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jrthin

(4,843 posts)
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:32 AM Jun 2018

5 COMPANIES PROFITING FROM CHILDREN RIPPED FROM THEIR PARENTS

Comprehensive Health Services Inc.: $65 million
Dynamic Service Solutions: $8.7 million
Southwest Key Programs: $1.8 million
Dynamic Educational Systems: $5.6 million
MVM: $9.5 million

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5 COMPANIES PROFITING FROM CHILDREN RIPPED FROM THEIR PARENTS (Original Post) jrthin Jun 2018 OP
K & R. n/t FSogol Jun 2018 #1
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Jun 2018 #2
Probably NO BID Patronage Contracts. democratisphere Jun 2018 #3
no doubt they are no bid. none of this was prepared for. mopinko Jun 2018 #5
Do you really think they just sprang up overnight? WhiteTara Jun 2018 #11
i think they have been planning it from their prospective, but pretty clearly mopinko Jun 2018 #13
I specifically read that Southwest Key got a no-bid contract to run these "jails" for babies. lark Jun 2018 #25
Let's get to work, DU. Spread the profit angle far and wide blake2012 Jun 2018 #4
Bethany Adoption Services Lisa0825 Jun 2018 #6
It only sounds like they're stealing and selling children. snort Jun 2018 #9
THIS! Bethany claims it's only helping Hortensis Jun 2018 #14
Ahh yes "Adoptions"..they merely discussed "Adoptions" Wwcd Jun 2018 #33
BINGO !!!!!! pangaia Jun 2018 #36
Pregnancy counseling? More likely it is to threaten them Ilsa Jun 2018 #39
Bethany makes money through foster care and Hortensis Jun 2018 #51
Follow the money trail. lpbk2713 Jun 2018 #7
Source? RandomAccess Jun 2018 #8
SEE BELOW: jrthin Jun 2018 #23
Link? Source? we can do it Jun 2018 #54
A link would be better RandomAccess Jun 2018 #56
I really don't know how to link this. jrthin Jun 2018 #57
Well, that explanation would've been helpful to begin with RandomAccess Jun 2018 #58
Here's CBS on this subject... Duppers Jun 2018 #59
Thanks RandomAccess Jun 2018 #60
Well, exxcccuuuse me. Duppers Jun 2018 #62
Uh RandomAccess Jun 2018 #63
Sorry I mistook your reply. Duppers Jun 2018 #66
Ok. Thanks. RandomAccess Jun 2018 #67
K&R, Thank you for this ... there's always money behind Benedict Donald uponit7771 Jun 2018 #10
What about the drug companies? louis-t Jun 2018 #12
I wonder if these companies donated to Twitler or one of his pacs? kimbutgar Jun 2018 #15
K&R! calimary Jun 2018 #16
How about CoreCivic/CCA and Geo Group? Louis1895 Jun 2018 #17
Any opprotunities for boycotts? lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #18
profiting from misery (R) Achilleaze Jun 2018 #19
But, who is the prime contractor? LiberalArkie Jun 2018 #20
How many of those might be linked to the trumps? Perseus Jun 2018 #21
Always follow the money. sarcasmo Jun 2018 #22
David Farenhold ...the amazing researcher of the fake trump charity "donations" Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2018 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author pangaia Jun 2018 #26
Boycott lsewpershad Jun 2018 #27
Thank you for sharing Auggie Jun 2018 #28
If you boycott the companies that provide care for these kids, B2G Jun 2018 #29
How about their parents. nt jrthin Jun 2018 #32
The link clearly states B2G Jun 2018 #34
Temporary foster placement through Title IV-E LanternWaste Jun 2018 #50
K&R. Kids for cash. N/t bronxiteforever Jun 2018 #30
How is Trump paying for any of this? procon Jun 2018 #31
We are paying for it and we have been for years. B2G Jun 2018 #37
The new policy of separating kids is the topic, and that appears to be unfunded procon Jun 2018 #45
But the dollars represented in the OP are what is currently being spent. B2G Jun 2018 #46
Sorry, but you're off on a separate tangent that has nothing to do with my procon Jun 2018 #47
Actually it's not. B2G Jun 2018 #49
It's being paid for through inter-agency swaps of funding. haele Jun 2018 #40
I can't confirm that at all. procon Jun 2018 #53
I can't confirm either, but I've seen it happen in programs all the time. haele Jun 2018 #55
j, Bloomberg article says $458 million just for Southwest Key alone: Leghorn21 Jun 2018 #35
Criminal activity abounds with chump. gademocrat7 Jun 2018 #38
how much did they donate to palpatine lite? niyad Jun 2018 #41
Sickening ailsagirl Jun 2018 #42
I just heard the director admit to "spiritual care." Translate: indoctrination. lindysalsagal Jun 2018 #43
Reminds me more and more... Bayard Jun 2018 #64
Same here, Bayard. Duppers Jun 2018 #65
What about Walmart? gordianot Jun 2018 #44
The top managers of Krupp Steel were prosecuted muntrv Jun 2018 #48
BOOKMARK Hekate Jun 2018 #52
K&R Scurrilous Jun 2018 #61

WhiteTara

(29,739 posts)
11. Do you really think they just sprang up overnight?
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:21 AM
Jun 2018

I believe they have been working on this for awhile and the contract run through 2022.

mopinko

(70,394 posts)
13. i think they have been planning it from their prospective, but pretty clearly
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:23 AM
Jun 2018

they didnt really game it all out from here in the real world.

lark

(23,203 posts)
25. I specifically read that Southwest Key got a no-bid contract to run these "jails" for babies.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 12:09 PM
Jun 2018

Don't know about the others, but they probably did too, after negotiating the cuts for orange assface and the evil elf.

 

blake2012

(1,294 posts)
4. Let's get to work, DU. Spread the profit angle far and wide
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 10:37 AM
Jun 2018

The mainstream cable m/broadcast and print media needs to highlight the evil nexus of private prisons and GOP policies aimed to spike demand for those prisons’ services.

Lisa0825

(14,487 posts)
6. Bethany Adoption Services
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:09 AM
Jun 2018



Bethany Adoption Agency's Senior Vice President for Child and Family Services is... Brian DeVos.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. THIS! Bethany claims it's only helping
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:24 AM
Jun 2018

these children out of the goodness of their hearts. Who, seeing the DeVoses' involvement, can trust that?

Protesters demand Bethany Christian Services end contract after accepting separated children from U.S. border

https://therapidian.org/protesters-demand-bethany-christian-services-end-contract-after-accepting-separated-children-us-bord

The board at Bethany Christian needs to end the contract,” said protest organizer Katy Steele Barone. “The system is not meant for kids who are purposely taken away from their parents, this system is meant to find homes for those who do not have parents.”

According to the their website, Bethany Christian Services is a “global nonprofit organization that brings families together and keeps families together. Strengthening families for the well-being of children is our top priority. Our services include adoption, foster care, and pregnancy counseling. We also provide counseling to families, assist refugees and immigrants resettling in the U.S., and partner with several international countries to help keep families together. The work we do equips families to be the answer for children in need—as Christ intended."

Bethany put out a statement on its social media pages on Wednesday addressing the situation.

"We believe that all children belong with their families. However, in the current situation of children being separated at the border, we would prefer these children be placed temporarily in a safe and loving foster home instead of remaining in a center for an undetermined period of time," the statement reads in part.

Steele Barone added that taking children and shipping them across the country makes us a part of the problem and she doesn't want to be a part of the problem, she wants to be a part of the solution.
 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
33. Ahh yes "Adoptions"..they merely discussed "Adoptions"
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 12:23 PM
Jun 2018

Spectrum & Devos Family business were rewarded for electing Trump, actually they were just protecting their 'tender age investments'

Betsy got a job & what about brother Erik?

I want to know if any, & how much Erik Prince & his rogue militia have to do with I.C.E.

I'm betting there's a connect.
The Devos family along with Mercers played a big role in installing trump.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
36. BINGO !!!!!!
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 12:26 PM
Jun 2018

There's one of the answers.

"Our services include adoption, foster care, and pregnancy counseling."

I'll bet it does.

" We also provide counseling to families, assist refugees and immigrants resettling in the U.S."

Uh, huh...


"The work we do equips families to be the answer for children in need—as Christ intended."

My ass

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
51. Bethany makes money through foster care and
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 01:35 PM
Jun 2018

adoption, and no doubt charges for pregnancy counseling also.

But they are also devout Protestant fundamentalists who are enemies of secular government, with its freedom of religion, and are working to "advance god's kingdom" in America.

Mother Jones: But the DeVoses’ foundation giving shows the couple’s clearest preference is for Christian private schools. In a 2013 interview with Philanthropy magazine, Betsy DeVos said that while charters are “a very valid choice,” they “take a while to start up and get operating. Meanwhile, there are very good non-public schools, hanging on by a shoestring, that can begin taking students today.”


Government funding of private Christian schools could be another line of income while also bringing converts to god.

Very few if any of these babies and children come from what the DeVoses would consider "true" religion. Most will be from Catholic families.

Did the DeVoses have anything to do with the disconnect of the records of thousands' of childrens from their parents'? That very, very peculiar action could only have been taken deliberately.

lpbk2713

(42,777 posts)
7. Follow the money trail.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:10 AM
Jun 2018



Some of it will lead back to Trump. He's not about to let something like this slip through his fingers.

jrthin

(4,843 posts)
23. SEE BELOW:
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:57 AM
Jun 2018

Here are the businesses that have made millions off Trump’s child separation policy
Here are the businesses that have made millions off Trump’s child separation policy
[Photo: Flickr user Gage Skidmore]
BY MICHAEL GROTHAUS1 MINUTE READ
Separating scared and helpless children from their parents at the border is big business for some companies–and business has never been better. Yahoo News has identified five companies that are operating the shelters used to house the children taken in President Trump’s controversial child separation policy. They are:

Comprehensive Health Services Inc.: $65 million
Dynamic Service Solutions: $8.7 million
Southwest Key Programs: $1.8 million
Dynamic Educational Systems: $5.6 million
MVM: $9.5 million
As of Tuesday morning, 11,786 children were being held as part of the “unaccompanied alien children program,” Kenneth Wolfe, a spokesperson for the Department of Health and Human Service’s Administration for Children and Families (ACF), told Yahoo News.
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jrthin

(4,843 posts)
57. I really don't know how to link this.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 04:30 PM
Jun 2018

I regularly get emails from fastcompany.com, a news site similar to huffingtonpost. I guess one can go to the site and then click "news".

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
58. Well, that explanation would've been helpful to begin with
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 04:34 PM
Jun 2018

In situations like that, I usually start my post with: From an email from ______.

Sorry to trouble you. I just like to have links for things I'd like to pass along to others.

Duppers

(28,134 posts)
62. Well, exxcccuuuse me.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 05:44 PM
Jun 2018


IF your "fingers aren't exactly broken," you could have googled the OP's info and found the exact link from fastcompany.com!! I did.

What's with all your condescending sarcasm?! Rhetorical.

So, bye now. 🐦

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
63. Uh
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 05:52 PM
Jun 2018

I hope you're joking.

I can be VERY condescending and VERY sarcastic -- but that wasn't an example of either.

louis-t

(23,320 posts)
12. What about the drug companies?
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:22 AM
Jun 2018

Drugging kids being held in prison, I'm sure at astronomical prices.

kimbutgar

(21,289 posts)
15. I wonder if these companies donated to Twitler or one of his pacs?
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:33 AM
Jun 2018

I bet there is some quid pro quo going on.

calimary

(81,610 posts)
16. K&R!
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:33 AM
Jun 2018

We should try to keep a running tally. I bet this is only the beginning. Opportunism is like rust, ants, termites, and black mold.

Louis1895

(768 posts)
17. How about CoreCivic/CCA and Geo Group?
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:34 AM
Jun 2018

Check out this article:

How Private Contractors Enable Trump’s Cruelties at the Border
Private-prison groups and several Fortune 500 companies are profiting off “zero-tolerance” enforcement.
By David Dayen

Some of these companies were big donors to the Trump campaign.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
21. How many of those might be linked to the trumps?
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 11:52 AM
Jun 2018

Someone needs to follow the money, the man-child seems to only come up with ideas that can possibly produce a profit for the family, I would not be surprised if the road would lead to them.

Response to jrthin (Original post)

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
29. If you boycott the companies that provide care for these kids,
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 12:18 PM
Jun 2018

who will care for them?

There are kids who come across as legitimate unaccompanied minors. What about them?

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
34. The link clearly states
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 12:25 PM
Jun 2018

there are just under 12K kids in the unaccompanied minor program. Several thousand are due to Trump's separation policy, but the remainder came over with no parents.

Again, I ask, what about them? Are we just not to provide healthcare, education, etc. for them too? Do you honestly think we didn't have those expenses and companies to provide those services under previous administrations?

Did you want to boycott those providers then?

Return the separated kids to their parents, definitely. But that still is going to leave a large population of kids that came here by themselves that need care.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
50. Temporary foster placement through Title IV-E
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 01:16 PM
Jun 2018

Temporary foster placement through Title IV-E Foster Care Eligibility Reviews, and the Adoption and Foster Care Analysis via the Statewide Automated Child Welfare Information System Assessment.

This is already a program that's been happening in TX since the 90s when I was a CPS caseworker... and though even after privatization of the CPS system in 2000 when I left, it's yet still better than cages.

Granted, the cage-builders' boards of directors may not get the sweet, sweet kickbacks and profit margins that makes them delighted with caging kids, and it may seem more humane as well; so I get why a lot of people would have a knee-jerk problem with it.

<Cue>

procon

(15,805 posts)
31. How is Trump paying for any of this?
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 12:21 PM
Jun 2018

He's certainly not calling on congress to raise taxes to fund his policies, there's been no legislation to offset the costa, so he must be doing all this on credit, spending money like a Saudi prince, with no regard of the costs, the effectiveness or the outcomes.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
37. We are paying for it and we have been for years.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 12:27 PM
Jun 2018

The Unaccompanied Minor program is nothing new.

procon

(15,805 posts)
45. The new policy of separating kids is the topic, and that appears to be unfunded
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 12:41 PM
Jun 2018

with no provisions to meet the costs from imprisoning the rising number of people now being swept into detention by Trump's new "Zero Tolerance" plan.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
46. But the dollars represented in the OP are what is currently being spent.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 12:49 PM
Jun 2018

As are the companies providing the service.

That's my point when you start talking about boycotts. The separation policy has only been in place for a few months now. There would be incremental additional costs should that policy remains.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
49. Actually it's not.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 01:15 PM
Jun 2018

You asked how Trump is paying for this. The dollars in the OP are for the existing UM program. We've been paying them for years.

But whatever. Carry on.

haele

(12,702 posts)
40. It's being paid for through inter-agency swaps of funding.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 12:30 PM
Jun 2018

Depending on the "color of money", HHS's ORR department which is apparently handing out these contracts is probably sweeping up some of POM 2017/2018 CHIP funding that has been sitting unused due to the congressional attempts to turn this country into Galt's Gulch to pay for these contracts. Likewise, some of the previously appropriated DHS crime prevention funding that has gone idle because it's "too liberal" or an Obama DHS initiative is probably being shifted over to INS/ICE to pay for the family separation policy and ramp up on border crossing prosecution.

If the money sits in any one department for too long, it gets sent somewhere else in the agency by the end of the next review cycle.

Haele

procon

(15,805 posts)
53. I can't confirm that at all.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 01:46 PM
Jun 2018

Government funding is allocated for specific things, anything else would be defrauding the United States. There are volumes of laws against the mismanagement or needless expenditure of Government funds and people go to jail.

Agencies have a Use-It-or-Lose-It incentive to maintain their annual budget appropriations, which they do all the time, but they can't just dole that appropriation money out at will. If money is somehow illegally being reappropriated to other purposes or used to fund new programs or shore up different agencies without legislative or congressional knowledge then its potentially a crime that might include a cover up, fraud and abuse, or maybe its moving into secretive black ops territory.

haele

(12,702 posts)
55. I can't confirm either, but I've seen it happen in programs all the time.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 03:09 PM
Jun 2018

Usually amounts under $50K at a time discretionary funding that can be moved around or released to another program using the same type of contract - sometimes within hours - by an SES and contracting officer.

It's on the borderline of legal; there was a major investigation a few years back when a major program ended up finding continuing funding as it was being wrangled over in Congress for almost 6 months that way - they ended up with just over $1 mil in sweep-up money across a particular contract vehicle that was popular with the many small RDT&A programs in that organization.

Over the years I've seen more than a few contracting officers prosecuted when they weren't careful how they navigated handling sweep-up and ceiling money. It's certainly not outside expectations that this administration will try to handle internal money like a corporation, and just pull funds they've left sitting, whether they've been allocated or not.

Haele

Leghorn21

(13,527 posts)
35. j, Bloomberg article says $458 million just for Southwest Key alone:
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 12:26 PM
Jun 2018

Last edited Thu Jun 21, 2018, 01:18 PM - Edit history (1)

Trump's Immigrant Child Detentions Mean $458 Million for Nonprofit


...The Trump administration plans to pay a Texas nonprofit nearly half a billion dollars this year to care for immigrant children who were detained crossing the U.S. border illegally, according to government data.

The nonprofit, Southwest Key Programs Inc., is to be paid more than $458 million in fiscal 2018, according to the data -- the most among the organizations, government agencies and companies that run a detention and care system for immigrant children on behalf of the Department of Health and Human Services. Southwest Key has about a dozen facilities in Texas, including a site at a former WalMart Inc. store in Brownsville that has drawn attention from members of Congress and national news organizations...

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2018-06-19/trump-migrant-child-detentions-mean-458-million-for-nonprofit?__twitter_impression=true


lindysalsagal

(20,802 posts)
43. I just heard the director admit to "spiritual care." Translate: indoctrination.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 12:34 PM
Jun 2018

The fundies will be running to these centers to brainwash them en masse.

Bayard

(22,250 posts)
64. Reminds me more and more...
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 05:58 PM
Jun 2018

Native American children who were taken away from their parents, losing their own religion, language, clothes, and hair. A shameful period in U.S. history.

"Indian Country remembers. This is not the first administration to order the forced separation of families."

"This tragic history is again public policy. And, as in previous public policy debates, the authorities rely on Christian scripture for their inhumane acts."

Good article, and up to date:

https://www.pri.org/stories/2018-06-19/indian-country-remembers-trauma-children-taken-their-parents

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