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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMichelle Wolf: 'It's weird that Trump doesn't have a sense of humour' - good read
https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2018/jun/01/michelle-wolf-its-weird-that-trump-doesnt-have-a-sense-of-humour<snip>
Like many people in Britain, Id never seen Wolf before she got to her feet in Washington and caused a global sensation. We meet three weeks later, in the New York offices of Netflix. If her comic persona is mildly awkward, in person she is unexpectedly glamorous a sleek, feline column of New York sass topped with a corkscrew mane, more Debra Messing than the grownup orphan Annie character Wolf used to play for Seth Meyers. The cartoonish voice is unmistakable, however, simultaneously shrill and rasping. She had a joke in her HBO routine about inhaling helium only to discover her voice remained entirely unaltered, but apparently this was absolutely true.
Wolfs self-image seems to be firmly that of an outsider. She doesnt have political friends in Washington, or inhabit the paparazzi-ed world of public celebrity; her social circle consists chiefly of New York comedians, such as Dan Soder, and revolves around work. There is no boyfriend, her name does not trouble the gossip columns, and there is nothing elite about her biography. Likewise, there was nothing cosy or clubbable about Wolfs correspondents speech, so I wonder whether she worries about humour creating a comfortable illusion of subversion, while actually functioning as a safety valve. By laughing at Trump, are we enabling him?
We keep tuning in to everything outrageous thats happening. Were not watching the news but a show
I think theres never a bad time to make a joke. She laughs mischievously. I mean, there are definitely times where Im like, I know I shouldnt make a joke right now, but Im going to remember this joke I have and tell it to my friend later. You know, when someone just said something really sad and youre like, Im going to comfort them as a person but later Im going to tell them the joke that this made me think of. So I dont think its weird that were making jokes. I think its weird that Trump doesnt have a sense of humour. Its so alarming never to see someone laugh. It makes me feel sad for him. Just have a go at it! But I just dont think he would understand a joke.
So its fine for us to laugh, and its fine to make jokes and stuff. But also: vote, you know? Remember why we got into this, and how we can get out of it.
Chemisse
(30,825 posts)Because that is just how he is, I never know whether to click 'like' (because I like that it was posted), laugh, angry or sad, because I feel all those things.
And if enough people responded, all four have been used.
Laughter is great for enabling us to survive this emotionally, but we can't just block out the anger and the pain and live in a happy bubble when the world is crumbling around us.
These are hard times.
malaise
(269,340 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)tavernier
(12,429 posts)The paper towel tosser.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)fine combination when opposing greedy, sexist, racist white male oppression. I love her destroying the self love of these clowns in power... speaks truth to power, unflinchingly.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)and revel in my enjoyment of her lambasting the people of the current administration AND WH staff, especially the news spokesperson. Speaks Truth to power. Then I get sad again. November 2018, I hope is the beginnings of the shutting down of power now in the hands of depraved, unprincipled, repugnant people with a licentious, evil and wicked potus. I still think he beat up melania badly and that's why she is out of the public eye.
GOTV
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,087 posts)But in truth, when they laugh at others, it is a kind of humorless laugh, accompanied by sneers and derision and vile hatred.
dalton99a
(81,708 posts)JI7
(89,289 posts)someone who would be or end up in such a position as his.
politicians from both parties have been hit hard but they are able to laugh at themselves through most of it. and even in cases where it might "cross a line" they usually wont be angry but more uncomfortable.
but Trump was raging mad when Obama and seth meyers joked about him. you can see how angry he was.
compare that to other people . maybe they might shake their heads and roll their eyes or something but not the pissed off seething mad reaction that he had.
and we have seen it other times also .
The Wizard
(12,556 posts)because they don't get the jokes. The hubbub over Michelle Wolf's WHCD bit was that she called out Huckabee Sanders for lying and the media for going along with the lies, both facts challenge the elites. These are indeed dark times. Like many others, laughter helped me survive Vietnam and the subsequent years following the war. At some point the laughter stops and we have to get serious about addressing the issues at hand.
The best ways to reignite The Enlightenment the Repubics have marginalized is to encourage education (free four years of college tuition) and vote the bastards out of office.
ck4829
(35,096 posts)Marcuse
(7,563 posts)billh58
(6,635 posts)a Republican with a sense of humor.
alterfurz
(2,476 posts)...they have a mean streak, and think that is the same thing."
CatMor
(6,212 posts)trump is lacking in the intelligent part.
Texin
(2,600 posts)Of course, the "joke" is always at someone else's expense. Any joke made in which he's the butt of is unforgivable. I believe deep down that the only reason (aside from the potential to strip the financial coffers of the U.S. treasury) he even ran for this office was to "show" President Obama he could be do better and as payback for the press correspondents' roast a few years back.
Gothmog
(146,005 posts)TeamPooka
(24,305 posts)They just don't get them.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 3, 2018, 02:04 PM - Edit history (1)
trump completely loses it in public - red faced, bellowing, ranting, and spitting - all to be captured on camera in living color as they drag him away and put him in a padded wagon! You KNOW it's coming...that day that he's totally off the rails and nothing or no-one can hold him back. Perhaps the day they take away his bottom hamburger bun? LOL
ThoughtCriminal
(14,057 posts)Humor should comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.
But right-wingers think that liberals are humorless because we don't like their sexist, racist, bigoted "Jokes".
jimlup
(7,968 posts)I mean he's on the spectrum of autism.
Seriously, and I've never heard anyone say this.
malaise
(269,340 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 3, 2018, 05:54 AM - Edit history (1)
but I think he's a fugging lunatic on steroids. I also think he's been out of control for most of his life.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)that would be a characteristic of someone with Autism spectrum disorder.
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/autism-spectrum-disorders-asd/index.shtml
I learn a lot on DU
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,930 posts)Nothing at all like someone with autism, and it's insulting to suggest that.
He's a narcissist, pure and simple. He glories in bullying people. Autistic people aren't bullies.
pansypoo53219
(21,013 posts)John1956PA
(2,680 posts)From http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/375258-trump-jokes-about-bald-spot-at-cpac :
What a nice picture that is, look at that, Trump said. I would love to watch that guy speak. Oh, boy. Oh, I try like hell to hide that bald spot, folks. I work hard at it.
Trump turned around as the audience laughed and combed his hair with his hand.
Doesn't look bad, he said. Hey, we're hanging in. We're hanging in.
I recall watching a TV clip of his comment at the time.
He may not have a highly developed sense of humor, but he shows the rudiments of one, usually only when it serves his self-promotional interests.
malaise
(269,340 posts)the bald head had been publicly exposed when he was climbing the aircraft stairs.
VOX
(22,976 posts)They LOVE fried chicken, watermelon and welfare jokes. Or one about how all liberals have a mental disorder. Or mimicking a disabled person. Or anything derogatory about Muslims.
*Everything* they find funny is cruel and at the expense of someone else (read: not white and Christian).
raccoon
(31,136 posts)hysterically funny to hear of someone else being beaten or spanked.