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(52,504 posts)
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 10:17 PM Jun 2018

any reason why we shouldn't figure that any missing children have been sex trafficked?

seriously, there's no excuse not to be able to return children to their parent.

day care centers have this routine easily mastered, it's not rocket surgery.


given that there's no legitimate purpose in separating parents from children in the first place, and that some of the separations will likely be permanent, one would have to presume that that was the intent.

and why would they intend to permanently separate parents from their children other than for the purpose of sex trafficking?

the "deterrence" argument is plainly false and idiotic.

the trafficking explanation may be heinous, but it makes much more sense as an explanation for their actions.

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any reason why we shouldn't figure that any missing children have been sex trafficked? (Original Post) unblock Jun 2018 OP
Especially with the story cilla4progress Jun 2018 #1
No reason not to believe they are being trafficked. Oh holy shit, I hope they haven't had their Leghorn21 Jun 2018 #2
It's best to assume they will be The Blue Flower Jun 2018 #3
Let's not start this type of rumors Louis1895 Jun 2018 #4
There's no reason to give Red Don the benefit of the doubt !! They're scum, I wouldn't give them uponit7771 Jun 2018 #6
are you seriously giving me bothsiderism on this??? unblock Jun 2018 #9
When you're doing the exact same thing, yep mythology Jun 2018 #22
But That is exactly what they Do! Blame the other for Wwcd Jun 2018 #12
I agree w you. Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #26
Pizzagate was PROJECTION, IMO CakeGrrl Jun 2018 #14
Yes, Projection. Thanks..edited Wwcd Jun 2018 #18
Wow Louis1895 Jun 2018 #20
it's not a Rumor. the Concern is a REAL concern based on history around the world JI7 Jun 2018 #21
No, let's ck4829 Jun 2018 #25
THANK YOU !!! There's NO REASON to give Benedict Donald the benefit of the doubt !!! uponit7771 Jun 2018 #5
Exactly sheshe2 Jun 2018 #29
I would imagine this subject is the one many mothers have silently wept about...I know I have. Frustratedlady Jun 2018 #7
When you consider the history of Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein, and Mar-a-Lago... NO. RockRaven Jun 2018 #8
Forgot about that Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #27
Trump's history of human trafficking of young women thru his front Modeling Co. Wwcd Jun 2018 #10
Bingo. roamer65 Jun 2018 #15
One reason is mshasta Jun 2018 #11
Exactly. And when you confuse the identifying papers between Wwcd Jun 2018 #16
I don't trust it not happening considering that they likely LiberalFighter Jun 2018 #13
That's my working assumption Crunchy Frog Jun 2018 #17
Same here . They are theives & murderers. That's the world they live in. Wwcd Jun 2018 #19
Nope. raven mad Jun 2018 #23
I've suspected for some time now gypsy11 Jun 2018 #24
Good grief. Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #28
I'm going to say it... SummerSnow Jun 2018 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author walkingman Jun 2018 #31

Leghorn21

(13,527 posts)
2. No reason not to believe they are being trafficked. Oh holy shit, I hope they haven't had their
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 10:22 PM
Jun 2018

act together long enough to implement such a plan, but YES, it’s entirely possible because, as my intel tweeters have taught me, THIS IS WHAT MOBSTERS DO

GodDAMit

Louis1895

(768 posts)
4. Let's not start this type of rumors
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 10:25 PM
Jun 2018

That is what the RWNJs did to Hillary with their pedophilia ring conspiracy theory.

I think Trump and his minions are purely evil and want to inflict maximum pain on these immigrants. They are the worst kind of people and have not bothered to plan this out. They do not care about others they have no empathy.

uponit7771

(90,371 posts)
6. There's no reason to give Red Don the benefit of the doubt !! They're scum, I wouldn't give them
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 10:26 PM
Jun 2018

... a mm of space they'd do anything for money

Why hide them ??!!?

Why not let everyone see quick fast ?!?!

There's no reason to give these bastards the benefit of the doubt

unblock

(52,504 posts)
9. are you seriously giving me bothsiderism on this???
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 10:30 PM
Jun 2018

the hillary pedophilia ring lie was a complete whackadoodle fabrication made up out of whole cloth based on absolutely nothing.

we have documentation of thousands of children pried away from their parents for no good reason and officials and former officials telling us that some of these separations will be permanent and others telling us they have no good way to reunited them in many cases.

we have documentation of many of the elements of sex trafficking.

i'm not claiming we have all of them, but good grief, at what point will you get suspicious??

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
22. When you're doing the exact same thing, yep
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 07:16 AM
Jun 2018

There is exactly zero evidence of sex rings in either case. You would be just as substantiated if you said Martians abducted them.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
12. But That is exactly what they Do! Blame the other for
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:01 PM
Jun 2018

This method from Joseph Goebbles is allso straight out of Karl Rove's playbook.

They created Pizzagate from the crimes of their own doing.


We've watched Goebbles playbook come to life many times with Trump.
This art of Projection is most prominent with Trump's propaganda.

Pizzagate is THEM, not HRC.


edit: add projection

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
14. Pizzagate was PROJECTION, IMO
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:07 PM
Jun 2018

Trump adviser George Nader had a 1991 conviction for CHILD PORNOGRAPHY.

Whatever they accuse others of doing, they are doing themselves.

The RWNJs put the Pizzagate accusation out there to deflect from what someone associated with Trump may be doing.

Louis1895

(768 posts)
20. Wow
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 07:04 AM
Jun 2018

I guess everyone wants to push the same narrative. The sex trafficking idea also occurred to me but I did not want to voice that idea without evidence.

I DO believe the government is being willfully incompetent.

They DO want these children to suffer as a deterrent to other parents seeking asylum.

They DO NOT care about the long-term damage they are doing to the children, their families, and others (including those of us who have hearts and care)!

This is state-sponsored terrorism.

Every governor should know whether there are children being fostered in their states and by whom. They should make certain those “foster” parents have been vetted properly. Child protective services should be called in to protect the child.

Moving children across state borders should be another angle to get this policy revoked on a national level by the federal courts.

Sex trafficking by our government? I am not ready to go there.

Yet.

JI7

(89,289 posts)
21. it's not a Rumor. the Concern is a REAL concern based on history around the world
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 07:09 AM
Jun 2018

when you do things like this it puts kids at risk . especially girls.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
7. I would imagine this subject is the one many mothers have silently wept about...I know I have.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 10:26 PM
Jun 2018

I'm sure sex trafficking of children is a huge money maker and the creeps don't miss many opportunities.

If this is ever found to be true, the uprising will be historical.

RockRaven

(15,097 posts)
8. When you consider the history of Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein, and Mar-a-Lago... NO.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 10:29 PM
Jun 2018

I don't think there's any grand organized conspiracy, but Trump -- never mind the people he associated with -- is awful enough that it is not out of bounds to consider it.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
10. Trump's history of human trafficking of young women thru his front Modeling Co.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 10:53 PM
Jun 2018

They were brought from Eastern Europe.
The men in Trump's circle..the Boris Epstyen's,

Kushner talking about Adoptions in Trump Tower with their Putin's dealmakers.

The only thing Trump didn't have ready to seal the deal was...children to traffic.


I have no doubt in all I've read of Trump, his history, & the criminal circle he exists in, that this more likely a part of what is going on, than not.

He would sell his own children for a mob deal.

This is the world of Donald Trump.

We never really knew what Kushner Don Jr & their Russian partners in the Trump Tower meeting meant when they talked about 'adoptions'.

There's a chilling picture emerging & I hope for these stolen children's sake, that I am wrong.

**Here is a post I made recently about FIFA & the trafficking of young people specifically for this event in Russia.

It talks of how Putin eased the requirements of those entering the country. 'Special Passes.'

Its an eye-opening apalling read:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016208533

SNIP

World Cup: NAPTIP foils child trafficking plot at Lagos airport

Jun 13, 2018 | The Nigerian Voice

National Agency for Prohibition of Trafficking in Persons (NAPTIP) on Tuesday said 10 Nigerian children have been rescued from human traffickers planning to fly them to Russia and exploit relaxed visa controls for the World Cup.

NAPTIP said five suspects, including a policeman and a quarantine officer, were arrested at the Murtala Muhammed International Airport (MMIA) Lagos, for allegedly recruiting the victims – nine girls and a boy – and facilitating their travel.



The children – who were all in possession of a FIFA fan pass – were intercepted by officials as they tried to board a flight to Moscow on Saturday night, according to the agency.

Five other potential victims, also children, were stopped from boarding when staff noticed they only had one-way tickets.

Officials in Nigeria said last month they had intelligence showing plans were underway to traffic local women to Russia for the World Cup, taking advantage of Moscow’s decision to let spectators enter the country with just a ticket and a fan pass.

“The agency will not give traffickers any opportunity to use the World Cup to ferry Nigerians out into a life of misery abroad,” NAPTIP’s Director-General Julie Okah-Donli said in a statement.

Visa-free entry to Russia was trialled at the Confederations Cup in Moscow last year, and will apply to the entire World Cup, which runs across 11 Russian cities from June 14 to July 15.

Julia Siluyanova of Russian anti-slavery group Alternativa last month told the Thomson Reuters Foundation the eased visa rules were a “present for traffickers”, as its normally strict system had typically made trafficking time-consuming and costly.

MORE AT LINK..





mshasta

(2,108 posts)
11. One reason is
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 10:58 PM
Jun 2018

Rich white American guys ...pedo ring


Foster care government monthly check another good reason for scamming the system
Kids who don’t speak English are ideal for predators

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
16. Exactly. And when you confuse the identifying papers between
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:10 PM
Jun 2018

the stolen border children & their parent/s enough to simply 'lose' a few hundred, it would be easy to never have to answer for their whereabouts.

As Kirstjen Nelson blankly replied, "I Don't Know".

The only answer she had to give.

Crunchy Frog

(26,722 posts)
17. That's my working assumption
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:12 PM
Jun 2018

until I see some very convincing evidence suggesting otherwise.

These "people" are complete degenerates.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
19. Same here . They are theives & murderers. That's the world they live in.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 11:21 PM
Jun 2018

I will believe this about the selling of children to be true until proven otherwise.
They represent the worst of criminal acts

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
23. Nope.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 07:27 AM
Jun 2018

None. I didn't even think about this, but the spouse brought it up, especially after the sex trafficing stuff with Bannon came out.

gypsy11

(341 posts)
24. I've suspected for some time now
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 07:33 AM
Jun 2018

that human trafficking is part of that evil orange POS game. Like one poster said up tread- it's what mobsters do. I suspect that's part of what Putin has on him too. What they're doing with these kids makes it hard NOT to suspect this is really what's going on here.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
30. I'm going to say it...
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 05:43 PM
Jun 2018

The girls are being hidden and carted off cause some of them were sexually assaulted. This is why they won't allow the media in or those in office to see the girls. Those girls will speak up and Trump knows and I bet that HHS woman knows it too. This the last thing he wants to get out. This is my opinion and it will probably be deleted.

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