Plain and simple

Lock them up

"LOCK TRUMP UP" the rest will follow...

Where are these children.
People should strike until they are returned to their parents

If tens of millions didn't do any shopping for an entire weekend, that would get attention. Organizing such a thing is the hard part.

that is the hard part. Too many won't act if the injustice of this trump regime/presidency doesn't affect them personally. But it can happen with social media as a tool/catalyst. PM me

I can't help thinking of Dick Cheney's mysteriously obtained human heart

The people who should be charged are: Trump and Sessions. When we replace this Administration, we need a monument to McConnell and Ryan for being able to walk without spines.

will be two worms crawling in swamp slime.

an exhibit in a zoo of these remarkable spineless creatures.

We’re The United State of America—not Nicaragua or Cambodia.

That's the point at which it was okay to ridicule them. We're well past that now. People should go to jail for this.

"I was just following orders".

They are CHOOSING to follow orders that mean harming children on a daily basis. That is just not OK. Not in any way.

We need to eliminate them. Not the agents, obviously, the organization. It’s only about 15 years old, created hastily after 9/11 by the Bush administration and the votes were unexpected when I looked back at them. A whole lot of Democrats still had the courage to stand up against something son obviously wicked (like Pelosi) and others voted for the creation of ICE.

hand them out to the lawyers so they can write the name of the child, parent(s) name, lawyer's name, location that the children was taken and what ever other information is needed. The lawyers could show up in court and start filing them. I don't know if the lawyers can join together to request a class action lawsuit over the illegal and wrongful detention of these children.

Hopefully they could find a sympathetic judge who would issue a ruling for the Trump government to begin to produce each and every child in the court room with a threat of Contempt of Court and jail time if they don't produce the children at the date and time set by the judge. Trump intentionally spread the children out all over this country and they should be forced to pony up the cost to bring them all back to one location.

There needs to be real world consequences to the Trump Administration and every employee that is assisting them.

I would love to see a class action RICO lawsuit file against every entity (non-profit or profit) participating in this escapade. I don't see how they think that they could be protected from civil suit. Remember the owners of at least one of the facilities who are pocketing $1.5 million off this?

The separations are monstrous, compounded by the lost paper trail. There are now reports of caretakers without proper vetting and the use of drugs at some of these facilities to 'control' the children's behavior.

This is warehousing at its worse, morally bankrupt and lawless.

Hold these people accountable. This is not over by a long shot.

Where are the babies and where are the girls?

For those like me that are foggy on the subject, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus

(snip)

In number 84 of the Federalist Papers

the practice of arbitrary imprisonments have been in all ages the favourite and most formidable instruments of tyranny. The observations of the judicious Blackstone in reference to the latter, are well worthy of recital. "To bereave a man of life (says he) or by violence to confiscate his estate, without accusation or trial, would be so gross and notorious an act of despotism, as must at once convey the alarm of tyranny throughout the whole nation; but confinement of the person by secretly hurrying him to gaol, where his sufferings are unknown or forgotten, is a less public, a less striking, and therefore a more dangerous engine of arbitrary government." And as a remedy for this fatal evil, he is every where peculiarly emphatical in his encomiums on the habeas corpus act, which in one place he calls "the BULWARK of the British constitution."

I learn something on DU every day!........

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How does Posse Comitatus relate to this situation with the children?

as social pressure on private business mounts.

People didn't enlist for thismheartless bullshit

We shouldn't be asking our soldiers to participate in civilian government activities that in all likelihood violate international norms of human rights and US laws as well. I'll be very disappointed if our military command buys into this without resistance.

Sessions, Nielsen, Drumf, and every bureaucrat who is involved should be prosecuted.

will bury some. Out of 2,000 children, expect some to have medical issues that are not being treated. And, there are the perverts employed to run the prison, and their needed to eliminate victims. Time for another Federal Prosecutor to be appointed to find the children and the criminals. Finding the leader of the crime family should be easy, as he has described his actions nightly on TV. Waterboard Trump and we will have the names of all the lieutenants within seconds of the first pint of water being poured.

Midnight, our sons and daughters
Cut down, taken from us
Hear their heartbeat
We hear their heartbeat

In the wind we hear their laughter
In the rain we see their tears
Hear their heartbeat
We hear their heartbeat

Night hangs like a prisoner
Stretched over black and blue
Hear their heartbeat
We hear their heartbeat

In the trees our sons stand naked
Through the walls our daughters cry
See their tears in the rainfall

Make all hurt by his actions to be legal citizens with the parents and the children who they did this too. And start at once programs to document every child who was taken to be returned at once to their families. This country is better than trump. The American people have also been hurt by this so Congress has to correct this wrong that's damaged all of us too, or we will.

and HHS personnel broke the law.

To avoid jail time, they -- from Sessions down to the foster care organization heads to the foster parents - -- must immediately return EVERY single last immigrant child to his/her border entry point and parents, or face jail time.

Jail time.

The basis of law is to make those who misunderstand it or break it COMPLY with it or go to jail.

GET THE KIDS BACK FIRST, then we can chant.

Let's not be like them with the lock 'em up chant, though.

Let's actually make sure we have proof and act according to law abiding people, not mobs.

but at least they kept records.

...by which they were hung in the aftermath.

I think one of the reasons why they kept such careful records is because they were actually proud of the atrocities they were committing...

believe me. they're just incompetent.

Combined with soulless cruelty.

Gee, I wonder why...

Sell them to well off supporters or to drumpfs pedophile friends? Or are they just so stupid they made zero plans for handling this with the policy theyve been talking about for 3 months, so had to be thinking about for much longer. In all that time, they never thought once about what to do with the children? Send their parents to Guatemela, keep the kids for months longer, then what? Something is really really rotten here in DC that they are going to such lengths to hide the girls and babies and won't let the press or congress talk to any of the children. Is this just abuse because they don't give a shit about brown babies or, since it's the evil hatefully racist drumpf, is something more evil being planned?

Making Ivanka and Donald's clothing and plastic bullshit. Maybe they got China to pressure N. Korea to fake effort in exchange for totally free labor for their sweatshops.

Nothing is beneath these criminal destroyers. It just breaks my heart and makes me so afraid. Another thought I had; Manchurian children programmed to start his false flag terrorism event so he can suspend the constitution and declare himself ruler until the country is stabilized then ensure that never happens, with russia's help of course.

Not to take away from the horrendous nature of what's been done, but couldn't the children too young to tell who they are be DNA tested and matched with their parents? I haven't heard this mentioned but it seems plausible.

who traveled with relatives or family friends are screwed.

Simple bookkeeping would have prevented this chaos.

Better yet, leaving kids with the ones who love and care for them.

will turn up with very young live in maids and nannies. Other rich people will turn up with dusky skinned adopted babies. And some businesses with shady dealings will turn up with young indentured workers who are paid in pennies, if that. I never dreamed that something like this could happen here.

Thanks for the thread deminks

I remember in the 70s, the Argentinian dictatorship would "disappear" people, usually young dissenters.
Their mothers and grandmothers formed an activist group (at great risk) to continually protest and demand information. They're still doing it.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/28/mothers-plaza-de-mayo-argentina-anniversary

One aspect of this was that the little children of the desapareciós were sometimes taken and given to military couples to be adopted, "disappeared" in a different way. There might be hundreds of adults today who do not realize they were raised by the people complicit in the murder of their parents.

What is going to happen to these children? It's immoral, but it's also crazy. If they are with their parents, their parents will house and feed them just as always. But now the government is going to somehow raise thousands of children? How? How do you raise children in an abandoned Walmart? No love, no parenting? And WHY?

Trump's a sadist. I used to think he was just a sociopath, but now I think he's a sadist. He LIKES it that so many people are heartbroken and terrified. That makes him feel good. It's sick, but what other explanation is there for this?
Of course, the many GOPers going along with it cheerily-- they can't even claim major personality disorder as an excuse. They're just craven and uncaring.

You'd think ONE of them would have the decency to speak out—even if they are military personnel.

I saw this on Rachel's show last night. BTW, Jason is running for the Dem nomination to WA's US congressional 8th district which we are hoping to turn blue. I just sent him $50 -- https://www.jasonrittereiser.com/.

Lock him up and a gaggle of his facilitators. Lets grab a committee chairs or two.

With exception for our intelligence community, there must be an openness in our agencies. They know where the kids are. If, investigated and they really don't know, then we have grounds to put someone away.

The impact on these children . . . . Lets have an impact on the adults that instituted these policies. Anything done to these kids without the parents approval.

This was punishment for daring to cross the border when he told them not to.

I hope this sack of shit dies before the day is over. Everyday he is alive he causes more harm & does more damage.

(the judge) slammed his hand on the desk, sending a pen flying,” Hanshew wrote. “This type of emotional display is unheard of in federal court. I can’t understand this, the judge said. If someone at the jail takes your wallet, they give you a receipt. They take your kids, and you get nothing? Not even a slip of paper?”

But, alas, there are others of a similarly surreal nature. One over-arching element of the bizarre in this hideous, man-made tragedy is that more than anything else, it is Trump's intemperate responses to all questions, including those that are the knottiest and most abstruse to fathom and deploy. Bizarrely, he, alone, has some policies that, in other hands, could be the right, and most effective solutions. But he goes at everything 'like a bull in a china shop'. Completely intemperate. Alas, among politicians his lack of empathy is pretty normal, though he acts upon them more intemperately : as if all questions had just the one dimension to be considered.