Literally generations of females who were prevented from self-actualization.

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was spread that she had been in meetings with her Austrian arms dealer husband and the Nazis before in the buildup to WWII and the stole the idea. Thus she was a spy, not an inventor supposedly. Which is refuted in the documentary. She invented it in the USA.

and he never took her to his business. She ended up having to escape the country to
Get away from him.

Also, how could she be so good at stealing the idea that she could reproduce it? And where was it ever used by the Nazis if they already had it?

I tend to doubt that theory a lot!

It’s like the 3 Black women who were depicted in the movie “Hidden Figures”.

The sheer knowledge that we don’t have is mind boggling. All because women and racial minorities were oppressed!

and honesty of some of it, like the way Jack Warner supposedly viewed her because of her early film work, eg 'Ecstasy,' which I find hard to believe in his industry. This bio film was also broad in covering the ups & downs of Hedy's life, projects, moves, marriages.

She had hardships and difficulties, and yet was a very intelligent, striking, and beautiful screen star.
I always admired her, and thought she should have been cast in 'Casablanca' especially beside Bogart although Bergman was very good. Hedy's two nice, articulate children were featured in the film, and added a lot of perspective and balance to the portrait of their mother, a great lady.

The documentary is very well done as you say. More people should know her story. Our modern life with all our communication devices are based on her invention.

That’s also in the documentary

“I didn’t get a harrumph out of that guy.”

Gov. LePetomane’s meeting from Blazing Saddles reminds me of Dump cabinet meeting.

Thanks for sharing.

At the end of the episode, before our heroes escape back to the present day in their time machine, they tell her to file the patent and keep it up-to-date. When they get back to the present, Wikipedia lists Hedy Lamarr as a billionaire!

have very well been created because of Hedy’s invention. There’s a mind bender for you!

I love the paradoxical twists of time travel!

Copyright rules are pretty simple, but Patent and Trademark rules are not, people have to actively update their Patent and Trademark filings, as well as police their use. When a person has an invention or wants to register a Trademark, it is highly advisable that they find an established, ethical law firm and use the help of that firm, not doing that can cost a person potentially billions on a valuable invention.

call an invention hotline and tell them your brilliant idea. Take my word for it.

When I did some sculpture artwork for a video game my artwork was used again to make them some money without paying me. Their attitude was that if I objected they wouldn’t give me any more work.

Art is no way to make a living if you aren’t a cut throat.

First, did you agree to do the work for them on fee or commission? If yes for either, technically when you delivered the work it was theirs.

If you filed an official copyright application BEFORE allowing them to use your work for a fee, then you should be able to sue them for unauthorized use of your work, assuming you have something in writing that defines the extent to which they could use your work.



I always copyright literature that may be of value. I will trademark something for the first time because I realize that it could become a brand, I haven't bothered before. I also may file for a patent, but for this item, getting a patent could prove to be tricky (because there are potentially other ways of producing the same outcome).

I lived in California where copyrights are automatically owned by the artist.

What happened was that they contacted the art director to supposedly ask my permission to use my artwork. He gave them permission and never told me about it and pocketed the money. A friend of mine just happened to see an ad with it.

At that point it just soured me on the whole thing. I had made the sculptures fragile on purpose so they would fall apart pretty quickly, but evidently not quickly enough. This was a couple of years before animation was added to computers. Now it’s all done on computers.

If the company that used your work was located outside of California, their state laws apply if you did not hold a federal copyright. Look like the problem was with the art director, that person appears to have been dishonest. One big issue with creative people is finding agents, lawyers, middlepeople that are honest, it is a big problem.

You can see my explanation in the post just above yours where I answered a question that Blue_true asked me.

Even with law firms, you need to research them carefully before chosing one. Once you have a good one, stay with it.

Composer George Antheil, and their implementation of the idea was based on modified player-piano mechanisms. "Actress and Musician Defeat Nazi Submarines with Player Pianos!" is definitely one of the stranger stories in the history of inventions.

Since her movies haven't aged as well as some of the other classics of early cinema, I feel like these days she's actually better known for her contribution to modern communications tech than she is for her movie career.

I was trying to remember so much that I saw in the documentary that I left out some of it. I came away thinking her partner was a scientist, but I stand corrected.

One of those brilliant polymaths that learned a lot about science and technology, even though it wasn't his primary focus.

Hedy said Hughes was her worst lover ever but they clicked over their shared interest in invention. Hughes put his scientists at her disposal. She felt his planes were too slow so looking at the shapes of bird wings and fish she improved wing designs on Hughes planes. Hughes told her she was brilliant.

Brilliant, free thinking, creative, gorgeous, evolution hitting on all cylinders.

Thanks for adding it here.

Thanks for the thread lunatica

and her invention of frequency hopping which she did in her spare time between movie takes. I’m so glad I saw the documentary.

I read about her story two months ago (I had NO idea about her genius) and even marked it on my calendar to be looking for the documentary (through PBS' American Masters) to come out. And then tonight when I got home I thought I'd see if anything new was on Netflix and there it was.

brag about their genius IQ. Well, we gave no idea what Hedy's IQ was, and who cares. Her work speaks for itself.

Woods can only brag that he did well on a test. What has he done with his "superior" brain?

Absolutely nothing.

What else would she have done if she could have followed her passion?

As women we have an obligation to fight for every right we’re due. We must fight for all women and all young girls. Nothing else is acceptable.

always relegated to the role of wife and mother, maybe teacher or secretary if she was ambitious or needed to make a living.

those countless interviews with Tammy Faye Bakker.

. . . on an episode of What History Forgot on History channel
Thanks for the heads up on the documentary

independent, and professionally successful woman who lived a remarkable life, including as an inventor. She fairly early on achieved a degree of financial independence that allowed her to live in luxury with far more freedom of choice than most people. She didn't do so outstandingly well in her private life, particularly with her children, but that's her doing, her choices, not evil imprisoning society's.

Victim mentality, btw, can and often does result in a self imprisoning. Lamarr obviously didn't share this peculiar weakness, living a life extremely unblighted by imagining herself a helpless victim.

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you'll be able to sue her.

She was an amazing person.