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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 04:43 PM Jan 2018

Is banishment from the public square always appropriate punishment for bad sexual actors ?

Or should banishment be a function on the number of offenses and severity of them ?

I tend to lean toward the latter. Compassion is part and parcel of justice.

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Is banishment from the public square always appropriate punishment for bad sexual actors ? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2018 OP
No, sometimes banishment from society is more appropriate. moriah Jan 2018 #1
No. EffieBlack Jan 2018 #2
I feel like I'm missing some context here. linuxman Jan 2018 #3
I'm still pissed about Franken, so my answer should be obvious--Yes there is a scale of severity hlthe2b Jan 2018 #4
What Franken and Aziz Ansari did deserves an apology and some introspection. IluvPitties Jan 2018 #5
Harassment outside the workplace and especially in your own apartment Sophia4 Jan 2018 #11
i agree... samnsara Jan 2018 #6
That depends on multiple factors mythology Jan 2018 #7
I would not advocate for permanent exile from any workplace, but the onus Sophia4 Jan 2018 #10
There is a scale. Low level harassment might not MaryMagdaline Jan 2018 #8
The person who commits sexual harassment should pay the price immediately. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #9

moriah

(8,311 posts)
1. No, sometimes banishment from society is more appropriate.
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 04:48 PM
Jan 2018

If the severity is that of exceeding the bounds of laws.

The length of time of this banishment would depend on the severity and if it was repeated, yes.

Simple answer.

hlthe2b

(102,562 posts)
4. I'm still pissed about Franken, so my answer should be obvious--Yes there is a scale of severity
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 05:07 PM
Jan 2018

and the consequences should at least correlate with such...

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
5. What Franken and Aziz Ansari did deserves an apology and some introspection.
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 05:13 PM
Jan 2018

Larry Nassar, Bill Cosby and Weinstein, for example, deserve to be locked up- for life. They are sick rapists and menaces to society.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
11. Harassment outside the workplace and especially in your own apartment
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 05:32 PM
Jan 2018

is an entirely different matter from harassment in the workplace.

Women beware of men who hardly know you and invite you into their apartment.

In the workplace, harassment should be stopped, and harassers should be "inconvenienced" by having to find another job, not the harassed.

And this should be such a standard procedure in all workplaces that harassment in the workplace virtually ends.

If a woman agrees to go to a man's room or apartment, she is not necessarily agreeing to sexual contact, but she should make her views clear before she goes. I know that is hard for young women, but it is a good idea to just talk about things openly. I know I am not entirely realistic in writing this. But, if possible . . . .

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
7. That depends on multiple factors
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 05:21 PM
Jan 2018

Partially the severity of the crime. Jared Fogle and Larry Nassar can rot in prison. Also contrition and making a real effort to change behavior.

I'm also okay with holding high level people to a higher standard. Police, politicians, teachers etc, need to be above reproach.

But I also understand the stuff goes on up and down the economy. If everyone who committed sexual harassment was permanently exiled, that's a lot of guys who can't get jobs.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
10. I would not advocate for permanent exile from any workplace, but the onus
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 05:28 PM
Jan 2018

of finding a new job should be on the harasser, not on the harassed.

MaryMagdaline

(6,859 posts)
8. There is a scale. Low level harassment might not
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 05:22 PM
Jan 2018

Get you banished but if there are lots of low level incidents, it might add up to incorrigible and you have to go. First low level incident: no

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
9. The person who commits sexual harassment should pay the price immediately.
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 05:27 PM
Jan 2018

In most cases that I know about, the victim of sexual harassment gets paid a sum of money and loses her job. That's been what I have seen. My experience is limited, but I bet it's the most common result.

Not fair.

The harasser should pay the price and if that is losing his/her job, it should not be the victim who loses her/his job.

This is an equality issue. Usually but not always the harasser is the person in the higher position in the workplace, and he (usually but not always a he) harasses his subordinate female. And the woman, the female pays the price. Her career or job is placed in jeopardy and often, usually lost.

Harassment in the workplace is more about power than sex or gender. And that is why the harasser should be removed from the workplace if not for harassment, for abuse of power.

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