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Would Trump Have Sided With Hitler Before WWII? You Have To Wonder. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Jun 2018 OP
Definitely! Don't forget Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell and over 150 Republicans. TheBlackAdder Jun 2018 #1
Very possible. world wide wally Jun 2018 #2
Before and during thbobby Jun 2018 #3
It's not really similar Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2018 #8
In the early years of the Third Reich thbobby Jun 2018 #10
I take your point. My opinion is a little different. Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2018 #19
YET. smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #17
Not a doubt in my mind. BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #4
Of course JI7 Jun 2018 #5
Edward VIII was a fan, so it is hardly implausible that Trump would be too. RockRaven Jun 2018 #6
Yes, but keep in mind that the America First movement had some fascist sympathies Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2018 #7
Easy choice for a Nazi sympathizer and Hitler worshipper dalton99a Jun 2018 #9
There were definitely wealthy American businessmen who did. The movement of oil to Germany... Hekate Jun 2018 #11
Yes, but not because Trump is sympathetic to their ideals jmowreader Jun 2018 #12
Many of the rich historically have been authoritarian, empedocles Jun 2018 #16
Without a doubt. C Moon Jun 2018 #13
Yes, but primarily because Hitler was a "winner." Ethics and morality have no place... TreasonousBastard Jun 2018 #14
How can he not be aware of WWII? People were still dealing with the aftermath when he was growing up Rhiannon12866 Jun 2018 #15
Surely there would have been a Trump International Hotel in Berlin rurallib Jun 2018 #18

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
3. Before and during
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 02:07 AM
Jun 2018

trump would have been so enthralled by Nazi hatred that he would suck up to Hitler just as Pence does to him. I believe Mein Kampf is his favorite book (maybe the only book he has ever read). What trump is doing to Hispanics is very similar to how the Nazis treated Jewish People early in the Third Reich.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,798 posts)
8. It's not really similar
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 02:45 AM
Jun 2018

It seems similar, and I'll readily agree that ICE is out of control. However, Hispanics who are citizens of the United States are not being systematically murdered by being rounded up and gassed or shot in ditches. Nor are citizens being rounded up en masse and forced into labor camps. That was how the Nazis treated Jews, homosexuals, the Roma, Jehovah's Witness, the mentally disabled, and other so-called "undesirables."

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
10. In the early years of the Third Reich
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 03:05 AM
Jun 2018

there was no gassing or mass shooting. There were boycotts and hidden concentration camps. Hispanics are dying now, definitely not in the number that was eventually done to Jewish People, but still, it is happening. The German People were conditioned by years of propaganda to accept the eventual treatment of the Jewish People. Genocide did not start overnight, it was a gradual process.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,798 posts)
19. I take your point. My opinion is a little different.
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 01:24 PM
Jun 2018

I think Trump wants to remake America as an apartheid state - in the manner of the old RSA, or modern-day Israel. Undesirable groups will be kept outside walls.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
17. YET.
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 06:21 AM
Jun 2018

There is no telling how far he will go if allowed. The Nazi's didn't start off throwing people into camps. It was a slow build up.

RockRaven

(15,098 posts)
6. Edward VIII was a fan, so it is hardly implausible that Trump would be too.
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 02:33 AM
Jun 2018

Those two seem like self-indulgent, vapid, amoral peas-in-a-pod.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,798 posts)
7. Yes, but keep in mind that the America First movement had some fascist sympathies
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 02:40 AM
Jun 2018


And there was the German-American Bund holding pro-Hitler rallies in NYC.

Also remember that, realistically until the 60s, America was in many ways an apartheid nation. Even in states like California where there was not official segregation as there was in the south, there was redlining that forbade African Americans from purchasing real estate in certain areas. Schools were segregated in parts of the nation (officially) until 1967.

Hekate

(91,055 posts)
11. There were definitely wealthy American businessmen who did. The movement of oil to Germany...
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 03:31 AM
Jun 2018

...and the movement of information about the transfer of that oil so that the tankers didn't get bombed was epic. Franco, among others, got his oil -- and none got through to Spanish resistors.

That's only one piece of it, but yes, it's a dark part of the history of multinational corporations. They owe allegiance to no particular countey or political system.

jmowreader

(50,603 posts)
12. Yes, but not because Trump is sympathetic to their ideals
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 03:41 AM
Jun 2018

In the late 1930s, a lot of America's rich invested with Hitler because they believed he was good for business.

There were some serious anti-Semites in the USA (Henry Ford was one), but Trump seems far more interested in what those groups can do for him than in what he can do for them.

When it comes to Trump, follow the money.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
16. Many of the rich historically have been authoritarian,
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 06:19 AM
Jun 2018

not liking this democracy stuff - still true today. Compounded by their ocd need for still more wealth, power. 'Follow the money' has a long history of wars, empires, theories [mercantilism quickly comes to mind, manifest destiny, this list would be mind boggling].

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
14. Yes, but primarily because Hitler was a "winner." Ethics and morality have no place...
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 04:41 AM
Jun 2018

in Trump's world, but winning and losing do.

Rhiannon12866

(206,934 posts)
15. How can he not be aware of WWII? People were still dealing with the aftermath when he was growing up
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 04:48 AM
Jun 2018

And he must have known those who fought - and who lost loved ones. And when he went to military school, which he apparently really bonded with, WWII must have been discussed prominently in his classes.

rurallib

(62,491 posts)
18. Surely there would have been a Trump International Hotel in Berlin
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 09:05 AM
Jun 2018

probably Munich and Nuremberg also among many other "business" deals.

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