Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

riversedge

(70,475 posts)
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 03:43 PM Jun 2018

Judge in Emoluments Case Questions Defense of Trump's Hotel Profits






Judge in Emoluments Case Questions Defense of Trump’s Hotel Profits




Image
The Justice Department argued in court on Monday that President Trump’s financial interest in the Trump International Hotel in downtown Washington is constitutional, an assertion that was met with skepticism from the judge.CreditTom Brenner/The New York Times

By Sharon LaFraniere

June 11, 2018

GREENBELT, Md. — A federal judge on Monday sharply criticized the Justice Department’s argument that President Trump’s financial interest in his company’s hotel in downtown Washington is constitutional, a fresh sign that the judge may soon rule against the president in a historic case that could head to the Supreme Court.

The plaintiffs in the lawsuit, the District of Columbia and the state of Maryland, charge that Mr. Trump’s profits from the hotel violate anti-corruption clauses of the Constitution that restrict government-bestowed financial benefits, or emoluments, to presidents beyond their official salary. They say the hotel is siphoning business from local convention centers and hotels.

The judge, Peter J. Messitte of the United States District Court in Maryland, promised to decide by the end of July whether to allow the plaintiffs to proceed to the next stage, in which they could demand financial records from the hotel or other evidence from the president. ............................................

Attorneys general for the District of Columbia and Maryland say that by allowing foreign officials to patronize the five-star Trump International Hotel blocks from the White House, Mr. Trump is violating the Constitution’s ban on payments from foreign governments to federal officeholders. They also claim the president is violating a related clause that restricts compensation, other than his salary, from the federal government or from state governments.



In a two-hour hearing, attorneys for the local jurisdictions and for the Justice Department debated what the framers meant by the emoluments clauses, citing definitions of the word emolument in centuries-old dictionaries and quoting Alexander Hamilton and other founders in attempts to discern their intent.

The Justice Department contended that the Constitution’s framers meant only to bar federal officials from providing a service to a foreign government and receiving compensation. For example, said Brett Shumate, a deputy assistant attorney general, the Constitution would prohibit Mr. Trump from signing a treaty in exchange for a financial benefit. But it allows him to profit financially from foreign diplomats who book his hotel because there is “no allegation that in exchange, he took some official action,” he said.


..................................................
11 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Judge in Emoluments Case Questions Defense of Trump's Hotel Profits (Original Post) riversedge Jun 2018 OP
BullShit.. Good Luck to the Plaintiffs and Reality! Cha Jun 2018 #1
The end of July, then the SCOTUS... BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #2
Seems more than likely that the SCOTUS Cha Jun 2018 #3
Where's the link to the story? Chimichurri Jun 2018 #4
Link, please. StrictlyRockers Jun 2018 #5
It's from the NYT StrictlyRockers Jun 2018 #6
This might be a dumb question, but ..... SergeStorms Jun 2018 #7
No allegation of official action in exchange Volaris Jun 2018 #8
Why is the Justice Department involved in defending this case? dansolo Jun 2018 #9
I asked the same question, but.... SergeStorms Jun 2018 #10
Stupid question: Why is DOJ defending tRump? trof Jun 2018 #11

BigmanPigman

(51,674 posts)
2. The end of July, then the SCOTUS...
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 04:05 PM
Jun 2018

This is going to take forever then the SCOTUS will vote 5-4 thanks to Gorsuch.

Cha

(298,125 posts)
3. Seems more than likely that the SCOTUS
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 04:20 PM
Jun 2018

thanks to the conjobs including GorSucks will let the monster get away with making $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ while he's Robbing the Country Blind.. and Fucking up the World.

SergeStorms

(19,208 posts)
7. This might be a dumb question, but .....
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 06:02 PM
Jun 2018

why is the Justice Department representing Trump in this case? That's THE PEOPLE'S Justice Department, damn it!

Volaris

(10,281 posts)
8. No allegation of official action in exchange
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 06:10 PM
Jun 2018

They had better damn well hope that there's not so much as a half an iota of anything to the contrary if that's gonna be their argument. I wouldn't bet money that they're right lol.

dansolo

(5,376 posts)
9. Why is the Justice Department involved in defending this case?
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 06:24 PM
Jun 2018

Isn't this lawsuit against Trump personally? Why isn't his personal lawyers involved?

SergeStorms

(19,208 posts)
10. I asked the same question, but....
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 06:36 PM
Jun 2018

haven't received a reply. I'm sure someone more knowledgeable about the law will come along sooner or later and shed some light on this. It certainly doesn't seem right in my book.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Judge in Emoluments Case ...