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kentuck

(111,111 posts)
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 08:18 PM Jun 2018

We need to return to history and civics in our classrooms.

Young people need to understand how our system of government works and what has happened in our past. There should be an educational reform agenda.

It should be obvious to even the most dim-witted person that our democracy is not guaranteed to last. We can lose it at any time.

Young people need to understand what can happen when people like Hitler and Stalin come to power. History is important so that we do not repeat the mistakes of the past.

Civics should teach our young people that everyone has a responsibility as a citizen. We should not wander thru the world oblivious to what is going on around us.

In the truest America, your vote is the most important possession that you have as a citizen.

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We need to return to history and civics in our classrooms. (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2018 OP
Hear hear! defacto7 Jun 2018 #1
I hold both BA and MA in History. Adsos Letter Jun 2018 #2
In principle, I agree wholeheartedly. In practice, however, unblock Jun 2018 #3
That is to be expected, I suppose? kentuck Jun 2018 #5
If there's a good textbook used nationally, cool. unblock Jun 2018 #6
As a former elementary school teacher I tried and tried. BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #4
Yes! That leaves the problem of home environment, though. Hortensis Jun 2018 #7
Nothing is perfect. kentuck Jun 2018 #8
History and civics are still taught. demmiblue Jun 2018 #9
When did it stop?? kentuck Jun 2018 #10
Children didn't stop learning. And those topics are still taught. demmiblue Jun 2018 #14
It is thanks to high school Civics (called Liberty and the Law in my school district) that I'm a Dem The Genealogist Jun 2018 #11
Well said! kentuck Jun 2018 #12
Thank you! The Genealogist Jun 2018 #13

unblock

(52,502 posts)
3. In principle, I agree wholeheartedly. In practice, however,
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 08:31 PM
Jun 2018

you know there are right-wing school boards out there who will insist on brainwashing kids with an extraordinarily warped view of American history and civics and founding principles and so on....

kentuck

(111,111 posts)
5. That is to be expected, I suppose?
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 08:47 PM
Jun 2018

Kids learn from kids. So long as we could get good textbooks into the hands of a majority of children, then we, at least, have a chance at saving our democracy, in my opinion.

unblock

(52,502 posts)
6. If there's a good textbook used nationally, cool.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 08:51 PM
Jun 2018

But I'd bet some states and school districts would be teaching a Nazi version of things.

But yeah, at least we'd be convincing the good kids to get out there and vote....

BigmanPigman

(51,670 posts)
4. As a former elementary school teacher I tried and tried.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 08:37 PM
Jun 2018

I wrote to the state for years hoping they would change the curriculum. It needs to begin YOUNG!. I taught my first graders how to vote and why we vote. They LOVED it and we did it throughout the school year for various issues. I had to "sneak teach" a lot of subjects to my students. All decent teachers do these days. They do not get it at home and all we do at school is "teach to the test" and how to take the damned tests (6 year olds can't do standardized tests 3 times a year when they can't even read well yet). The whole system is ridiculous.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Yes! That leaves the problem of home environment, though.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 08:57 PM
Jun 2018

I remember back in California a TV street interview of two girls right after they graduated high school. The interviewer asked both bright, confident girls how many senators each state sent to congress. Neither had any idea. In those days these girls would have first been formally taught this in elementary school and then again in junior high and high school. That neither girl ever felt it was something they needed to know was the school district's problem, all right, but not its creation.

kentuck

(111,111 posts)
8. Nothing is perfect.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 08:59 PM
Jun 2018

Or will work to perfection. But, in my opinion, it is something we should try to instill in our education system.

demmiblue

(36,920 posts)
14. Children didn't stop learning. And those topics are still taught.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 09:50 PM
Jun 2018

The students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas would certainly disagree with your assessment.




Have you ever read the social studies standards from your state?

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
11. It is thanks to high school Civics (called Liberty and the Law in my school district) that I'm a Dem
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 09:34 PM
Jun 2018

It had nothing to do with indoctrination, and everything to do with learning how the government works, as well as who stands for what. Until I took that course in High School, I had only a basic understanding of what the government was about. They spoke about it in earlier Social Studies course work, of course, but this was the first in-depth look at the subject.

My father's side are all Republicans. My mother's side are mostly Democrats. Dad's side is far more vocal and, well, authoritarian about their politics. My mother having died when I was a child, of course I lived with my father. So, I was on the way to becoming another Republican. Thing is, I was really only parroting what I heard. Democrats bad because Democrats! Or something like that. By the end of the course, and my first real exposure to what the Democrats actually stood for, I knew on which side of the fence I really belonged.

Like I say, the instructor in no way influenced me, nor do I recall any biases in the course materials. It was simply the exposure. I think every school kid deserves the opportunity to see what the government and politics are about. They can't make informed decisions in the ballot box without it.

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