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A shaking cartoon from Plantu, a French cartoonist well-known for fighting all kinds of extremism (Original Post) syringis Jun 2018 OP
Great cartoon Gothmog Jun 2018 #1
By far most of these refugee children are from Central America's Hortensis Jun 2018 #2
Hi Hortensis syringis Jun 2018 #3
Hi, Syringis. Thanks for the cartoon. Hortensis Jun 2018 #4
You're welcome Hortensis :) syringis Jun 2018 #5
Glad people like you are adding needed perspective. Hortensis Jun 2018 #6
Thanks for the posting. TomSlick Jun 2018 #7

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. By far most of these refugee children are from Central America's
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 10:04 AM
Jun 2018

deeply troubled nations farther south, like Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras. These parents brought their children thousands of miles, didn't just catch a Mexican bus to the border. And the parents being deported without their children are not being dumped across the border into Mexico but shipped thousands of miles away from them.

And crossing Mexico is dangerous for refugees because of the criminal gangs that prey on them, but Mexican gangs are not the creators of this large refugee crisis.

Good cartoon, but its creator should know his subject.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Hi, Syringis. Thanks for the cartoon.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 11:57 AM
Jun 2018

We're very fond of Mexico, though, and this hugely misinforms readers about what is happening.
It belittles the scope of the Americas' refugee problem and what the refugees face, and it insults Mexico.

This gentleman can't put this all in his cartoon, of course, but people need to know that the western hemisphere's part of this extremely long and dangerous migrant corridor runs through South America and Central America (picking up many here these days) and continues through Mexico to get to the U.S. border.

But it's also part of a global route to the U.S., with beginnings in many other parts of the world, though, including Africa and Asia. Despite what our media coverage is suggesting, the refugees arriving at Mexico's southern border, and eventually ours, speak many languages. I've read that few speak Spanish. Another thought to add to what these children must be suffering in our detention camps.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
5. You're welcome Hortensis :)
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:22 PM
Jun 2018

I know that. Here a comment I wrote last year in the Figaro (French newspaper), it was a reply to someone who pointed out that most immigrants were not Mexicans.

En réalité, ce sont même ces migrants venus d'Amérique Centrale et du Sud qui posent problème. Bien plus que les mexicains.
Objectivement, l'économie mexicaine ne se porte pas si mal. Il a bien sûr des problèmes mais ceux qui passent la frontière pour s'installer aux US, sont bien moins nombreux qu'on ne le pense. Comme vous le soulignez justement, Le Mexique est lui-même confronté à d'importantes vagues de migrants du fait qu'il constitue un couloir d'accès vers les US.
Le mur voulu par Trump est d'une absurdité sans nom.

D'ailleurs, l'Histoire a déjà prouvé à maintes reprises, dans diverses régions du monde, qu'aucun mur n'a jamais constitué une barrière efficace. Loin s'en faut.


In fact, it is these migrants from Central and South America who are the problem. Much more than the Mexicans.
Objectively, the Mexican economy is not doing bad. Mexicans who cross the border to settle in the US are far fewer than we think.
As you rightly point out, Mexico itself faces significant waves of migrants because it is a gateway to the US.
Trump's wall is an absurdity with no name. History has already proved time and again in various parts of the world that no wall has ever been an effective barrier. It is far from it.


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Glad people like you are adding needed perspective.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 12:35 PM
Jun 2018

And thanks for the translation. High school French was a very long time ago.

Hear Trump is cancelling the congressional picnic and, oh yes, "signing something" to stop tearing children away from their parents.

TomSlick

(11,150 posts)
7. Thanks for the posting.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 06:35 PM
Jun 2018

My high school French teacher would be proud. I managed to guess at a translation.

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