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kentuck

(111,111 posts)
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 02:47 PM Jan 2018

"Yeah, I obstructed! So what! When I am attacked, I fight back."

That seems to be Donald Trump's latest argument?

As if, "I fight back" is a legitimate argument for obstructing justice? When he publicly tweets and shamelessly attacks our Justice Department and our FBI. And when he gets his Atty General and assorted Congressmen to do his dirty work in private. And when he demands loyalty from the leaders of our Justice Department, and cover for any possible illegalities, it is not just "fighting back". It is flaunting the law and making a mockery of justice.

When he interferes in any way with a legal investigation, it is obstruction. In our country, up to this point, no one is above the law. We will soon discover if that includes Donald J Trump?

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"Yeah, I obstructed! So what! When I am attacked, I fight back." (Original Post) kentuck Jan 2018 OP
Nailed it! Freethinker65 Jan 2018 #1
He can't seem to stop confessing to crimes. lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #2
I don't think so PJMcK Jan 2018 #5
Well, I was a bit tongue-in-cheek. lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #7
Despicable Disposable Deplorables! PJMcK Jan 2018 #10
I knew ya got it. lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #11
You know, I hope he keeps saying that. louis-t Jan 2018 #13
call it what is the crime Marthe48 Jan 2018 #28
I believe he and his family think lapfog_1 Jan 2018 #3
Trumpy seems to only have two dance moves... FM123 Jan 2018 #4
Is that really his quote in the OP?? B2G Jan 2018 #6
It is paraphasing his comments yesterday to the press... kentuck Jan 2018 #8
About when "he fights back" Stuart G Jan 2018 #14
It's like.... kentuck Jan 2018 #18
Bingo..That is it..!!!!! You made it simple and clear. Easy for all to understand..!!!! Stuart G Jan 2018 #19
Will Trump ever realize he's not in the 5th grade any more? 👀 nt procon Jan 2018 #9
Maybe some day, but not today....Hell I don't know, and Stuart G Jan 2018 #16
Oh, then it's ok. louis-t Jan 2018 #12
Are all of these folks on some type of drugs? Iliyah Jan 2018 #15
Trump reminds me of those scenes from crime dramas tymorial Jan 2018 #17
That would be so awesome if he actually said that in the interview with Mueller. robertpaulsen Jan 2018 #20
Powerful!! gristy Jan 2018 #35
How can anybody defend this lawless fuck? CanonRay Jan 2018 #21
He assumes lying and smearing people is "fighting back". Ken Burch Jan 2018 #22
It's a small tool box, but it's all he's got. dchill Jan 2018 #25
Yeah...although I do have to ask... Ken Burch Jan 2018 #27
Um, no. But I see how you'd think that. dchill Jan 2018 #30
In any case...well-played... Ken Burch Jan 2018 #31
His dad had to send him to military school. dchill Jan 2018 #23
"I was told explicitly that IOKIYAR" ProudLib72 Jan 2018 #24
Trump Gives Himself Away dlk Jan 2018 #26
trump and his base want to be 'outlaws' because so cool. Marthe48 Jan 2018 #29
Sounds to me like he's trying to create a violent rallying cry. C Moon Jan 2018 #32
I fought the law back once in my youth askyagerz Jan 2018 #33
This is called a confession in the legal world Gothmog Jan 2018 #34

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
2. He can't seem to stop confessing to crimes.
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 02:49 PM
Jan 2018

It must be a little bit depressing for Mueller to be investigating such an easy target.

PJMcK

(22,074 posts)
5. I don't think so
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 02:54 PM
Jan 2018

Although I get your point, I don't think the investigators are depressed. Robert Mueller and his team must be appalled, shocked and disgusted by the breadth of malfeasance they are discovering. I just hope it all comes out, the Russians are exposed and the GOP abetters are all charged.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
7. Well, I was a bit tongue-in-cheek.
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 02:58 PM
Jan 2018

I just meant "Such an easy target, where's the challenge in that?" But of course there is a lot that's not easy here; the main problem being that the RePutin party is dumbing down the American public to the point where the very concept of crime is vague in the minds of the Despicable Disposable Deplorables.

PJMcK

(22,074 posts)
10. Despicable Disposable Deplorables!
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 03:06 PM
Jan 2018

Wonderful alliteration! I might add Disgusting Dumbass Douchebags that are Dangerous.

To be clear, I kind of laughed at your previous post, lagomorph777. I've also thought that going after Trump is like shooting fish in the barrel.

I think the biggest challenge Mr. Mueller faces is articulating the specific crimes Trump & Co. have committed. For example, there isn't a crime called collusion. In fact, it may be that there won't be any charges regarding the Russians. After all, Manafort and Gates are charged with financial crimes. Flynn and Papadopolous pled to lying to the FBI. Trump's finances are ripe for investigating. Perhaps that's where the investigation will go.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
11. I knew ya got it.
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 03:11 PM
Jan 2018


And right, "No collusion!" is a pointless slogan because collusion has no legal meaning. He might be more to the point to say "No money laundering!" "No lifted sanctions for stolen data!" - but that would be cutting it a bit close...

louis-t

(23,315 posts)
13. You know, I hope he keeps saying that.
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 03:17 PM
Jan 2018

When the charges are money laundering and obstruction, witness tampering, and treason, he will be proved right.

lapfog_1

(29,243 posts)
3. I believe he and his family think
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 02:52 PM
Jan 2018

that they have been put in charge of a large private corporation and that as the new owners, they can hire and fire anyone who isn't loyal to the new owners and that, much like Trump Inc., they can break any law so long as they get away with it ( only NOW the people that would stop them ARE part of the company they took over )

So it is anything goes.

kentuck

(111,111 posts)
8. It is paraphasing his comments yesterday to the press...
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 02:58 PM
Jan 2018

About when he "fights back" they call it "obstruction".

So, to me, that seems to be his argument.

Stuart G

(38,458 posts)
14. About when "he fights back"
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 03:22 PM
Jan 2018

Yes, that is his argument, I agree with you.

And he can use that as much as he likes/wants. But, if that action is against the "law"..which many of us think it is, then Mueller and his team will indict him. That team knows a whole lot about people who ..have broken the law in a "HUGE" number of ways, some obvious, and some ways not so obvious.

In fact, Mueller's team maybe be just as good at going against those who "break the law" as Trump and his group are at lying. Further, Mueller's team might, just might, have more "integrity" at dealing with the "law" than Trump's group.

But I am not the judge here. And there will be a judge if Trump is indicted. What a show..!!! time for


kentuck

(111,111 posts)
18. It's like....
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 03:28 PM
Jan 2018

"Yeah, I robbed the bank and they tried to block my getaway car ... It's a free country....I have a right to go wherever I want..."

Stuart G

(38,458 posts)
16. Maybe some day, but not today....Hell I don't know, and
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 03:25 PM
Jan 2018

I believe that Mr Donald Trump is not in good shape to know...

He may think that he really is in 4th grade, not 5th...

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
15. Are all of these folks on some type of drugs?
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 03:22 PM
Jan 2018

My gawd. You have Mnnnn, Nikiiiiii, well t-rump is stupid anyways, but gosh.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
17. Trump reminds me of those scenes from crime dramas
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 03:26 PM
Jan 2018

Where the suspect just cannot take his/her lawyers advice and shut up. They sit there sinking themselves while the lawyer just sits back exasperated.

robertpaulsen

(8,632 posts)
20. That would be so awesome if he actually said that in the interview with Mueller.
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 03:52 PM
Jan 2018

Mueller would just sit there silently, then maybe wrap things up saying, "I appreciate your candor in this matter."

Meanwhile, the rest of the sane universe would have the same reaction as Michael Clayton: "You're so fucked!"

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
27. Yeah...although I do have to ask...
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 04:55 PM
Jan 2018

...had you been hoping the chance to use the words "small tool" in this context?...

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
24. "I was told explicitly that IOKIYAR"
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 04:43 PM
Jan 2018

The thing is, all the rethugs enable/encourage this sort of thinking.

Marthe48

(17,129 posts)
29. trump and his base want to be 'outlaws' because so cool.
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 05:19 PM
Jan 2018

tripe refuses to understand that he isn't above the law. His base are the ones that hunt out of season, drink and drive, have the illegal smoke stacks on their trucks, run stop signs, and on and on, because they live so POd about everything, that watching trump breaking laws is better than kicking their dog.

askyagerz

(776 posts)
33. I fought the law back once in my youth
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 05:47 PM
Jan 2018

A cop shoved me from behind so I tried to take all of them on. Probably wasn't might brightest drunken idea. Let's hope Trump will get to wake up in a jail cell too someday

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