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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere's something else going on. I can feel it.
This border policy is horrific to be sure.
But the administration is actually letting it stay in the news cycle anyway. Which leads me to believe that this is a smoke-screen for something even more horrendous.
My guy tells me to stop being so negative, but every time I think things couldn't get any worse, they do.
I can't even begin to venture to guess what is so terrible that this Administration would let the press, the public, the clergy, etc, keep hammering this point in order to keep the focus off of something else.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)They have input from The Evil Putin and others with zero respect for humanity.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)"Most of the time it's not conspiracy, just stupidity."
I think that applies here.
MissMillie
(38,614 posts).
uponit7771
(90,371 posts)bdamomma
(63,975 posts)when they got people into a frenzy and then the Courts handled it and said tRump can't do it. Do you think this is what is happening?
As horrible as this is, the trump regime could be doing something more horrendous than this behind the scenes. You notice that they are not talking about the Russian investigation, and Mueller is still doing his job.
mahina
(17,775 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)The OP overestimates Trump's ability to control the press on this. There's been talk that he's going to fire Mueller. Guessing that's about the only thing, short of having the military invade Canada or nuking Iran, that could divert a fair share of attention from Trump's persecution of children for political advantage.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)It is conspiracy, stupidity and real evil. These people don't care, they are haters and they will stop at nothing to continue enriching themselves while causing pain to everyone else.
How is it possible that the lack of decency from republicans can go along with an evil liar? How can they go to bed with what is going on? I ask myself those questions and then I remember that the criminal mind works in very different ways, and for most people it is hard to understand, but a criminal will kill someone, then an hour later he may be in a pub drinking with his bodies as if nothing happened, the criminal mind in government works the same, only that the consequences are huge. The criminal mind does not have a concept of consequences, that is trump's worst character flow, that is why he is so lacking of empathy.
I have been wondering that if the press starts "following the money" on what is happening with the kids, I wonder if trump's little hands may be trying to enrich from this horrible exercise, and maybe their kids are involved in it too.
The question of why are republicans in power so quiet?
trump is the mafia, and the modus operandi of the mafia is to get you involved in their crimes and that is how they tie your hands, you become an accomplice, they force you to go with their plans and shut your mouth. That is my take on all of this...Ryan, McConnell are implicated, they were part of the conspiracy with the Russians, their hands are tied and they must comply with the whims of the man-child. What a hateful SOB trump is...
FM123
(10,054 posts)MissMillie
(38,614 posts)I think it's a coin toss.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)because they're knee deep in collusion, and/or they haven't finished with their own evil agenda. I.e. cuts to SS and Medicare, more tax cuts for the richey rich.
OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)Old Vet
(2,001 posts)Its a distraction , it's always about money.
mitch96
(13,948 posts)I think it's a ploy to distract about the Russian probe.. It's all about Russia and Putin with
tRump.. That's why Putin put him there...
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bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)They rolled out the 2019 budget.
Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)They want this because they think it shows them as strong.
That was something that I think it was Willie Geist brought up on Morning Joe today in that to Trump and others like Miller, Bannon, et al, they view the images being shown as how they're strong.
They employed the same strategy with Syrian refugees seeking asylum.
It's no different here, just that those coming across are being stopped at the border as opposed to airports and the like in limited numbers.
They are, quite plainly, showing us who they are once again.
Glorfindel
(9,750 posts)Something truly horrendous lurking just beneath the surface while everyone's attention is diverted toward the cruelty and inhumanity going on at the southern border. A military coup to "restore order"? I wouldn't put anything past these monsters.
mgardener
(1,825 posts)Human Rights commission.
Anybody hear about that?
He will use these children as hostages to get his wall built.
But I hope the US people will rise up against Trump and republicans.
Email or call the White House and your Congress and Senate reps. EVERY DAY.
And tell them what a poor job they are doing.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)When I get that "something bad is about to happen" feeling in my stomach, I'm usually right. It's usually that one of my kids is traveling and I fear an accident or worse. I do have one coming home today, but that isn't it. This is bigger. "He" is either up to something nasty or he is SO mad, he is throwing all caution to the wind and going for the nastiest. Since we don't think like the King, it is hard to figure out.
Or, they took away his Big Macs.
bdamomma
(63,975 posts)of the nuclear arsenal, but wait isn't he friends with Kim/NK?
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)President Deflection Trump.
bdamomma
(63,975 posts)and taking out his frustration on children and parents. This is inhumane, but then again he will always be an a$$hole.
Lindsay
(3,276 posts)I think this is a show of power. "This is what we're doing, and you can't stop us." They're not allowing any independent oversight, so to that extent they're in control of the information.
agreed.
Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)Why are they keeping this shit show going. But I have concluded that they may just be that stupid. I hope I'm right. But my gut is telling me you might be.
Johnny2X2X
(19,311 posts)Hes a fascist and what he wants so he can consolidate power is for Americans to hate one another. Not since the Civil War has our country been this divided and have factions harbored so much disdain for fellow Americans.
As deplorable as they are, we cannot let this continue. We cannot let 1/3 of this country drift away into fascism.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,440 posts)Trumpy is a fascist and he's evil. If there were no such thing as fascism, Trumpy would be just as evil in a different way. But fascism is here and he's shoving it in our faces. This is what they do.
kentuck
(111,111 posts)Although I believe they think this immigration policy is a winner for them in the next election.
BumRushDaShow
(130,120 posts)bdamomma
(63,975 posts)he is lashing out in full bully mode, hope it all flies back in their faces.
raven mad
(4,940 posts)I've been called a "sensitive" whatever that means, but I am scared. And I'm way far away, but sTrumpet is a psychopath, and most of his enablers are sociopaths...............
No one can get through to them. Anthem "MINE MINE MINE" strikes perfect for every single one. Or "Money money money"........... and "power power power".
How can anyone live like that?
We're moving all of 4 miles from where we've lived for a bit; landlord got into a financial bind, and had to sell. We didn't want to buy, we'd lost too much $$ doing that during Shrub. Landlord? Deep faith Christian and means it, and has decided to rescind his republican party membership.............. The guy is loaning us his truck, and trailer.
THAT is a Xtian!
I stay up almost all night, because when I sleep? I dream, and most are scary. Lived through the Cuban Missile Crisis in south Florida. Lived through the asshole Pipeline years in Alaska, lived in Alabama where I swear - I got in a Baptist preacher's face HARD.
I'm getting too old for this. But I won't quit and neither will you. Oh, old USAF gal here. I would have set the helo down on his head just to see if it would tame the toupee.........
Enjoy your guy, live life - and
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I think a full plan of more hate is afoot and this story broke earlier than the administration wanted it to. The calling up of immigration court staff next month has something to do with it. I think they were planning an enormous mass deportation in the next two months and were going to sell it bigly. I think that was their timing. They are now trapped in a box. This broke when they didn't want it to. I fully believe they had plans to campaign on next months mass deportations.
Demsrule86
(68,861 posts)will.
bdamomma
(63,975 posts)WTF. There are more of us than them, but I can see that they are dividing the people, what is that saying "Divide and conquer", or is it "United we stand, divided we fall".
I say United we stand.
Demsrule86
(68,861 posts)not playing well.
nature-lover
(1,473 posts)The Democrats who were willing to ride this out and hope for a change have come to realize that merely being hopeful is not enough.
Demsrule86
(68,861 posts)And I agree.
MissMillie
(38,614 posts)Certainly they all are in the House.
But if enough "purple" states are in play in the Senate, the polls indicate that this issue is a loser for him (at least the last polls I heard about).
Ninga
(8,282 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,047 posts)Trump is taking a huge risk with the horrible border policy/crime.
It could sink him and the GOP.... maybe even more than Mueller.
Whatever it is, they are clearly up to something.
Ninga
(8,282 posts)the ready.
This baby-gate is spilling over....45 must be happy.
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)they've seen the "tax scam" unfavorable #'s and have decided this is their 2018 strategy.. more divide, DACA.. wall.. "infestation" of darker people.. and the rubes are buying in.. it's just a matter of seeing if enough of the uninformed people will wake up and come out to vote.. because the bigots are very motivated..
Mc Mike
(9,118 posts)And make sure everything looks like it's on fire, when he tries to get rid of Mueller and Rosenstein.
ADX
(1,622 posts)...take your pick. This scumbag and his administration always have something that needs to be distracted from...
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,088 posts)HAB911
(8,957 posts)lovemydogs
(575 posts)One. I heard he thinks it makes him look strong to his base if he is 'tough' on immigrants.
He won't back down because he fears it will make him look weak.
Two. He usually stirs up stuff right before a big thing comes down from Mueller.
Lonestarblue
(10,178 posts)Trumps state propaganda machine of Fox News has been extremely supportive and dragged out all kinds of comparisons to make this seem okaylike when U.S. citizens go to jail they lose their children, of course ignoring the fact that you only go to jail for convicted crimes, not misdemeanors, and your children can visit you in jail and you know exactly where they are. My disgust grows by the day.
Snackshack
(2,541 posts)This is a diversionary tactic. Rep. Shelia Jackson Lee stated that trump intends to fire Rosenstein Friday. This immigration situation has the entire country looking at one thing. I would not be surprised at all if she is right and trump goes for the throat of the Russian investigation, while everyone is looking the other way, to end it.
Nictuku
(3,623 posts)No one is talking about it.
When Trump was elected, I said then, and I say now, we are witnessing the biggest heist in the history of the world.
Mark my words.
Check out what their immoral budget entails:
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-promises-cuts-medicare-medicaid-social-security-36a0e8a57ae0/
thisaintright
(15 posts)there are certainly deeper and more sinister things in the works. This policy had been in force for weeks before it became an issue, so what else is being implemented that we won't hear about until it's too late...?
lark
(23,203 posts)Is drumpf so stupid he thinks he can get it through if everyone is distracted by his rampant child abuse? If so, it won't work and just shows his utter stupidity and willful ignorance. It also shows he's a man of pure hate and doesn't mind destroying many thousands of lives just to have a show for the KKK & Nazis that support him. He is truly the worst person ever, if he's doing this now when he has to run for re-election, just think what will be done after russia steals another election for him! That's when he will gin up some kind of emergency and suspend the constitution, forever, making himself dictator for life.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)with this sick, sick - enrich the rich and screw everyone else - republican budget.
dembotoz
(16,866 posts)ancianita
(36,238 posts)Srkdqltr
(6,391 posts)They are holding these children hostage for the wall. When a bill goes through to fund the wall he will release the children. Who knows if they will find the right parent for the child. ........What ever you do to the least of these you do unto me..... direct from Jesus.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)you are correct. Gut feelings should be acknowledged and believed until proven one way or another. These repthugliKKKan devils are just that, devils.
tomp
(9,512 posts)This is classic authoritarinism and trump is a classic authoritarian.
It is trump's modus operandi and his raison d'etre to figure out "How far can I go?" "How much red meat can I throw to the base without political backlash that hurts me overall?"
He must maintain and, if possible, expand his base. He is always working that edge. That is what he has always done and he keeps doing it because it has always worked for him.
What is going on all the time is trump trying to consolidate and increase his power, which translates into money.
That is also what most politicians are doing.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,525 posts)Would not surprise me if the base gets even larger because of this. I'm almost 69 and lots of older geezers I know here in Florida say its terrible what's going on BUT they respect the fact that someone - tRump, is finally trying to secure our borders. No talking to that kind of ignorance.
IronLionZion
(45,673 posts)with this administration, what you see is what you get. They need to be held accountable and they're seeing how far they can go before Congress or the courts finally check and balances them.
OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,440 posts)This is a fascist takeover, backed by Putin. There can be no equivocation. This is reality.
Sanity Claws
(21,866 posts)Trump is doing Putin's bidding. Having the U.S. in turmoil will prevent us from responding to shit that Putin is planning. Keep in mind that Putin has already succeeded in separating us from our NATO allies. Is Putin about to test NATO with some kind of action in Europe?
Anon-C
(3,430 posts)Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)Because my head's stuck in "worst case scenario" these days.
Lulu KC
(2,579 posts)I am picturing tanks on the streets. Preceded by ICE beating up demonstrators.
But in the meantime, in the House, bills are being introduced to cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
We must stay alert to so many rings in this circus.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)the administration (and the country) is at the mercy of an unhinged and delusional narcissist. There isn't a deeper explanation there, they're not playing 4d chess; Trump's monstrous ego won't let him back down.
pecosbob
(7,550 posts)One of his paymasters, the Saudis are currently invading Yemen...not surprisingly, very little news coverage. Then there's his paymaster Vladimir Putin who is currently engaged in a multi-faceted attack on Ukraine, NATO and the G7. Not much coverage there, either. Be prepared for escalation in any of these areas, or even additional moves in Syria in support of Assad.
Grammy23
(5,815 posts)that something unthinkable is brewing. I have even looked for escape routes. I told my husband I thought we should sell our property (two houses) and search for another country. I started looking at strategies of how one goes for long stays in say France or Italy. Weve been to both places for short vacations and liked both. But not sure how you stay longer. I know you can stay for 90 days before you need to do something else to legally stay. However, It may be too late to do things like sell property. 😩
The situation is the US is building to something we had not imagined could happen, although others among us have been warning us. tRump (and his minions) are working overtime to accomplish their goals. Up next? Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. If they start to mess around with those, those who are asleep will get a rude awakening. If they dismantle those programs, a lot of people will be rendered destitute overnight. I cannot imagine what they will do. Those of us with a few resources will still be facing huge financial burdens if our base incomes get gutted.
Keep your eye on the ball, people. Something wicked this way comes. 😢
bdamomma
(63,975 posts)world wide wally
(21,762 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Who knows what the criminal Trump administration will do.
They are stealing babies and locking them up in concentration camps even as we speak!
bucolic_frolic
(43,544 posts)Firing Mueller and shutting down the investigation and pardoning everyone including himself
Could we keep 2 outrages going at the same time and intensity?
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)Not a coincidence that he's been palling around with dictators, openly drooling at their ability to murder their own people without so much as a peep from those he has absolute control over.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Something impactful.
Courage
jalan48
(13,917 posts)government positions. Agencies like the FBI, NSA and CIA led by Trump supporters can give Trump tremendous, behind the scenes power.
nolabels
(13,133 posts)Everything is going on. This looks to be the summer of discontent. When all of the songs of the sixties make sense you will know where you're at.
Do you think all these ghouls that had to hide in the woodwork will at this time will just be sitting back and watching at this time when they know this IS their time? I expect the worst of these right-wing folks and the hatred they harbor. They are working each other into a lather, figure it out
C Moon
(12,227 posts)dajoki
(10,678 posts)and mostly its Treason!!
catrose
(5,079 posts)Slicing and dicing Medicare, SS, Medicaid, and other things dear to our hearts, anathema to theirs
Iggo
(47,600 posts)TimeToGo
(1,366 posts)Certainly wouldn't put it past them to be planning something even more horrendous.
That said, it's possible they've overshot this -- that they've just simply messed up (I'm talking the politics, not the actual which of course is way beyond messed up).
Nitram
(22,977 posts)MissMillie
(38,614 posts)I feel a sense of inevitability.
What I mean is this: I knew it was going to be bad, but in the beginning I actually used to wake in the morning thinking, "Did Mr. Trump do (say/tweet) something stupid or terrible?"
Now I wake up and say, "What stupid (or terrible) thing did Mr. Trump do (say/tweet)?"
It's as if his consistency keeps me from panicking. There's no element of surprise. I think if I thought I could be surprised, then I might panic.
Nitram
(22,977 posts)first step in giving up.
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)The only thing worse is killing them.