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Legal question: Can a former Pres. run for VP.? (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Jan 2018 OP
That's an interesting question. Vinca Jan 2018 #1
Or Michelle.....can she run of Pres? dixiegrrrrl Jan 2018 #4
of course michelle is constitutionally qualified. unblock Jan 2018 #7
No, the VP must be eligible to Pres, and he isn't marylandblue Jan 2018 #2
technically this is not correct. he is ineligible to be *elected* president a 3rd time unblock Jan 2018 #5
Yes, the Constitution says you cannot be ELECTED for a third term. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #10
I agree. The intent is there but not the words. Lochloosa Jan 2018 #11
I agree with your interpretation. SweetieD Jan 2018 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Jan 2018 #3
see reply #5. unblock Jan 2018 #6
Even if that were true, he could still be V.P. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2018 #17
LOL! Do you seriously think he'd actually want to do it? The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #8
one can dream. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2018 #22
Anyway, whatevs, it's a sweet thought! fierywoman Jan 2018 #9
Michelle would kill him. And I don't think Obama believes in going backwards. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #12
i don't think he would think of it as "going backwards" unblock Jan 2018 #14
Right now he is free. Being in office again means he is captive again. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #16
again i say here IF IT'S THERE CHOICE i'd be for it bluestarone Jan 2018 #13
Asking for a friend 😊 Dream Girl Jan 2018 #15
No he cannot. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2018 #18
It's an untested legal question with differing opinions SFnomad Jan 2018 #19
No, but a former VP can run for President meow2u3 Jan 2018 #21

Vinca

(50,329 posts)
1. That's an interesting question.
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 06:20 PM
Jan 2018

If he ended up in a third term, it wouldn't be because he was elected. I don't know, but I imagine just the thought is sending up a loud chorus of "no" at a very nice home in Washington, D.C.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
4. Or Michelle.....can she run of Pres?
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 06:29 PM
Jan 2018

or for VP? Seems more logical that it would be ok to do

wonder how many times you could have the same person running for VP,.

unblock

(52,495 posts)
7. of course michelle is constitutionally qualified.
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 06:33 PM
Jan 2018

i very much doubt she would run, though.


there is no constitutional limit on the number of times someone can be elected vice president.

unblock

(52,495 posts)
5. technically this is not correct. he is ineligible to be *elected* president a 3rd time
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 06:31 PM
Jan 2018

but he is not ineligible to become president through other means.

of course, this has never been tested, and it would seem the logical intent was to prevent him from *becoming* president again, but this is not what the constitution actually says.

Irish_Dem

(47,940 posts)
10. Yes, the Constitution says you cannot be ELECTED for a third term.
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 06:49 PM
Jan 2018

It does not say you cannot be president for a third term.

But I am not a con law expert.

Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,383 posts)
17. Even if that were true, he could still be V.P.
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 07:12 PM
Jan 2018

If the V.P. can't become the Prez, then wouldn't the Speaker of the House (Pelosi) get the job?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
22. one can dream.
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 08:14 PM
Jan 2018

Given how much crap has to swept up following Trump's illegal occupation, it would have a lot of benefits.
I also think Biden would not be against being teamed again with Obama. They both strike me as patriots.

OTOH, it could be a neg. precedent...goose and gander and all that.

Irish_Dem

(47,940 posts)
12. Michelle would kill him. And I don't think Obama believes in going backwards.
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 06:51 PM
Jan 2018

Michelle would also kill Biden for even suggesting such a thing.

Obama has been very happy that life in the WH did not damage his marriage
or children and I don't think he wants to push his luck.

unblock

(52,495 posts)
14. i don't think he would think of it as "going backwards"
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 06:56 PM
Jan 2018

i think he would think of it as continuing to work in the service of the nation.

in fact i think he would be quite tickled to be vice-president with biden as president.


that said, i agree with your other points. he's in a position to write his own ticket; that's not something people easily give up.

Irish_Dem

(47,940 posts)
16. Right now he is free. Being in office again means he is captive again.
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 07:08 PM
Jan 2018

I don't think he or Michelle want that.

I do think Obama is a dedicated public servant, but being no 2 after being the most powerful man on the planet, will be awkward. And in a work situation, it is not easy for a No 1 and No 2 to switch roles.

While I think he would enjoy working with Biden again, it is not fair to Biden.
If Biden is elected president, it is Biden's time to shine and have the limelight.
Not Obama's, and given how beloved and popular Obama is that would be a danger.

Also Obama is not the kind of guy who challenges the rules or wants a presidential ticket to be challenged as illegitimate right out of the gate. I think he has had a belly full of being called illegitimate and fraudulent.

While I think it is really fun to think about a Biden/Obama ticket, and I would personally love to see it, just doesn't fit with Obama's style or personality.

My .02.

bluestarone

(17,122 posts)
13. again i say here IF IT'S THERE CHOICE i'd be for it
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 06:55 PM
Jan 2018

Man it would be very interesting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! look what the hell we're going through now

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
19. It's an untested legal question with differing opinions
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 07:28 PM
Jan 2018

The Twelfth Amendment states ....

But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.


Some believe that between the 22nd Amendment and the 12th Amendment a former 2 term President would not be eligible to be Vice President. And these people typically believe that person wouldn't be eligible anywhere from the line of succession (Speaker of the House, etc.)

Others believe that the 12th Amendment is about qualifications for service (meaning age, etc), not qualifications for election. They typically believe that person could become President from the VP position or anywhere from the line of succession.

The question won't be definitively answered until it goes to the Supreme Court.

meow2u3

(24,776 posts)
21. No, but a former VP can run for President
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 07:35 PM
Jan 2018

Former two-term Presidents are ineligible, but former veeps can run for President, provided he never was sworn in as President, or was President for one term only.

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