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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt hit me last night that the kidnapping and hiding of these children
is the definition of the Deep State. Indeed they have their own Politburo outside of the established state as we know it.
From today it's Don the Con's POLITBURO
Lock them up.
Silver Gaia
(4,552 posts)This makes petfect sense.
malaise
(269,375 posts)Is a parallel state for the inner circle accountable to no one.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Say anything about ensuring that these parents and children will be re-united?
I havent heard anyone say what should be a priority. Maybe I am just missing something. But it sure seems like someone should be saying, whether they mean it or not, that these kids will be reunited with their families.
malaise
(269,375 posts)Never forget that while racism is a feature of this kakistocracy, another important aspect of this evil is enriching themselves.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)malaise
(269,375 posts)But they use racism to fuel fear while they enrich themselves
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,090 posts)dameatball
(7,411 posts)If they have one, it has not been clarified.
Ohioboy
(3,250 posts)No one seems to be doing any of the necessary followup, or even talking about it.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Vinca
(50,343 posts)with misdemeanor crimes. It's like police snatching the kids out of your car if you're arrested for shoplifting a can of tuna.
malaise
(269,375 posts)It's a this can happen to your kids too moment.
bdamomma
(63,978 posts)to those who are not kissing or standing up straight when the king approaches them.
he is a wanna be dictator, or as I like to spell a dic...tator.
malaise.
malaise
(269,375 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,090 posts)EarlG Picture of the Moment from a couple of days ago:
malaise
(269,375 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)It all seems so nefarious. And sickening.
Why are they taking these children from their families? Why are they sending them so far away?
Someone needs to provide answers, PDQ! And get those little kids back to their parents! Every last one of them!
American Airlines, could you help arrange love flights to make this necessity happen?
flor-de-jasmim
(2,128 posts)Someone should tell him to pick on someone his OWN size.
malaise
(269,375 posts)Lock him up.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)csziggy
(34,141 posts)This is from Vox, not exactly a top media source:
The former presidential candidate slammed the Trump administrations practice of separating immigrant parents and children as horrific.
By Emily Stewart Jun 18, 2018, 4:30pm EDT
Hillary Clinton squared off again with Donald Trump on Monday, calling the presidents insistence that Democrats are somehow to blame for his zero-tolerance immigration policy an outright lie and the practice of separating parents and children horrific.
This is a moral and humanitarian crisis, Clinton said. Every one of us whos ever been a parent or a grandparent, an aunt, a big sister, any one of us whos ever held a child in our arms, every human being with a sense of compassion and decency, should be outraged.
She made the remarks while speaking at an awards lunch for the Womens Forum of New York on Monday.
The Trump administration recently implemented a zero-tolerance policy that includes separating children from their parents as they try to enter the United States seeking asylum at the US border, in what some say is an attempt to deter other potential migrants. The policy has sent shock waves around the country, igniting outrage on the part of immigration advocates, human rights groups, and citizens across the political spectrum.
More: https://www.vox.com/2018/6/18/17476268/hillary-clinton-family-separation-border-immigration
By the way, her campaign platform addressed the problems of immigrant families:
Note: This page is a reproduction of the Hillary for America policy proposal on immigration reform.
Hillary has been committed to the immigrant rights community throughout her career. As president, she will work to fix our broken immigration system and stay true to our fundamental American values: that we are a nation of immigrants, and we treat those who come to our country with dignity and respectand that we embrace immigrants, not denigrate them.
<SNIP>
*Do everything possible under the law to protect families. If Congress keeps failing to act on comprehensive immigration reform, Hillary will enact a simple system for those with sympathetic casessuch as parents of DREAMers, those with a history of service and contribution to their communities, or those who experience extreme labor violationsto make their case and be eligible for deferred action.
*Enforce immigration laws humanely. Immigration enforcement must be humane, targeted, and effective. Hillary will focus resources on detaining and deporting those individuals who pose a violent threat to public safety, and ensure refugees who seek asylum in the U.S. have a fair chance to tell their stories.
*End family detention and close private immigration detention centers. Hillary will end family detention for parents and children who arrive at our border in desperate situations and close private immigrant detention centers.
More: https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/immigration-reform/
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)The embodiment of Be Best, and a real girl.
She has put in decades of service, and has taken enough GOP (and other) punches for her country.
csziggy
(34,141 posts)Yes, she HAS! Just because the mass media has not chosen to publicize her comments does not mean she hasn't made them.
Hillary Clinton has done more for children's rights than practically any ten others have.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)Yup.A deep state would take children from their parents and hide them and their condition from the press.
Ohioboy
(3,250 posts)This whole thing was planned and implemented in the dark. Efforts were made to keep it on the down low, even members of Congress were kept in the dark. Look at what Senator Merkley had to go through just to get a look at that abandoned Wal-mart.
The Wizard
(12,556 posts)have any ties to the making of child pornography or human trafficking?
malaise
(269,375 posts)bdamomma
(63,978 posts)profiting off this all those private companies that have these jails/detention/tents for these children.
He needs his ass called out, the media needs to be focused on him I think Ari Melber did a piece about him.
Nitram
(22,988 posts)The "Deep State" implies secret manipulation behind the scenes.
ancianita
(36,248 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:34 AM - Edit history (1)
return every single last child to his/her entry point (hopefully a parent, as well) or face jail time. Jail time.
From Sessions down to the foster parent -- ALL.
That is the basis of law -- make those who misunderstand it or break it COMPLY with it or go to jail.
malaise
(269,375 posts)Lock them all up
ancianita
(36,248 posts)parental retrieval.
malaise
(269,375 posts)They wil not rest until these kids are returned to their parents.
These vile racists are criminals and must be treated as such.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Make all immigrant family who had their children ripped away from them , make them citizens with their children to right the wrong that's been done to them. The world is watching us now to do right, not continue doing wrong. We are better than trump. Do what's right Congress , and also stop trump from his damaging people of color like he did to the people of Puerto Rico.
ancianita
(36,248 posts)bdamomma
(63,978 posts)are American.
We have an ignorant and stupid POS squatting in the WH.
Bear Creek
(883 posts)I read an article yesterday about one of the sites used to house the children in Brownsville TX was an old WalMart store. The building went up for sale August 2016 and deal closed in December 2016. The building was sold through Chacbak for Southwest Key Programs. I wonder how many such transactions occurred. Sounds like they knew Trump was going to win. And this whole diabolical plan was made prior to the elections or it could just be coincidence.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)That was over one Elián González being returned to Cuba and his father,
The right was having a shit fit over the photo of a crying Elián and the armed agent.
Elián González is now 26.
Multiply that by 11,000. (My numbers are as accurate as Cheeeto's are!)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli%C3%A1n_Gonz%C3%A1lez
malaise
(269,375 posts)AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)they claim it is less then watch trump using this as a very effective policy talking point and say I wouldn't have to do it if i could just build a wall. Dont underestimate 40+% of americans who dont care. GOP will ride along. They are now moving aggressively towards deconstructing federal agencies and abolishing medicare and SS and it remains to be seen if what the media is going to focus on with so much going on. Rebups want to pass as many things as they could before the end of the year.
malaise
(269,375 posts)Support this madness
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)welcome to 2018 America. This isnt 1930s Germany with its highly educated population on average and much fewer capabilities as a nation.
spanone
(135,960 posts)what are they hiding?
what conditions are these children living in?
WHERE are these children?
can you imagine your son or daughter 'disappeared' by the good old USA and you don't even have a receipt for them?
goddamn this administration.
malaise
(269,375 posts)I can't believe this
spanone
(135,960 posts)so i'm sure he's done with it as far as the kids go...
we MUST keep this front and center until EVERY child is accounted for.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)ck4829
(35,098 posts)spanone
(135,960 posts)many are BABIES
ck4829
(35,098 posts)The whole thing about a child sex colony on Mars by Alex Jones, right? And of course, Pizzagate.
Then kids actually go missing and they shrug... but I guess they're real kids and they're dark skinned kids, so who cares, right?
malaise
(269,375 posts)in converted Walmart warehouses