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malaise

(269,375 posts)
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 06:31 AM Jun 2018

It hit me last night that the kidnapping and hiding of these children

is the definition of the Deep State. Indeed they have their own Politburo outside of the established state as we know it.

From today it's Don the Con's POLITBURO
Lock them up.

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It hit me last night that the kidnapping and hiding of these children (Original Post) malaise Jun 2018 OP
Yes. They project everything. Silver Gaia Jun 2018 #1
That is true but the Politburo by definition malaise Jun 2018 #6
Have you heard one official... Cracklin Charlie Jun 2018 #2
That would mess up the for profit kiddy prisons, adoptions and human trafficking malaise Jun 2018 #4
I often wonder which is a higher priority for them. pangaia Jun 2018 #23
The money malaise Jun 2018 #25
Fascist Trump DHS has NO plan to re-unite children with parents. Truly evil ripping families apart Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #8
You are not missing anything. They have not spoken of a plan to reunite the families. dameatball Jun 2018 #12
I was just thinking the same thing. Ohioboy Jun 2018 #13
Reunification? First we need to find out whether the children are still alive. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #45
It's astonishing to think that children are being taken from people primarily being charged Vinca Jun 2018 #3
It's frightening malaise Jun 2018 #5
yes it can bdamomma Jun 2018 #35
Good morning sis malaise Jun 2018 #36
Misdemeanor Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #10
Perfect n/t malaise Jun 2018 #26
It is no longer astonish8img. Nothing is.. pangaia Jun 2018 #24
Is the kidnapping aspect a feature, or a bug? Cracklin Charlie Jun 2018 #40
After all the chanting of "lock her up", he "HAD" to lock up someone. flor-de-jasmim Jun 2018 #7
Can't wait until they malaise Jun 2018 #9
I don't know why Hillary doesn't go after him in any way she is able. ENOUGH! SammyWinstonJack Jun 2018 #11
She is not being given the coverage csziggy Jun 2018 #31
Strength of character. Cracklin Charlie Jun 2018 #41
True - that is why it pisses me off when someone claims she has not said anything csziggy Jun 2018 #42
Brilliant points. Kick and recommend bronxiteforever Jun 2018 #14
Exactly right! Ohioboy Jun 2018 #15
Does Stephen Miller The Wizard Jun 2018 #16
Great question n/t malaise Jun 2018 #27
he is probably bdamomma Jun 2018 #38
+1 ck4829 Jun 2018 #50
No, it is Trump and his Republican enablers in Congress who are doing this in broad daylight. Nitram Jun 2018 #17
The California judge on the Flores case needs to rule them ALL as breaking the law, and immediately ancianita Jun 2018 #18
+1,000 malaise Jun 2018 #22
The Peter Shey legal network needs to get those kids and take them back to their entry points for ancianita Jun 2018 #30
They will malaise Jun 2018 #32
Congress needs to do this, duforsure Jun 2018 #19
Not necessary and wastes time; it's already in the Flores v Sessions law. ancianita Jun 2018 #29
and Puerto Rico residents bdamomma Jun 2018 #39
Something to think about Bear Creek Jun 2018 #20
Remember the uproar Clinton and Reno got? SCVDem Jun 2018 #21
They supported Elian being separated from his father. N/t malaise Jun 2018 #28
if the 'deterrent' works and a lot fewer crossings or AlexSFCA Jun 2018 #33
Polls suggest that 17% of Americans malaise Jun 2018 #34
the numbers will increase by if they present it as effective AlexSFCA Jun 2018 #37
and the deep state won't allow any photographs or videos of these children in custody. spanone Jun 2018 #43
This is criminal malaise Jun 2018 #44
and trump thinks he fixed it all by putting his signature on a piece of paper spanone Jun 2018 #47
Are they still alive? Are they in this hemisphere? lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #46
Good questions ck4829 Jun 2018 #49
every human being in the world should be asking similar questions....these are CHILDREN spanone Jun 2018 #51
It's funny in a twisted sense. They made conspiracy theories about hidden kids. ck4829 Jun 2018 #48
Remember they also said Obama was going to lock them up malaise Jun 2018 #52

malaise

(269,375 posts)
6. That is true but the Politburo by definition
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 07:25 AM
Jun 2018

Is a parallel state for the inner circle accountable to no one.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
2. Have you heard one official...
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 07:17 AM
Jun 2018

Say anything about ensuring that these parents and children will be re-united?

I haven’t heard anyone say what should be a priority. Maybe I am just missing something. But it sure seems like someone should be saying, whether they mean it or not, that these kids will be reunited with their families.

malaise

(269,375 posts)
4. That would mess up the for profit kiddy prisons, adoptions and human trafficking
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 07:22 AM
Jun 2018

Never forget that while racism is a feature of this kakistocracy, another important aspect of this evil is enriching themselves.

dameatball

(7,411 posts)
12. You are not missing anything. They have not spoken of a plan to reunite the families.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 08:09 AM
Jun 2018

If they have one, it has not been clarified.

Ohioboy

(3,250 posts)
13. I was just thinking the same thing.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 08:20 AM
Jun 2018

No one seems to be doing any of the necessary followup, or even talking about it.

Vinca

(50,343 posts)
3. It's astonishing to think that children are being taken from people primarily being charged
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 07:20 AM
Jun 2018

with misdemeanor crimes. It's like police snatching the kids out of your car if you're arrested for shoplifting a can of tuna.

bdamomma

(63,978 posts)
35. yes it can
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:51 AM
Jun 2018

to those who are not kissing or standing up straight when the king approaches them.

he is a wanna be dictator, or as I like to spell a dic...tator.

malaise.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
40. Is the kidnapping aspect a feature, or a bug?
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:57 AM
Jun 2018

It all seems so nefarious. And sickening.

Why are they taking these children from their families? Why are they sending them so far away?

Someone needs to provide answers, PDQ! And get those little kids back to their parents! Every last one of them!

American Airlines, could you help arrange “love flights” to make this necessity happen?

flor-de-jasmim

(2,128 posts)
7. After all the chanting of "lock her up", he "HAD" to lock up someone.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 07:45 AM
Jun 2018

Someone should tell him to pick on someone his OWN size.

csziggy

(34,141 posts)
31. She is not being given the coverage
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:41 AM
Jun 2018

This is from Vox, not exactly a top media source:

Hillary Clinton on family separation: “Every human being with a sense of compassion and decency should be outraged”
The former presidential candidate slammed the Trump administration’s practice of separating immigrant parents and children as “horrific.”

By Emily Stewart Jun 18, 2018, 4:30pm EDT

Hillary Clinton squared off again with Donald Trump on Monday, calling the president’s insistence that Democrats are somehow to blame for his “zero-tolerance” immigration policy an outright lie and the practice of separating parents and children “horrific.”

“This is a moral and humanitarian crisis,” Clinton said. “Every one of us who’s ever been a parent or a grandparent, an aunt, a big sister, any one of us who’s ever held a child in our arms, every human being with a sense of compassion and decency, should be outraged.”

She made the remarks while speaking at an awards lunch for the Women’s Forum of New York on Monday.

The Trump administration recently implemented a “zero-tolerance” policy that includes separating children from their parents as they try to enter the United States seeking asylum at the US border, in what some say is an attempt to deter other potential migrants. The policy has sent shock waves around the country, igniting outrage on the part of immigration advocates, human rights groups, and citizens across the political spectrum.

More: https://www.vox.com/2018/6/18/17476268/hillary-clinton-family-separation-border-immigration


By the way, her campaign platform addressed the problems of immigrant families:

Immigration reform

Note: This page is a reproduction of the Hillary for America policy proposal on immigration reform.

Hillary has been committed to the immigrant rights community throughout her career. As president, she will work to fix our broken immigration system and stay true to our fundamental American values: that we are a nation of immigrants, and we treat those who come to our country with dignity and respect—and that we embrace immigrants, not denigrate them.

<SNIP>

*Do everything possible under the law to protect families. If Congress keeps failing to act on comprehensive immigration reform, Hillary will enact a simple system for those with sympathetic cases—such as parents of DREAMers, those with a history of service and contribution to their communities, or those who experience extreme labor violations—to make their case and be eligible for deferred action.

*Enforce immigration laws humanely. Immigration enforcement must be humane, targeted, and effective. Hillary will focus resources on detaining and deporting those individuals who pose a violent threat to public safety, and ensure refugees who seek asylum in the U.S. have a fair chance to tell their stories.

*End family detention and close private immigration detention centers. Hillary will end family detention for parents and children who arrive at our border in desperate situations and close private immigrant detention centers.

More: https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/immigration-reform/

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
41. Strength of character.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:06 AM
Jun 2018

The embodiment of “Be Best”, and a real girl.

She has put in decades of service, and has taken enough GOP (and other) punches for her country.

csziggy

(34,141 posts)
42. True - that is why it pisses me off when someone claims she has not said anything
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:13 AM
Jun 2018

Yes, she HAS! Just because the mass media has not chosen to publicize her comments does not mean she hasn't made them.

Hillary Clinton has done more for children's rights than practically any ten others have.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
14. Brilliant points. Kick and recommend
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 08:22 AM
Jun 2018

Yup.A deep state would take children from their parents and hide them and their condition from the press.

Ohioboy

(3,250 posts)
15. Exactly right!
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 08:25 AM
Jun 2018

This whole thing was planned and implemented in the dark. Efforts were made to keep it on the down low, even members of Congress were kept in the dark. Look at what Senator Merkley had to go through just to get a look at that abandoned Wal-mart.

bdamomma

(63,978 posts)
38. he is probably
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:54 AM
Jun 2018

profiting off this all those private companies that have these jails/detention/tents for these children.

He needs his ass called out, the media needs to be focused on him I think Ari Melber did a piece about him.

Nitram

(22,988 posts)
17. No, it is Trump and his Republican enablers in Congress who are doing this in broad daylight.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 08:30 AM
Jun 2018

The "Deep State" implies secret manipulation behind the scenes.

ancianita

(36,248 posts)
18. The California judge on the Flores case needs to rule them ALL as breaking the law, and immediately
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 08:32 AM
Jun 2018

Last edited Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:34 AM - Edit history (1)

return every single last child to his/her entry point (hopefully a parent, as well) or face jail time. Jail time.

From Sessions down to the foster parent -- ALL.

That is the basis of law -- make those who misunderstand it or break it COMPLY with it or go to jail.

ancianita

(36,248 posts)
30. The Peter Shey legal network needs to get those kids and take them back to their entry points for
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:38 AM
Jun 2018

parental retrieval.

malaise

(269,375 posts)
32. They will
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:43 AM
Jun 2018

They wil not rest until these kids are returned to their parents.
These vile racists are criminals and must be treated as such.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
19. Congress needs to do this,
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 08:53 AM
Jun 2018

Make all immigrant family who had their children ripped away from them , make them citizens with their children to right the wrong that's been done to them. The world is watching us now to do right, not continue doing wrong. We are better than trump. Do what's right Congress , and also stop trump from his damaging people of color like he did to the people of Puerto Rico.

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
20. Something to think about
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:05 AM
Jun 2018

I read an article yesterday about one of the sites used to house the children in Brownsville TX was an old WalMart store. The building went up for sale August 2016 and deal closed in December 2016. The building was sold through Chacbak for Southwest Key Programs. I wonder how many such transactions occurred. Sounds like they knew Trump was going to win. And this whole diabolical plan was made prior to the elections or it could just be coincidence.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
21. Remember the uproar Clinton and Reno got?
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:14 AM
Jun 2018

That was over one Elián González being returned to Cuba and his father,

The right was having a shit fit over the photo of a crying Elián and the armed agent.

Elián González is now 26.

Multiply that by 11,000. (My numbers are as accurate as Cheeeto's are!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli%C3%A1n_Gonz%C3%A1lez

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
33. if the 'deterrent' works and a lot fewer crossings or
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:48 AM
Jun 2018

they claim it is less then watch trump using this as a very effective policy talking point and say I wouldn't have to do it if i could just build a wall. Don’t underestimate 40+% of americans who dont care. GOP will ride along. They are now moving aggressively towards deconstructing federal agencies and abolishing medicare and SS and it remains to be seen if what the media is going to focus on with so much going on. Rebups want to pass as many things as they could before the end of the year.

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
37. the numbers will increase by if they present it as effective
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:53 AM
Jun 2018

welcome to 2018 America. This isn’t 1930s Germany with its highly educated population on average and much fewer capabilities as a nation.

spanone

(135,960 posts)
43. and the deep state won't allow any photographs or videos of these children in custody.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:18 AM
Jun 2018

what are they hiding?

what conditions are these children living in?

WHERE are these children?

can you imagine your son or daughter 'disappeared' by the good old USA and you don't even have a receipt for them?

goddamn this administration.

spanone

(135,960 posts)
47. and trump thinks he fixed it all by putting his signature on a piece of paper
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:24 AM
Jun 2018

so i'm sure he's done with it as far as the kids go...

we MUST keep this front and center until EVERY child is accounted for.

spanone

(135,960 posts)
51. every human being in the world should be asking similar questions....these are CHILDREN
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:33 AM
Jun 2018

many are BABIES

ck4829

(35,098 posts)
48. It's funny in a twisted sense. They made conspiracy theories about hidden kids.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:31 AM
Jun 2018

The whole thing about a child sex colony on Mars by Alex Jones, right? And of course, Pizzagate.

Then kids actually go missing and they shrug... but I guess they're real kids and they're dark skinned kids, so who cares, right?

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