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malaise

(269,340 posts)
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 06:59 AM Jun 2018

Michelle Wolf: 'It's weird that Trump doesn't have a sense of humour' - good read

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2018/jun/01/michelle-wolf-its-weird-that-trump-doesnt-have-a-sense-of-humour
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Like many people in Britain, I’d never seen Wolf before she got to her feet in Washington and caused a global sensation. We meet three weeks later, in the New York offices of Netflix. If her comic persona is mildly awkward, in person she is unexpectedly glamorous – a sleek, feline column of New York sass topped with a corkscrew mane, more Debra Messing than the “grownup orphan Annie” character Wolf used to play for Seth Meyers. The cartoonish voice is unmistakable, however, simultaneously shrill and rasping. She had a joke in her HBO routine about inhaling helium only to discover her voice remained entirely unaltered, but apparently this was absolutely true.

Wolf’s self-image seems to be firmly that of an outsider. She doesn’t have political friends in Washington, or inhabit the paparazzi-ed world of public celebrity; her social circle consists chiefly of New York comedians, such as Dan Soder, and revolves around work. There is no boyfriend, her name does not trouble the gossip columns, and there is nothing elite about her biography. Likewise, there was nothing cosy or clubbable about Wolf’s correspondents’ speech, so I wonder whether she worries about humour creating a comfortable illusion of subversion, while actually functioning as a safety valve. By laughing at Trump, are we enabling him?

We keep tuning in to everything outrageous that’s happening. We’re not watching the news but a show

“I think there’s never a bad time to make a joke.” She laughs mischievously. “I mean, there are definitely times where I’m like, I know I shouldn’t make a joke right now, but I’m going to remember this joke I have and tell it to my friend later. You know, when someone just said something really sad and you’re like, I’m going to comfort them as a person – but later I’m going to tell them the joke that this made me think of. So I don’t think it’s weird that we’re making jokes. I think it’s weird that Trump doesn’t have a sense of humour. It’s so alarming never to see someone laugh. It makes me feel sad for him. Just have a go at it! But I just don’t think he would understand a joke.

“So it’s fine for us to laugh, and it’s fine to make jokes and stuff. But also: vote, you know? Remember why we got into this, and how we can get out of it.”
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Michelle Wolf: 'It's weird that Trump doesn't have a sense of humour' - good read (Original Post) malaise Jun 2018 OP
When people post memes about Trump on Facebook, which are always ghastly, ludicrous, and hateful, Chemisse Jun 2018 #1
Very hard times malaise Jun 2018 #3
republican family-values role model Dirty Donny* is a sad & dangerous clown Achilleaze Jun 2018 #2
SPARKLES the CLOWN. tavernier Jun 2018 #10
courageous and outrageous heaven05 Jun 2018 #4
periodically I return to 'the dinner' heaven05 Jun 2018 #5
Narcissistic personality have a sense of humor?....not a chance beachbum bob Jun 2018 #6
They laugh at other lots; not so much with others; never at themselves. No introspection or empathy. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #9
Not just dour and humorless. He is abhorrent and evil. dalton99a Jun 2018 #7
his reaction at the Obama/Seth Myers Correspondents Dinner was kind of scary for JI7 Jun 2018 #8
+1,000 malaise Jun 2018 #16
Trump appeals to the poorly educated The Wizard Jun 2018 #11
Trump tells it like it is... He doesn't want to hear it like it is ck4829 Jun 2018 #12
Trump Roast - A Blast From The Past Marcuse Jun 2018 #13
I have never met billh58 Jun 2018 #14
"Republicans don't have a sense of humor... alterfurz Jun 2018 #19
You have to be intelligent to have a sense of humor... CatMor Jun 2018 #15
Oh, cretins like tRump think they're hilarious. Texin Jun 2018 #17
Trump is too stupid to have a sense of humor Gothmog Jun 2018 #18
Two pillars of humor, sarcasm & irony, are lost on most Republicans I have met in my life. TeamPooka Jun 2018 #20
I'm looking forward to the day Totally Tunsie Jun 2018 #21
Why Republicans suck at humor ThoughtCriminal Jun 2018 #22
I think something about Trump's personality is disordered jimlup Jun 2018 #23
I'm no expert on medical stuff malaise Jun 2018 #24
Yes exactly my point... jimlup Jun 2018 #25
Thanks malaise Jun 2018 #26
No. He is not at all like anyone on the spectrum. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2018 #32
being a joke is as good as he gets. sadly he is a bad joke. pansypoo53219 Jun 2018 #27
In February, he joked about his partial baldness and his efforts to hide it. John1956PA Jun 2018 #28
No - that was yet another cover up because malaise Jun 2018 #29
Right-wing "humor" is lowbrow; it's limited to racism, sexism, and making fun of the less fortunate. VOX Jun 2018 #30
Well said malaise Jun 2018 #31
Right. To me, another litmus test of a right-winger is if s/he finds it raccoon Jun 2018 #34
... because his hair stylist and tailor sure do. Mc Mike Jun 2018 #33
That was a good read ismnotwasm Jun 2018 #35

Chemisse

(30,825 posts)
1. When people post memes about Trump on Facebook, which are always ghastly, ludicrous, and hateful,
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 07:13 AM
Jun 2018

Because that is just how he is, I never know whether to click 'like' (because I like that it was posted), laugh, angry or sad, because I feel all those things.

And if enough people responded, all four have been used.

Laughter is great for enabling us to survive this emotionally, but we can't just block out the anger and the pain and live in a happy bubble when the world is crumbling around us.

These are hard times.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
2. republican family-values role model Dirty Donny* is a sad & dangerous clown
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 07:14 AM
Jun 2018
* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
4. courageous and outrageous
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 07:26 AM
Jun 2018

fine combination when opposing greedy, sexist, racist white male oppression. I love her destroying the self love of these clowns in power... speaks truth to power, unflinchingly.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
5. periodically I return to 'the dinner'
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 07:36 AM
Jun 2018

and revel in my enjoyment of her lambasting the people of the current administration AND WH staff, especially the news spokesperson. Speaks Truth to power. Then I get sad again. November 2018, I hope is the beginnings of the shutting down of power now in the hands of depraved, unprincipled, repugnant people with a licentious, evil and wicked potus. I still think he beat up melania badly and that's why she is out of the public eye.

GOTV

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,087 posts)
9. They laugh at other lots; not so much with others; never at themselves. No introspection or empathy.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 07:58 AM
Jun 2018

But in truth, when they laugh at others, it is a kind of humorless laugh, accompanied by sneers and derision and vile hatred.

JI7

(89,289 posts)
8. his reaction at the Obama/Seth Myers Correspondents Dinner was kind of scary for
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 07:58 AM
Jun 2018

someone who would be or end up in such a position as his.

politicians from both parties have been hit hard but they are able to laugh at themselves through most of it. and even in cases where it might "cross a line" they usually wont be angry but more uncomfortable.

but Trump was raging mad when Obama and seth meyers joked about him. you can see how angry he was.

compare that to other people . maybe they might shake their heads and roll their eyes or something but not the pissed off seething mad reaction that he had.

and we have seen it other times also .

The Wizard

(12,556 posts)
11. Trump appeals to the poorly educated
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 08:21 AM
Jun 2018

because they don't get the jokes. The hubbub over Michelle Wolf's WHCD bit was that she called out Huckabee Sanders for lying and the media for going along with the lies, both facts challenge the elites. These are indeed dark times. Like many others, laughter helped me survive Vietnam and the subsequent years following the war. At some point the laughter stops and we have to get serious about addressing the issues at hand.
The best ways to reignite The Enlightenment the Repubics have marginalized is to encourage education (free four years of college tuition) and vote the bastards out of office.

alterfurz

(2,476 posts)
19. "Republicans don't have a sense of humor...
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 06:30 PM
Jun 2018

...they have a mean streak, and think that is the same thing."

Texin

(2,600 posts)
17. Oh, cretins like tRump think they're hilarious.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 10:06 AM
Jun 2018

Of course, the "joke" is always at someone else's expense. Any joke made in which he's the butt of is unforgivable. I believe deep down that the only reason (aside from the potential to strip the financial coffers of the U.S. treasury) he even ran for this office was to "show" President Obama he could be do better and as payback for the press correspondents' roast a few years back.

TeamPooka

(24,305 posts)
20. Two pillars of humor, sarcasm & irony, are lost on most Republicans I have met in my life.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 07:23 PM
Jun 2018

They just don't get them.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
21. I'm looking forward to the day
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 07:49 PM
Jun 2018

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trump completely loses it in public - red faced, bellowing, ranting, and spitting - all to be captured on camera in living color as they drag him away and put him in a padded wagon! You KNOW it's coming...that day that he's totally off the rails and nothing or no-one can hold him back. Perhaps the day they take away his bottom hamburger bun? LOL

ThoughtCriminal

(14,057 posts)
22. Why Republicans suck at humor
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 07:55 PM
Jun 2018

Humor should comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.

But right-wingers think that liberals are humorless because we don't like their sexist, racist, bigoted "Jokes".

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
23. I think something about Trump's personality is disordered
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 11:14 PM
Jun 2018

I mean he's on the spectrum of autism.

Seriously, and I've never heard anyone say this.

malaise

(269,340 posts)
24. I'm no expert on medical stuff
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 05:00 AM
Jun 2018

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but I think he's a fugging lunatic on steroids. I also think he's been out of control for most of his life.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,930 posts)
32. No. He is not at all like anyone on the spectrum.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 11:38 AM
Jun 2018

Nothing at all like someone with autism, and it's insulting to suggest that.

He's a narcissist, pure and simple. He glories in bullying people. Autistic people aren't bullies.

John1956PA

(2,680 posts)
28. In February, he joked about his partial baldness and his efforts to hide it.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 07:22 AM
Jun 2018

From http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/375258-trump-jokes-about-bald-spot-at-cpac :

As Trump launched into a speech extolling the conservative policies he’s enacted, the president looked up at a screen that showed him speaking to the crowd.

“What a nice picture that is, look at that,” Trump said. “I would love to watch that guy speak. Oh, boy. Oh, I try like hell to hide that bald spot, folks. I work hard at it.”

Trump turned around as the audience laughed and combed his hair with his hand.

“Doesn't look bad,” he said. “Hey, we're hanging in. We're hanging in.”


I recall watching a TV clip of his comment at the time.

He may not have a highly developed sense of humor, but he shows the rudiments of one, usually only when it serves his self-promotional interests.

malaise

(269,340 posts)
29. No - that was yet another cover up because
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 07:25 AM
Jun 2018

the bald head had been publicly exposed when he was climbing the aircraft stairs.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
30. Right-wing "humor" is lowbrow; it's limited to racism, sexism, and making fun of the less fortunate.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 07:38 AM
Jun 2018

They LOVE fried chicken, watermelon and welfare “jokes.” Or one about how all liberals have a “mental disorder.” Or mimicking a disabled person. Or anything derogatory about Muslims.

*Everything* they find funny is cruel and at the expense of someone else (read: not white and Christian).

raccoon

(31,136 posts)
34. Right. To me, another litmus test of a right-winger is if s/he finds it
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 12:46 PM
Jun 2018

hysterically funny to hear of someone else being beaten or spanked.

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