Lock them up

Kidnapping. False imprisonment. Child Abduction.

how did they get those kids on planes to transport them around the country don't they need passports???

The other thing is that they are still doing it, and not reuniting those who have taken away from their parents.

Fuck tRump and Stephen Miller.

Their parents, either. These people are poor refugees. They have nothing. They come to the US in extremis. Most have no official identification. They don't have their children's birth certificates. They came to escape horrible conditions in their home countries. They are refugees.

Instead of giving them refuge, we simply imprison them. Feh!

I am asking those kids who they have sent to NY, Michigan how do they get them on planes to transport them from Texas to other parts of the country.

There was a thread here yesterday that Avenatti saw boys at the McAllen airport ready to board.

government officials don't always have to show identification. If escorted by law enforcement or similar people, the escort will have some sort of paperwork to get through security and past airline rules.

There are many holes in our system.

at airports and other places. DHS/HHS won't be able to hide them for much longer.

while watching Rachel and Lawrence O Donnell. I think there will be many whistle blowers and pictures coming out on this.

They can not keep these crimes quiet.

At least that's how it seems to me.

question. So they can transport these kids/babies illegally all over the country, and no one will question them all they need is a ticket and they are on planes?

no? maybe they are only shipping around those old enough to state their own name.
or maybe the american gestapo can do whatever they damn well please.

i'm talking about a guy in a uniform getting on a plane w a bunch of kids w NO id.
i cant buy a plane ticket for another person w/o their info, and even then that person gets a checkmark w dhs because someone else bought the ticket.
when my kids were younger, after 9/11, they had to all go get state id's to be able to get on a plane, and they had to show it to the tsa agent.

but these guys can get a bunch of tickets for a bunch of kids w no id of their own AT ALL. perfect time to move some human "merchandise".

... and her being white.

Not at all. This is 2018. It's not rocket science. You create a database, with name, photo at time of arrival, DOB. Put a damn barcode on a wrist bracelet. When children are relocated, that number goes with them and the database is updated to their new location.

But.they.dont.give.a.shit. And probably don't want a permanent record of how long a child was (illegally) detained for. They've probably broke the law hundreds of times already going past the 20 days allowed. We know some children were kept in detention centers for months.

This whole thing is going to turn into a humanitarian disaster. I guarantee it.

They put bracelets on infants in hospitals. To put a childs chance of being reunited at risk because its not PC or reminds them of nazis or fascism? There is no other foolproof or loss proof solution.
Its a freaking bracelet.

I dont know if youre being sarcastic, but I dont agree. If theres a problem with a yellow bracelet (just why...livestrong for example), then use a hospital like bracelet. Even adults get them when they are admitted. We arent talking about tattoos or cattle prodding here. Its important not to let these kids get lost in the system.

and from your posts, it appears you are fine with bands. They are used in many instances in different institutions for identification, and bracelets predate to 2005? So no disrespect, but Im not sure what point you were trying to make. Except sarcasm?

I think the whole thing of colored bands is ridiculous. Who is going to ostracize them? We’ve got the majority of americans on immigrants side.

I’ll preface this by saying they should all be set FREE except of course anyone that was crossing border for criminal reasons. Im not defending what they are doing at all. I just want those children not to be lost or have a basic record of them in the first place that is difficult to remove themselves. I dont really see a point in adults needing a bracelet.

this administration and the people running those detention centers are too incompetent to keep track of those kids any other way.

All of this happened very quickly, and government agencies don't operate quickly. A lot of what has happened has gone virtually undocumented, I suspect. Some of the children are probably unidentifiable. Disaster is just around the corner with this, I think.

Sorry, I can't remember which reporter (information/disinformation overload).

But I saw somebody asking details of how the kids are tracked. They assign numbers. The numbers are dropped as soon as each kid is handed off to HHS or whoever. There is officially no tracking whatsoever.

I know in assisted living facilities, there's a picture that has to be taken and regularly updated that's part of the resident's chart.

that will be the only way they are gonna match these families back up. woe to the aunt or uncle who brought a child in, and now cant prove it is their child. they will be charged w smuggling, no doubt.

And it will be massively more difficult because the parents have been deported to places where they are unreachable, and if they try to come back we'll arrest them and commit further atrocities against them.

Was there such a thing? Were the circumstances similar?

There was a flurry of DU outrage over ICE using ID bands, comparing them to yellow stars of David for concentration camp inmates:

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210657156

"The Arizona Daily Sun reports that at a recent immigration hearing, Alma Jacinto, a 36-year-old Guatemalan migrant had her children taken from her – and was given a yellow “bracelet” to indicate her status as a detained illegal immigrant."

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/125613952

I wish that these incarcerated children at least had ID band along with their parents to connect them together. Somebody posted a day or so ago that maybe they are doing this on purpose, making sure there is no paper or data trail. Perhaps the girls are to be trained as house slaves. That last might sound far fetched, but it is hard to know what is improbable with this bunch of miscreants.

I'm absolutely convinced of that, and the lack of identification seems to confirm it.

in foster care or with distant relatives, it's certainly a possibility. But, I don't believe there is intent to traffic in this. It's bad enough as it is.

...will never be able to say who they are.

The only "plan" was chaos and cruelty, and chaos and cruelty is what they created.