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MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 09:55 AM Jun 2018

The Death of the Plastic Straw



In 2015, a disturbing video of an olive ridley sea turtle suffering from a plastic straw stuck in its nose went viral, changing many viewers’ attitudes toward the plastic tool that is largely a convenience for most people.

But how can the plastic straw—a diminutive item used briefly before being thrown away—cause so much damage? For starters, it easily finds its way into oceans due to its lightweight nature. Once there, it does not biodegrade. Instead, it slowly fragments into smaller and smaller pieces known as microplastics, which are frequently mistaken for food by marine animals.



https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/features/plastic-straw-single-use-plastics-in-hotels-cruises/
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The Death of the Plastic Straw (Original Post) MoonRiver Jun 2018 OP
I got the message. Polly Hennessey Jun 2018 #1
We don't use any straws at home. MoonRiver Jun 2018 #2
I never use straws. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2018 #3
Yes, extraneous and dangerous for the environment and sea critters. MoonRiver Jun 2018 #5
Yes, but then the straw robbob Jun 2018 #9
That's a great idea, thanks for it! greatauntoftriplets Jun 2018 #10
The No Straws Please was MoonRivers idea robbob Jun 2018 #12
When I have coffee I do use sugar and cream but stir sticks are useless csziggy Jun 2018 #20
I use straws for coffee (the skinny ones) crazycatlady Jun 2018 #26
I use a straw for the same reason when I drink my apple cider vinegar in the morning dflprincess Jun 2018 #28
I do the same crazycatlady Jun 2018 #31
I use straws to thread my necklaces through them. zanana1 Jun 2018 #33
About time malaise Jun 2018 #4
My kids like straws but I bought metal ones a few years ago gollygee Jun 2018 #6
Good! I've never seen metal ones. MoonRiver Jun 2018 #7
metal straws sold at a local market.. $12. Includes a long thin scrubber think to clean the inside Demovictory9 Jun 2018 #21
I have a set of metal straws blogslut Jun 2018 #16
Yep, my wife has a set of metal straws ProudLib72 Jun 2018 #25
But without straws... N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2018 #8
The only thing about straws in general is that glasses in bars etc are not being cleaned properly. OnDoutside Jun 2018 #14
Provided you are consuming your drink 'for here' crazycatlady Jun 2018 #32
I'm definitely in favor of that mnmoderatedem Jun 2018 #11
When I was a kid all the straws were paper. nt Raine Jun 2018 #23
I remember a time when there was such a thing as paper straws. smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #13
Ted's Montana Grill uses all paper straws csziggy Jun 2018 #22
Until I saw this post, I had completely forgotten they used to be paper. Iggo Jun 2018 #15
I remember they would often collapse...I wonder if that is why plastic became popular? LeftInTX Jun 2018 #18
That's probably exactly why. Iggo Jun 2018 #19
OMG did you watch the linked video of the Sea Turtle with a straw up it's nose IcyPeas Jun 2018 #17
Yes, I've seen it. Poor baby. MoonRiver Jun 2018 #29
Silicone straws shanti Jun 2018 #24
Switch to reusable stainless steel or silicone straws, they're great. procon Jun 2018 #27
Mother Goose HAB911 Jun 2018 #30

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
2. We don't use any straws at home.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 10:18 AM
Jun 2018

When we go to restaurants, the first thing we say is NO STRAWS. One of our favorite restaurants doesn't use them, but the rest have to be told.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
5. Yes, extraneous and dangerous for the environment and sea critters.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 10:21 AM
Jun 2018

I just don't understand the abject stupidity of human beings.

robbob

(3,545 posts)
9. Yes, but then the straw
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 10:38 AM
Jun 2018

has been “used” and ends up in the garbage. I like the “no straws” request; I’m going to make sure to start using that.

Also, swizzle sticks in bar drinks! No thank you, I’m perfectly capable of swirling my ice cubes around in my scotch and soda...

robbob

(3,545 posts)
12. The No Straws Please was MoonRivers idea
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 01:28 PM
Jun 2018

(Above), but swizzle sticks is really a pet peeve of mine. They ALWAYS put them in bar drinks, and what is the FIRST thing everybody does? Take it out of the drink and put it on the bar. What a wasteful species we have become...

(Ditto stir sticks for coffee, but then again I don’t take sugar, so I really don’t need one...)

csziggy

(34,141 posts)
20. When I have coffee I do use sugar and cream but stir sticks are useless
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 08:37 PM
Jun 2018

If I'm serving myself from a dispenser, I put my sugar and creamer in the cup first, then pour the coffee over them. Usually that mixes the additions with the coffee much more thoroughly than a stir stick ever would.

Any other time I use a spoon to stir my coffee since I would either be at home or at a restaurant with reusable implements.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
26. I use straws for coffee (the skinny ones)
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 09:52 PM
Jun 2018

I was told by a dentist to not let acidic drinks come in contact with my front teeth.

I'm searching high and low for reusable skinny straws. No luck so far.

dflprincess

(28,095 posts)
28. I use a straw for the same reason when I drink my apple cider vinegar in the morning
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 11:44 PM
Jun 2018

(1 tsp in 8 oz of water).

But I've taken to washing the straw and use the same one for several weeks as I've become more aware of the problems they cause.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
31. I do the same
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 09:51 AM
Jun 2018

I've looked in brick and mortar shops and on AMazon for reusable straws. Most of the ones I see are designed for beverages like smoothies or milkshakes and very thick.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
6. My kids like straws but I bought metal ones a few years ago
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 10:22 AM
Jun 2018

they came with a little brush to clean them out.

I also have some paper straws that we use occasionally or can take places with us so I don't lose my metal ones. We mainly just use the metal ones though.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
7. Good! I've never seen metal ones.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 10:24 AM
Jun 2018

My husband thinks paper is the answer, but those also have to be recycled.

blogslut

(38,024 posts)
16. I have a set of metal straws
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 02:55 PM
Jun 2018

I got mine for practical reasons. I drink all my cold beverages from straws because of sensitive teeth. I realized one day that if I had re-usable straws I would never run out again. Bonus - I carry one in my purse so I never have to ask for a straw.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
25. Yep, my wife has a set of metal straws
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 09:39 PM
Jun 2018

I think they came with her fancy insulated cup. At first I made fun of them, but not anymore.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,807 posts)
8. But without straws...
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 10:31 AM
Jun 2018

You have to pick up that beverage and put that big hole at the top of the glass up to your mouth, it could really disable your arm and the spills, oh the spills.



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OnDoutside

(19,987 posts)
14. The only thing about straws in general is that glasses in bars etc are not being cleaned properly.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 02:18 PM
Jun 2018

Whenever I go to Continental Europe, a lot of places don't use dishwashers and just give the glass a clean with a shot of high pressure water. I always bring a lip balm cream relief like blistex.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
32. Provided you are consuming your drink 'for here'
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 09:54 AM
Jun 2018

Straws make on the go consumption much neater. Especially while driving.

I hate being a messy eater (have since I was a kid. And I DESPISE those photos parents take of kids with food all over their face.). Things like ice cream in a cone are too messy for me. Straws enable me to have drinks that would otherwise be messy.

mnmoderatedem

(3,739 posts)
11. I'm definitely in favor of that
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 12:30 PM
Jun 2018

there's a local little lake near where I live. Beautiful little lake that attracts a lot of garbage from the storm drains emptying into it. There's a local shopping mall and other convenience stores and such, and there's a lot of trash that makes its way into the drains and eventually into the lake. A number of us locals volunteer to fish out trash out of the lake whenever we have time. I can't even tell you how many straws we've removed from the shoreline. Can't even venture a guess. Biodegradable straws would be more than a little welcome.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
13. I remember a time when there was such a thing as paper straws.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 01:37 PM
Jun 2018

I am sure they could be made to be biodegradable. We have compostable straws at work, I am not sure if they pose the same problem as plastic straws.

csziggy

(34,141 posts)
22. Ted's Montana Grill uses all paper straws
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 08:46 PM
Jun 2018

And all their products are either re-usable or biodegrable:

George McKerrow talks paper straws and Ted's Montana Grill

George McKerrow, President of Ted's Montana Grill will be our guest today.

Ted’s Montana Grill has a deep commitment to the environment and our goal is to be 99% plastic-free. That’s why we re-introduced the paper straw, (not produced in the United States since 1970) and use it in all of our restaurants. Menus are printed on 100% recycled paper. Our to-go cups are made of cornstarch that bio-degrades in landfills in just 50 days. Soft drinks are served in recyclable glass bottles. Our take-away food is placed in Bio-Plus Earth Containers, which are high-quality, bio-degradable containers that are microwavable. These containers have been endorsed by the Green Restaurant Association. In addition to maintaining a 99% plastic-free restaurant, we also try to conserve energy and water. In Tallahassee, Fla., we worked with the city’s Energy Services division and One World Sustainable Inc. to install 66 solar panels on the top of our restaurant. And we are always looking for innovative ways to reduce our energy consumption like wind generators as well as low voltage lighting in all of our restaurants. Many of the restaurants feature water-efficient toilets in order to help conserve water. And all of our restaurants are non-smoking.

Will all of this change the world? Maybe, maybe not. But it’s the right thing to do.

http://www.southeastgreen.com/index.php/seg-features/speaking-of-green/season-2/4185-george-mckerrow-talks-paper-straws-and-teds-montana-grill


Aardvark Straws makes the straw for Ted's:

Our Story

In 1888, a man named Marvin Stone invented the original paper straw and patented his idea. That patent became the foundation for the company Stone later created—the same company that manufactures Aardvark®, The Original Paper Straw, today. Stone’s patent and his innovative spirit for all things round and tubular lives on with Aardvark®.

Aardvark paper straws were re-introduced in 2007, in response to a growing anti-plastic movement. Restaurants, hospitals, and other services industries, the main buyers of plastic straws in the US, were forced to look for more sustainable, eco-friendly options.

As a leading US manufacturer of small-size cylindrical tubing solutions, Precision Products Group Inc. was asked to create a straw that was more environmentally friendly. The answer was in their archives: Marvin Stone’s original 1888 patent for the first paper straw. Putting a modern spin on Stone’s original concept, Aardvark® was able to create a straw, using natural papers, that was more sustainable and more durable than any other paper straw on the market.

Today, Aardvark® paper straws can be found at retailers and distributors that offer made in the USA and Eco-Friendly products. Aardvark® paper straws are the only paper straws on the market that are made in the USA, use only FDA compliant, food-grade materials, and are marine degradable and compostable.

https://www.aardvarkstraws.com/our-story/

Iggo

(47,599 posts)
15. Until I saw this post, I had completely forgotten they used to be paper.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 02:25 PM
Jun 2018

Had a flashback to one of our occasional A&W drive-in visits back in the 60s.

Whoosh! Brought it all back.

LeftInTX

(25,813 posts)
18. I remember they would often collapse...I wonder if that is why plastic became popular?
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 05:26 PM
Jun 2018

Oh well, they can give out extra paper straws.

Iggo

(47,599 posts)
19. That's probably exactly why.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 06:47 PM
Jun 2018

"And we can crank out a billion of these suckers and not chop down one tree, I tell ya."

IcyPeas

(21,955 posts)
17. OMG did you watch the linked video of the Sea Turtle with a straw up it's nose
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 05:21 PM
Jun 2018

and another video comes up right after it of another turtle with a a straw or something plastic up it's nose.



shanti

(21,675 posts)
24. Silicone straws
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 09:36 PM
Jun 2018

that's another option that won't go into the ocean....hopefully. To be extra careful though, there's always paper.

procon

(15,805 posts)
27. Switch to reusable stainless steel or silicone straws, they're great.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 11:01 PM
Jun 2018

The SS straws come in different lengths, straight or curved, and double as drink stirrers, and they can be easily rinsed or cleaned with the little brush that is included, or just put them in the dishwasher. Some come with colorful plastic or silicone end pieces if you prefer a softer touch, and they also mark everyone's drinks. The silicone straws come in many colors and are dishwasher safe, they are wider and great for smoothies, malts, iced coffee, floats or bubble teas.

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