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dalton99a
(81,708 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)You got it!
Initech
(100,149 posts)And they are all coming down! I mean shit, that weasel Ron Paul was on fucking Russian State TV telling the hosts that Donald Trump is theirs again! I mean if that's not proof of collusion than what is??? It's almost like they're *TRYING* to get caught!
dchill
(38,626 posts)The Rublepublican Party. Paul Ryan, Chairman.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)On Nunes and his ties to Armenian organized crime, which is tied to Russian organized crime..
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210168287
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)Wow, @DevinNunes is now in unapologetic open warfare with the FBI and federal law enforcement. Let's see where that leads him.
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tanyev
(42,677 posts)WhiteTara
(29,736 posts)(sorry it was 4:30am...I was waiting for the eclipse, so I have no idea where to find it on DU) that showed he was in bed with the Armenian mob along with the Russian mob and the Putin circle. If I understand correctly, he was unmasked in an FBI sting on some Russian mobster.
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)It's so hard to keep all of these damn characters and their illegal activities straight.
WhiteTara
(29,736 posts)Because of the odd hour, I didn't quite understand about the partner...it sounded like the first one died mysteriously and then he got this new one? I'll have to try and find that, but I may have to wait until tomorrow since I didn't go back to bed after the eclipse.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)One year ago, I would have mocked the implication. One year later, I'm crossing my fingers it's not true. What a difference a year makes.
Not because I want Nunes to be innocent, mind you... but because if it true, it's the tip of an awfully ugly, awfully large iceberg that could consume our national identity for the next twenty years.
WhiteTara
(29,736 posts)I fear we will become a Russian satellite with a dictator firmly in place.
TheFrenchRazor
(2,116 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)You do realize Russia is a pissant, underdeveloped, mostly impoverished country with an economy about the size of California's? It makes and sells a lot of weapons, but otherwise it has little industry, and most income is from exporting commodities to more advanced nations for manufacturing by them.
As for "consuming our national identity," that is a product of centuries and a product of our people who live today, and it can't just be destroyed. Real damage is being done to institutions and standards developed over more than 200 years, but our national identity is what will help restore them.
The tremendous betrayals today guarantee big societal reactions. Itm, maybe you could look inside yourself for facets of that national identity you value and commit to upholding them? That would be a good personal reaction.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,672 posts)He has a winery with a Russian, money in Cypress, and some communications deal in the Azores and the Russians wanted to get into that area too. Too many Russian ties. Did he really think no one would question his behavior? He is another moron along with Ryan for telling him to release it. Remember when Rosenstein and Ryan and Nunes had a special meeting a month ago? Russia is blackmailing them both. Ryan took Russian campaign money and he may have been caught in surveillance by the FBI when they were trying to keep track of Russian activity and Ryan was unaware of it and probably is trying to save his own ass now.
WhiteTara
(29,736 posts)dchill
(38,626 posts)"He's bouncing around like spit on a griddle."
Ilsa
(61,717 posts)on this also: "Cyprus."
BigmanPigman
(51,672 posts)I don't know if it is me or my retarded tablet autocheck that actually makes incorrect spelling, caps, and punct all the time and I have to edit everything 3 times. This happens with a lot of people with tablets.
dhol82
(9,353 posts)Damn, the man is complicit in collusion against this country!
Makes you sick, doesn't it? It does me.
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)dalton99a
(81,708 posts)And he wasn't chosen at random
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)dalton99a
(81,708 posts)when Nunes went to the White House
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)meadowlander
(4,413 posts)leanforward
(1,077 posts)Does Nunes have an ownership in a winery? I read somewhere that a California representative changed a financial report/statement when questioned about a russian investment in that winery. Something to do with marketing.
Has he made any trips to Russia or elsewhere in the world on the pretext of wine marketing?
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)WhiteTara
(29,736 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Congrats, dude: U just waived Congressional immunity.
Yeeehaw!!
GeorgeGist
(25,327 posts)I can smell it from here.
Gothmog
(145,965 posts)ffr
(22,681 posts)All conservatives are corrupt!
uponit7771
(90,371 posts)... caught up too !
LiberalArkie
(15,739 posts)from Russian investors. But the candidate gets his check cut from an American company. "Let's bring back Tammany Hall, LLC"
BobTheSubgenius
(11,580 posts)In the case of the latter, the privilege is voided by the presence of a third party. Is it then that people in Congress, or their immediate employees, are the only ones covered by this immunity?
BobTheSubgenius
(11,580 posts)It "appears" that what I surmised has some legs, although it's not a sure thing. According to former WH ethics counsel Norm Eisen:
"The Congressional Immunity law states that members of the U.S. Congress can not be prosecuted while they are attending a session of the body to which the member belongs, excluding an arrest for treason, breach of the peace, or a felony.
The law also provides immunity from arrest or interrogation for any speech or debate entered into during a legislative session.
Neither of those provisions would seem to apply to members working with another branch of government to obstruct justice.
The Wizard
(12,556 posts)We have Russian agents in the ranks of government. Only this time it in the hierarchy of the GOP. The term Siberian Candidate used to be a laugh line. Not anymore.
triron
(22,031 posts)Cicada
(4,533 posts)This is good old fashioned politics and a prosecutor isnt likely to go after that. Politics is what politicians do. Indicting Nunes would be like indicting a cat for killing a mouse. Its what cats do.
meadowlander
(4,413 posts)to derail an active counter-intelligence investigation isn't "good old fashioned politics". It is obstruction of justice.
Trying to normalise it is giving aide to the enemy.
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meadowlander
(4,413 posts)No? Then I think it is "that different". Believe it or not a congressperson who has been given access to classified sensitive information that can lead to people being killed if it gets out is held to a slightly higher standard that the average Joe Schlub on the street. You also haven't taken an oath to defend the Constitution and you don't have a security clearance.
And so... you would obviously prefer the alternative to indicting the President, which is allowing Russian puppet leaders to dismantle our democratic institutions? That isn't "fantastically horrible for democracy"?
Skittles
(153,310 posts)fuck that shit
Cicada
(4,533 posts)What Nunes does is normal. See Benghazi crap.
Skittles
(153,310 posts)Cicada
(4,533 posts)This time they lie the other way, forgiving them instead of persecuting them. This does not come as a surprise to me.
DONE HERE
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)There is a line between cynic (me) and aiding and abetting the Putin propaganda machine. The test of a critical thinker, imo, is wading the waters looking for the gem in the jetsam and flotsam.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)We constantly invade nations and kill countless people. We have invaded dozens of nations and keep doing it. Our national security apparatus lies to us at every turn. We and Europe have constantly lied about Russia even though Russia also happens to be evil. They suck and we suck too. So a politician lying about Russia to help Trump does not strike me as outside the normal bounds of our political norms. It is just more of the same. Even tho Putin is an evil murderous creep. Was Cheney any better really?
dhol82
(9,353 posts)Play with dogs, wake up maybe.
moondust
(20,027 posts)I'm beginning to wonder if the GOP cabal has concluded that they only have two options:
1. Stop Mueller's investigation.
2. Go to prison, possibly for a long time.
Mike Niendorff
(3,463 posts)Now you're catching on.
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