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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBREAKING: Trump tweets North Korea no longer nuclear threat.
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WASHINGTON (AP) The Latest on the summit between President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un (all times local):
6:15 a.m.
President Donald Trump says on Twitter, There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea, as he returns to the United States after his historic summit with North Korea leader Kim Jong Un.
Trump says on Twitter that everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office.
He says before he took office, people were assuming that we were going to War with North Korea, and President Barack Obama said North Korea was the nations biggest problem.
Trump and Kim signed an agreement to work toward denuclearization, but it appears weaker than past deals that failed. Independent experts estimate North Korea now has enough fissile material for 20 to 60 bombs, and it has tested missiles that could potentially deliver a nuclear weapon to the U.S. mainland.
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Good God he is a total moron, they still have all their nuclear weapons and are not giving it up for no one, its the only leverage they have.
Trumps..Mission accomplished......
MontanaMama
(23,369 posts)probably let this ridiculous tweet slide. The rabbit hole gets deeper by the second...🙄
Funtatlaguy
(10,899 posts)Of the population only gets their news from right wing sources.
If the other 60% doesnt come out in massive numbers in November, we as a nation are over.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Sorry to yell. :> )
Election will be a sham.
I don;t know the amnswert other than taking to the streets....
Zoonart
(11,922 posts)Where is the planning? I am on the email list of several Democratic action groups and all are silent.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)There MUST MUST at least be a Democratic 'response team" Everything coming out of this fuck's mouth must be refuted with facts within minutes.. spread and force fed to every freakin media outlet possible..
Bit-- alost nothing !
Was it Buill Clinton;s campaigh that had a rapid response team? Some democrat candidate did, I forget who...
Shit, pay me $100,000 and I;ll do it !!!!
FarPoint
(12,487 posts)They are selling it.
JHB
(37,166 posts)Another Trump University sales pitch.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Exactly my reaction! Another con job by a master snake oil salesman. This snake oil will cure your erectile dysfunction, grow hair on your bald pate, cure breast cancer, remove moles and freckles, and make you lose weight without ever changing your diet or exercising.
Cha
(298,130 posts)MontanaMama
(23,369 posts)on my way to the airport and the moron behind me says Hey did you hear that Trump got North Korea to get rid of their nukes? So goddamn frustrating. I turned around and said thats not true. Dont get your news from Fox. The moron says Definitely wont get it from CNN. This is why we cant have nice things.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,128 posts)MontanaMama
(23,369 posts)Thanks. I needed that laugh today.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Along with the willfully ignorant like that moron.
MontanaMama
(23,369 posts)Im a chaperone with a group of 13-15 year olds from Montana going to Belize. After I reminded this little so and so that tRump did not denuke NK, he went on an anti Hillary rant calling her trash and yelling MAGA! from the back of the bus. Universe help me.
*note, his mother is also a chaperone. She rolled her eyes at her son and said some people will just believe anything referring to me. What a nightmare. Glad this little toad is from a different school under someone elses care. 😖
maryellen99
(3,790 posts)MontanaMama
(23,369 posts)to him again to find out. Im sure he will if dear leader wants him to admire KJU. I find myself having a violent physical reaction to these people when Im around them. Like I said, this is a kid!!! I should be able to keep it between the guard rails....but dammit they are awful people.
Ohioboy
(3,250 posts)That's the other aspect of their propaganda, vilify anyone who won't swallow their lies.
MontanaMama
(23,369 posts)Ive got to keep it together and stay away from the little shit. Dont want to make it hard for my own kiddo.
Ohioboy
(3,250 posts)I know what you are going through. I'm surrounded by Trump supporters they follow him blindly.
MontanaMama
(23,369 posts)Its just awful isnt it? It turns me into a person I dont like. Breathe. Breathe.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)their children with hateful rhetoric. Good job. Mom.
Ohioboy
(3,250 posts)The truth is worth speaking up for.
Purple Mountain Maje
(41 posts)At the airport citing security concerns. Mama can go.
MontanaMama
(23,369 posts)Dont give me ANY ideas!
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)... and my son picked up some of the distortion. I finally said to him:
It's not about "liberals" vs "conservatives." Those are dumb words for bullies to throw around like rocks. "Liberal" means "free" and all Americans want freedom. Everyone needs to conserve the biosphere so we can breathe and farm for food. So these words can be applied to everyone in different ways. The REAL division in this country is between the patient and the impatient. Only the patient do their research and don't rely on single, "infotainment" news sources. In a sense it breaks down as a struggle between the rational and the irrational.
MontanaMama
(23,369 posts)Its a constant effort to present facts to them so that they dont go to the dark side.
Cha
(298,130 posts)MontanaMama!
Ohioboy
(3,250 posts)Forget the truth, just get people believing what you want.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Ask why they are afraid to even hear a different point of view. Ask why they are so cowardly afraid to learn that they might be wrong?
pangaia
(24,324 posts)They are facts,.
have simple facts ready to go and give them both barrels. If they do not wish to hear, there is nothing one can do,
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)Trump is not the root of our problem. American ignorance and apathy is our biggest problem.
NM
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Ohioboy
(3,250 posts)Ignorance is Trump's friend.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)There's your problem right there....
when public schools started going down... actually about 5 yeqars before
C_U_L8R
(45,047 posts)His idiot base accepts this ridiculous claim
Fullduplexxx
(7,880 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)by the KGOP/tRUMP/Putin/M$M? How played were/are the Deplorables?
gordianot
(15,260 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)sunonmars
(8,656 posts)Something stinks in all of this.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)gordianot
(15,260 posts)Similar solid fuel boosters took everyone else decades to invent and produce. Solid fuel Missiles are why response times to an attack are a matter of a few minutes.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)is no longer a nuclear threat.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)all of their nuclear bombs are still intact waiting to be loaded up in minutes but...
Commander Bone Spurs declares that magically they are no longer a threat!
Genius I tell you! Pure fucking GENIUS!!!!!
rtracey
(2,062 posts)Why am I just hoping NK does just one more missile test?
quartz007
(1,216 posts)China, India, Pakistan, Israel, Russia, France, UK, & USA can have all the nukes they want?
Which world order law makes this justifiable?
Any sovereign country should be allowed to possess nukes so long as the above 8 countries can have them.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)quartz007
(1,216 posts)Iran & N Korea did not beg for free nukes. They are spending their own money. So did India, Pakistan & all others who possess nukes. My question is what world law forbids ANY COUNTRY to develop nukes if they want to. Brazil, Japan, S Korea, Italy, Spain, etc have the means to manufacture nukes.
And stop bringing Hitler in to every issue. None of the countries above are killing Jews or any other people. That is an irrelevant and illogical point.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)And putting generations of families in prison work camps. Educate yourself. And splitting hairs over how the nukes are paid for isnt helpful. But I get it- you want to be fair to Hitler and Kim.
quartz007
(1,216 posts)What first hand information you have about people killed in N Korea? Russia & China have killed 1000 times more people in their own country than N Korea. But you seem to be fine with their nukes.
We are the only western country to have practiced slavery and the only country in the world to have nuked 2 populated cities and incinerated civilians with radiation. And yet you seem to be OK with us having nukes.
N Korea has never bombed any foreign country, and never sent its soldiers all over the world to fight. Wait a minute, it is we who have 800 military bases all over the world in foreign countries, not N. Korea!
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)quartz007
(1,216 posts)The topic is strictly North Korea. It has no Jewish problem,
or has no relevance to "the final solution."
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Why do you ignore that and say Kim hasnt killed his people? Thats not true at all.
quartz007
(1,216 posts)No exceptions! By definition, a dictator holds on to power by killing all opposition.
Since your short term memory seems to be on weak side,
let me repeat what I said in previous posts.
Dictators in Russia & China have killed more of their own people by orders of magnitude than Kim Jong Un has. But I do not see you posting opposition to nukes in Russia or China.
And then you compare Kim Jong Un to Hitler? Has Kim killed any Jews or anyone based on religion? NO!!
Current dictators in Iran have killed all followers of Shah, who were of course 100% Iranians. But we made a deal with Iran.
Pakistan has 200+ nukes, and 80% of Pakistani people sympathize or support Osama Bin Laden, Al Qaeda & Taliban. And Pakistan has had a string of dictators since inception in 1947. I am far more worried about those nukes falling in hands of religious extremists than from N Korea.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)confessions for absolutely nothing in return. How does that compare to our Iran deal? It doesnt. And not sure why youre hung up on this being about Jews. Thats besides the point. Have fun chasing your own tail defending Trump kissing Kims ass, I am out of here.
quartz007
(1,216 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)That same sovereignty allows any one country to use its leverage on any other country should that country posses the leverage and should that country decide to, regardless of wisdom, practicality or price.
It's not denial of nuclear weapons, it's leverage.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)sunonmars
(8,656 posts)It cannot survive without them, their silence is reason to think something is completely weird and rotten in all of this.
Something is not right and if I can smell it, you can be guaranteed the intelligence community can as well.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)kentuck
(111,111 posts)I am so relieved that NK got rid of their nuclear weapons so quickly. We can all sleep better tonight.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)History repeating itself. Sheeple not learning.
Ohioboy
(3,250 posts)Nobody but Trump makes best deals!
Mc Mike
(9,118 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)SunSeeker
(51,821 posts)Kim still has all his nukes. He's still a murderous dictator.
Except now, with Trump's total and utter capitulation to ALL of Kim's wants, Kim is now more powerful than he ever was.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)VERY hard. And he wont like it one bit.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)keithbvadu2
(37,061 posts)Would Kim be able to trust Dotard by giving up his only bargaining chips, his nukes, after seeing how honorable Donald is in keeping his word?
With Bolton expressing his preference for a Libya solution, where the leader of Libya was killed.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,509 posts)underpants
(183,057 posts)For small and large accomplishments the right wing media (all media at least discussed it) cried and moaned about Obama "spiking the football". That was about actual achievements. Trump is in la la land coming off a week of complete failure and making a complete ass of himself but he declared several victories, wants a victory lap, AND spikes the football.
Gothmog
(146,012 posts)Cha
(298,130 posts)D_Master81
(1,823 posts)I mean he says its so , so it must be.
soryang
(3,299 posts)But the nuclear threat part was always problematic. The idea that they would attack a US ally with nuclear weapons never was the issue. It's only when you want to attack them or overthrow their regime, that the deterrence aspect of nuclear weapons enters into the picture. It would be suicide for the North to ever use those weapons. However that is how one defector described it, a doomsday machine that would go into effect, if North Korea was successfully attacked and "decapitated."
The more substantial issues are achieving a more or less permanent security arrangement in the area, managing great power competition on the peninsula and in northeast Asia, avoiding nuclear proliferation, managing the Korean nationalist movement for eventual unification, and resolving and preserving Japanese security in the face of lingering Korean and Chinese resentments against Japan and territorial disputes.
Robert Carlin has noted that a request for a withdrawal of US forces from the area has been notably absent from North Korean demands lately. It is the nature of those forces and what they are doing that is the issue.
Now that the North Korean demand is seen as not having war exercises with forces of strategic significance on their doorstep, practicing the destruction of North Korea, the response from the Pentagon advocates is, "What about China?" This is the real issue in the region, and always has been, great power competition for hegemony in the area. Not too far removed from the historical situation in the late nineteenth and twentieth centuries.