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Unsupported speculation about Melania Trump is essentially worthless. There is no evidence for any of it.
It's a little ridiculous to believe that something happened to her without news of that leaking out. More than a little ridiculous, really.
The only fact that is available is that she hasn't been seen in public for three weeks. Everything else is speculation. There is no news. We don't know. Speculation is, well, just speculation, and not really worthy of discussion. We can wonder where she is, but coming up with theory after theory about it is a complete waste of everyone's time, in my opinion.
PJMcK
(22,074 posts)Well written, as usual.
bearsfootball516
(6,378 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,514 posts)So nope.
MineralMan
(146,351 posts)doing what losers do. It will end, eventually, but with serious damage done to our nation.
Kingofalldems
(38,514 posts)except for her and Baron. something is going on.
appalachiablue
(41,204 posts)Poll: How Long Has It Been Since Trump Saw Melania Naked, Live? (Feb. 4, '18)
It appears that relations between Donald J. Trump and Melania, his wife are pretty darned chilly. From her facial expressions and Trump's behavior around her, it appears that their marriage is not going well, to say the least. So here's a poll about one simple intimate event in a relationship and the time since it last occurred.
8. I don't think any of us are. This poll is purely speculative.
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210187496
uppityperson
(115,681 posts)Snap
appalachiablue
(41,204 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,548 posts)appalachiablue
(41,204 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Not to mention odd.
appalachiablue
(41,204 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Kinda gross too.
Response to cwydro (Reply #122)
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Mr. Ected
(9,675 posts)Some of these theories propounded here on DU are worthy of Alex Jones.
msongs
(67,502 posts)malaise
(269,328 posts)thbobby
(1,474 posts)She is irrelevant. Just seems worthless and petty to speculate on her health. I wish her the best. We all dislike trump, but Melania speculation seems like petty gossip to me.
SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)and pushed the birther trash of her deranged husband. You can wish her well, I believe in karma.
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)It is ridiculous to believe any specific thing happened. For 'reasons' she has been out of the public eye. I would say those reasons amount to something. What that something might be? Any answer provided to that question is pure speculation. That's probably a long winded way to say I agree.
trueblue2007
(17,250 posts)about the Trumps.
Do not try to stifle discussion please. Everyone is talking about her.
https://www.google.com/search?q=where+is+melania+trump&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiW_v6247XbAhUmHjQIHQS_CfQQ_AUICSgA&biw=1290&bih=727&dpr=1
Missing Melania Trump barely makes news things are getting ...
https://www.theguardian.com/.../missing-melania-trump-barely-makes-news-things-ar...
6 hours ago - We're so used to bizarre behavior from the Trump administration that a missing first lady barely registers as strange.
Melania Trump's absence continues, skipping Camp David weekend ...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/01/politics/melania-trump-camp-david/index.html
1 day ago - (CNN) First lady Melania Trump isn't accompanying the President to Camp David this weekend, marking the 22nd day since she was last seen ...
Where is Melania Trump? These are the compelling theories.
https://www.mamamia.com.au/where-is-melania-trump-living/
9 hours ago - For over three weeks, first lady Melania Trump hasn't been seen publicly. As President Trump attends Camp David for a presidential retreat this ...
bearsfootball516
(6,378 posts)It's another for posters here to state things like "We haven't seen Melania for 22 days...Trump must be beating her!!" With absolutely NO proof of evidence to back it up.
True Blue American
(17,996 posts)It is not unusual to wonder why a First Lady who lives in the WhiteHouse has not been seen for almost a month now.
MarcA
(2,195 posts)hlthe2b
(102,561 posts)supported by taxpayers. I have no problem if she disappears and chooses to do NOTHING on behalf of the American people. It is a voluntary position after all. But, she has assumed the position and title of First Lady, including the considerable benefits that provides. So, I think if she is going "off grid" for some period of time they could at least be honest about it.
The DU post that asserted something specific had happened IS a problem, I would agree, since it poses this outcome with no proof. That should not be the case. Wondering whether she's vacationing with Baron, on the other hand, or even that she might be seeking privacy for personal medical matters is not maligning her.
The administration put out a tweet that pretty clearly was not written by Melania, though it might well have been put out by her staff. So for the public (and the Main Stream Media) not to wonder why is pretty unrealistic. It needn't be ugly, disrespectful nor conspiracy.-driven.
mountain grammy
(26,676 posts)She's the first lady.. Imagine Michelle disappearing for three weeks, or any first lady in my memory for that matter. Even while Bill was exposed for all his cheating, Hillary remained front and center...
Let's not talk about it? How stupid.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Have they been honest about anything?
Cha
(298,074 posts)window at the WH.. when reporters looked she wasn't there. That was one more stupid thing he did.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017494945
trueblue2007
(17,250 posts)dameatball
(7,411 posts)And here is why. Every day on DU someone is speculating about something. The fact is that even though we have some hints and some indictments, etc, about the Mueller investigation, we do not know the entirety of it. Yet......there are probably 30-50 speculative threads on here every day about where it may be heading, who is next and so forth.
I do think that a person's health issue is an area where we need to tread lightly. I doubt there is a "liberal" website anywhere who has not run this story. I think we should have some decorum and not be mean-spirited, but no need to ignore it either.
I enjoy DU, but a lot of what shows up here starts as a report of some kind, followed by dozens of replies that often are pure speculation.
GeorgeGist
(25,327 posts)That's all.
AmandaRuth
(3,105 posts)but I am thoroughly engrossed, amazed, fascinated and obsessed with this. She is FLOTUS after all. I know we all should be concerned with Flint, PR, Russia, trade wars and the mid terms, but this story is compelling to me.
For the same reason, I don't watch soaps or much TV at all for that matter, I get hooked into story lines.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)number 1 Dotard hater.
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)trueblue2007
(17,250 posts)salin
(48,955 posts)... The speculation isn't helpful - but some of the humor is kind of fun.
Goodheart
(5,352 posts)I think the OP is rather silly.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)This is not unusual.
However, I actually agree. The conspiracy theories are getting to be ridiculous.
Polly Hennessey
(6,817 posts)Remember, she wants us to buy into, Be Best and that makes her whereabouts our business. I dont believe she qualifies as a private citizen.
spinbaby
(15,095 posts)Why shouldnt we demand that the orange one prove that Melania is alive and not being held against her will?
Volaris
(10,281 posts)As far as I'm concerend, her level of engagement is entirely up to her. Yes, it's tradition for the president's wife to fill the paid position of First Lady, but it isn't legally required. If necessary, a president could hire anyone they wanted to do the job. Mind you, this is different than 'were paying her to do a job and no one's seen her for 3 weeks'; I'd admit that as a taxpayer this sort of concerns me and I hope sincerely that she's ok.
But if she wanted to, she's absolutely free to take a SecSvc agent and her kid and park herself in her home in New York and never step foot in DC for the remainder of her worthless husband's term.
Would any of us hold it against her that she doesn't want to be near his white-trash ass?
I wouldnt.
Hekate
(91,039 posts)Last edited Sat Jun 2, 2018, 05:31 PM - Edit history (1)
The small staff used to consist of a social secretary and a secretary to answer mail. She, or rather the potus, also gets a household allowance, out of which they are to see to things like groceries and the upkeep of the house they live in.
She's not "our employee," and never has been. She is expected to be the hostess for her husband's events, and to plan them (which is, contrary to some opinion here, actually a complex job). But she is NOT required to do any of this by statute, law, or the Constitution. It's the usual unpaid women's work in support of the husband as it has always been.
In other words, she can bow out if she wants to, and there is precedent.
If and when we ever elect a female president, a paid position will have to be created, because First Gentleman is certainly not going to do all of these things outside the usual male skillset, and for free.
treestar
(82,383 posts)How I wish we were experiencing our First First Gentleman! I would have enjoyed Bill's attempt to do the wifely duties!
spooky3
(34,528 posts)Work and some expenses are covered. But to me its a sexist holdover to expect them to serve without pay.
dameatball
(7,411 posts)hlthe2b
(102,561 posts)dameatball
(7,411 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)Enjoy!
gibraltar72
(7,518 posts)90-percent
(6,834 posts)She's away with Barron while he's undergoing his first cosmetic surgeries. (Anything to avoid "the curse of Eric" )
-90% Jimmy
The Velveteen Ocelot
(116,003 posts)That said, maybe the Lounge would be a better place for them.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I remember the OP predicting a big boot was about to drop before the election.
He even predicted the timetable. Pure speculation.
Never happened, of course.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,117 posts)We post a lot of stuff here that isn't newsworthy.
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)was having an affair with Sasquatch! Unfortunately, the boss has mysteriously disappeared. I went to report this to the police but they wouldn't file the report
rocktivity
(44,588 posts)but at worst, she's most likely still recovering from her hospitalization. You don't just hop out the bed the day after getting your kidneys worked on...if it was JUST her kidneys that were worked on...
rocktivity
treestar
(82,383 posts)DU would be very quiet and have very few posts.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)but here we are.
Sid
greyl
(22,990 posts)Auggie
(31,240 posts)Paladin
(28,287 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,859 posts)Hekate
(91,039 posts)...because some of the comments have been unnecessarily cruel.
We have very little to go on. However -- and this is where my eyebrows raised -- the Don's Famiglia is having a board meeting at Camp David. Only the favored children (no Eric, but Tiff is a surprise), only Ivanka's spouse. No Melania. No grandkids or Barron -- this is clearly business without even the pretense of a family outing.
So even I am compelled to ask why.
StarryNite
(9,476 posts)What about all the times we thought 'this is it! tRump is finally going down!' but so far it hasn't happened. Will tRump ever get removed from office for the crimes he has committed? Who knows? We can only speculate with each new piece of evidence that we are presented with. So while we wait and speculate as to whether tRump will ever be held accountable for all the crimes he has committed we might as well speculate on what happened to Malania.
WiseElder
(132 posts)Melania has asked everyone to donate to her divorce Go Fund me. She says to just imagine how it would be to have that fat disgusting cheeto climb on top of you.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(116,003 posts)StarryNite
(9,476 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,603 posts)quartz007
(1,216 posts)Melania might just be keeping a low profile,
recovering from her recent surgery.
StarryNite
(9,476 posts)quartz007
(1,216 posts)Until I see some evidence, we are all shooting helter skelter.
hlthe2b
(102,561 posts)Link to tweet
If tweet doesn't show up in your browser, it says: Apparently Melania has been staying with some Hillary supporters. Smart move. Everybody knows the media never talks to them.If Melania has been staying with rural Trump voters, the media wouldve found her in two hours, interviewed the whole town, run a prime time special on their feelings and then taken up residence in the local diner.
Vinca
(50,334 posts)If Melania's absence can deliver a laugh, I'm all for posting conspiracy theories. I agree we shouldn't be posting things like Don strangled her and buried her in the Rose Garden, but who could believe Dear Leader would do manual labor anyway???
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)If I recall correctly, there is a whole forum just for this kind of thing. "Creative Speculation" or some such title. Maybe your complaint is that they are in the wrong forum.
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)on the weekends...
xeodtech
(79 posts)for 21 days .. it would not be a story on fox noise... get a grip...
moreland01
(746 posts)Attempted Suicide, for sure. That's where my head would be.
I suspect that she is a "honey pot" who has been under Kremlin control since she was a teen and was sent here for political purposes.
I've said so in another post.
Call it conspiracy theory or speculation or whatever. I don't care.
Of course I don't have proof. If I did I'd be talking to the FBI, not posting here.
But what exactly is the problem with airing that suspicion?
Are we all too pure, too high-minded to entertain it?
A bunch of snowflakes?
You may have noticed that one of the most prominent Birthers is now in the White House.
But airing an entirely possible scenario is beneath us?
If so, maybe we're too fragile for politics.
bearsfootball516
(6,378 posts)Without some kind of evidence, there's nothing entirely possible about that scenario. It's definitely a conspiracy theory.
ArtD
(12 posts)appalachiablue
(41,204 posts)worthless, ridiculous and lacks evidence.
Hard to distinguish what's newsworthy, and factual.
Discussion is what it's about.
LeftInTX
(25,811 posts)Keep her in hiding so we talk about her instead of his latest policy flop.
True Dough
(17,391 posts)appalachiablue
(41,204 posts)Oops!
SixString
(1,057 posts)I remember that too!
Cha
(298,074 posts)Thanks True Dough.
StarryNite
(9,476 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)demmiblue
(36,920 posts)appalachiablue
(41,204 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Maybe he forgot he posted that Melania thread.
appalachiablue
(41,204 posts)orangecrush
(19,666 posts)but mainly I think some of the posts about her absence are satire and in fun.
I have no clue as to what's up with her.
It is highly unusual, as mainstream media is reporting, especially with the entire family at Camp David except her (and Barron?!?)
With the daily outpour of lies from this administration, it isn't suprising no one accepts the offered explanation from them.
.....
"Did Melania Trump Spell HELP in a Tweet?
An artist's satirical post about the First Lady circulated online, eventually spreading without his name attached to the joke."
Link to tweet
?s=19
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-melania-spell-help-tweet/
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Then you'll not see them.
In my humble opinion, of course.
Generic Brad
(14,276 posts)Don't discuss?
machoneman
(4,016 posts)Otherwise, you are no better than Fearless Leader.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)RandySF
(59,810 posts)Lunabell
(6,141 posts)This is exactly where it needs to be. Something smells.
Hugin
(33,222 posts)Last edited Sat Jun 2, 2018, 08:12 PM - Edit history (1)
went viral.
The evidence: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210571406
I see what you did there.
Smooth.
MFM008
(19,837 posts)And i dont really care if she was walled up behind the portrait of Hillary Clinton,
can you imagine the conspiracy
theories if it were a democratic
officials wife........
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)People are free to discuss whatever they would like as long as it is within the rules.
nini
(16,672 posts)Sadly DU isn't what it used to be as far as high level pointed discussions.
I do agree there's no need to help spread anything that is not factual. Honestly I don't care where she is.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)That was your post, right?
MineralMan
(146,351 posts)Thanks for the recognition.
Hugin
(33,222 posts)It becomes a conspiracy theory when someone insists against all evidence to the contrary their theory is fact.
So far... We have no evidence about the Third Lady.
Which in itself is interesting, no?
ollie10
(2,091 posts)I would not contribute to these or give them the time of day.
However, it is rather curious that it has been so long. The first lady, whether she likes it or not, is a public figure. It is highly unusual for her to be so absent for so long.
It is also interesting, and maybe worrisome, that this disappearance started with Melania in the hospital.
I would think it would be in everyone's best interest to cast the speculation away by a simple appearance, if nothing else to let us know she is alright
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,859 posts)Sophia4
(3,515 posts)It isn't a serious matter.
flotsam
(3,268 posts)and then laughed when it began showing up elsewhere? Thought so. Maybe you should not be teaching internet morality to others...
SixString
(1,057 posts)MontanaMama
(23,368 posts)whatever the hell we want to. If someone starts a thread and nobody is interested enough to respond then maybe its a thread that needs to go away. You can trash them if youd like but you yourself, MM, speculated on the last time Dotard saw his wife naked...this is no different and it just might be more important. Every other thread on this board imvolces speculation. AND, if Mrs tRump is having plastic surgery at our expense, I think its our business.
justgamma
(3,667 posts)We all are smart enough to know it's all in good fun. And we need some fun and laughs once in a while.
kcr
(15,329 posts)Totally not newsworthy. Just another boring day in a country with a normal functioning president. Nothing to see here.
Yavin4
(35,455 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)Mine is >>>she is aging as humans do but will not allow nature to take its course
Even at the inauguration her neck was hidden and probably her squinty eyes are being lifted (rework of previous work which is obvious she has had plastic work before )
Surgery advice
Expect your neck to feel tight for a few weeks, and know that bruising and swelling are normal.
Eye lift
How long will I have to wait until going out in public without wearing hats and sunglasses? My doctor says 6 weeks minimum....
So my ct prediction is :
1)you will not see her for another week or so and when you do she may have sunglasses and her neck covered
2)But a few more weeks and then a new smooth Melanie !
3)MSM will never address it
If the WH had just addressed it honestly it would have died down after a day or two or maybe trumpers would find it the latest rage and the industry would be getting requests for the Melanie look
Want privacy ?
Dont move into the WH as POTUS&FLOTUS
blogslut
(38,023 posts)I would like to know if the first lady of the United States is okay. I don't have to like her to care about her welfare.