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Please feel free, as I am sure many will, to correct me but as I understand the structure of a pardon is that the one being pardoned admits guilt to the charges outlined in the pardon and more importantly they give up their rights under the fifth amendment and basically are compelled to tell everything they know with respect to any crime they were party or aware of with respect to that pardon.
If trump is really guilty of ANY crimes than that would be the last thing he would be advised to do. Not to mention that nothing says Im guilty as pardoning those in your inner circle before charges are even made public.
If trump was party to any crimes or if people like Manafort or Cohen have any direct knowledge of crimes that trump was a party too than he is better off to let the chips fall where they may and hope for the best than to all but ensure that his involvement in those crimes becomes public.
Is that analysis wrong?
thbobby
(1,474 posts)They are compelled to testify without 5th. They refuse or lie and are indicted. trump pardons new charges and whines "This witchhunt has got to stop". What then? State charges seem to be only hope. I believe Mueller may have cards to play if trump begins pardoning. Perhaps his children's crimes in New York? Just guessing, but something is preventing him from firing Sessions, Rosenstein, and Mueller and I do not believe it is gop or fear of alienating his base. Gop is complicit and his base is a cult.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)They can go to jail for contempt of court, which is generally a civil punishment, not subject to pardon. President can only pardon criminal contempt cases, such as Arpaio's.
thbobby
(1,474 posts)Great to know.