and Frum were on the air and the trending topics were public policy, the programs would loose appeal and viewership because they are classical political conservatives while the main demographic for these shows leans liberal. But this is "country over party" time, and these conservatives are espousing the view that the current GOP and the Executive branch represent an existential threat to the nation. They're correct. But it also goes without saying that these conservatives are also eloquent and talented speakers who are focusing on a return to ethical principles and pride in competency.

renate

(13,776 posts)
7. I like them a lot--also Rick Wilson and David Jolley (Jolly?) and Charlie I-forget and Shep Smith
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:30 AM
Jan 2018

I've found that I can really respect Republicans who put country before party. Disagreeing with me doesn't automatically make someone evil and wrong And the sincerity with which a few Republicans stand up and call bullshit on their party is really inspiring.

Rhiannon12866

(206,853 posts)
9. He gave the best anti Trump rant that I've heard so far one time on Nicolle Wallace's show
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 03:43 AM
Jan 2018

He was also also good on Bill Maher and he does seem to be friends with Rachel Maddow. It does say a lot about how intolerable Trump is that so many long-time Republicans can't stand him.

MFM008

(19,836 posts)
12. Good point.
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 05:07 AM
Jan 2018

Doesn't Nicole Wallace make it a point
to sometimes just asked her guests
what is wrong with him?
Even they don't get it.

Rhiannon12866

(206,853 posts)
13. She's also had some epic anti Trump rants!
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 05:48 AM
Jan 2018

I wasn't thrilled with her in the beginning - as someone who worked for George Bush* - but I gained new respect for her after I learned that she refused to vote for McCain in 2008 because Sarah Palin was on the ticket!

Grammy23

(5,815 posts)
3. I figured they had tRump bound and gagged,
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:06 AM
Jan 2018

stuffed in a closet in the family living quarters. They threw him a burger now and then with a promise of KFC and two scoops of his precious ice cream if he was a good boy.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
4. Schmidt hates trump as much as we all do
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:13 AM
Jan 2018

But still, he was a part of the GOP that created the atmosphere in RW politics that allowed the idiot to become ... I just can't say it.

I don't think Schmidt is a bad guy, but his ideology is still RW bullshit. I believe part of why he hates trump is because trump is exposing the rotten and dishonest fabric of the GOP of the last 50 years.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,996 posts)
5. Schmidt was partly responsible for McCain picking Sarah Palin as his running mate
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:17 AM
Jan 2018

and I think he's doing penance for that, having realized what a disaster she really was and how she encouraged a mindset that helped make Trump possible.

JI7

(89,289 posts)
10. he called for the Republican Party to support Same Sex Marriage during Obama's first year as
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 03:51 AM
Jan 2018

President.

hibbing

(10,113 posts)
8. 2004
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 02:08 AM
Jan 2018

He was if not complicit, at least not too upset about the god awful swift boating of John Kerry, which I only recently found out about. Remember all the purple heart band aids at the convention? I thought his worst offense was unleashing Palin on us, but no. I didn't realize his sleaze went back to 2004.

I will never be a cheerleader for him regardless of what he says now, which actually isn't much of a heavy lift, sorry.

Peace

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