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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan we please call it Facism now?
It obviously is. Let's call it what it is.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)winetourdriver01
(1,154 posts)Even the dimmest of dimwits are starting to get the idea.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)"King me"==
Trump is gazing into a mirror and seeing himself with a crown on his head.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/07/opinions/trump-time-cover-opinion-dantonio/
sinkingfeeling
(51,499 posts)cilla4progress
(24,804 posts)now, probs not so much
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)former9thward
(32,178 posts)A fascism that allows opposition parties. A fascism that allows elections. A fascism that allows the media to say what they want. A fascism that allows people to post whatever they want on a internet discussion board. I am happy I have a historical knowledge of fascism and actually know what it is and more importantly what it isn't.
ck4829
(35,097 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)And this guy thinks it's something else
ck4829
(35,097 posts)Now our government and media has simply dropped the proto part.
We've got:
* A government at war with it's own citizens in the form of the war on drugs
* A healthcare system that chooses who is worthy of life and death by using money as access
* A media that is tied to the government, Fox News and Sinclair Broadcasting
* Encouraging paranoia of the 'other'... be it liberals, immigrants, Muslims, refugees, etc.
* Conditioning the base, if Fox News said 'KILL', I am convinced we would see something like out of the Purge or historically Pogroms or Rwanda
former9thward
(32,178 posts)Have we lived under fascism since 1789? Are you familiar with the Constitution? If elections are not allowed then why bother with the mid-terms or 2020? Well, I guess you aren't....
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)The Russians hacked our elections.
former9thward
(32,178 posts)They are powerful.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Nothing like this has happened before. It should have been declared an act of war.
former9thward
(32,178 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Better hurry
former9thward
(32,178 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)The rules of the election were known. It's not like they changed them on election day.
ck4829
(35,097 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)He's trying to do away with all of THAT. Just because he has not implented it doesn't make it something different...
former9thward
(32,178 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Don't worry though, there are some great adult education classes around. If you tell me where you live, I can send you a link.
former9thward
(32,178 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)I promise you I read one better than you...
former9thward
(32,178 posts)ck4829
(35,097 posts)ck4829
(35,097 posts)We need to get mad at the radical right fascists turning the US into a cesspool
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)It somehow means Trump is not espousing Facism. He certainly is.
ck4829
(35,097 posts)I see liberals being blamed for everything under the sun "school shootings", "high gas prices", "immigrants", etc. It is getting disturbing.
Even more disturbing I see a few right wingers I reported on Twitter use a symbol for Muslim the same way Nazis used a symbol for Jewish people.
Some people prefer to not face the ugly realities bubbling under the surface and coming up. Voting is a good thing, but it won't fix all of our problems too, it will not be a one-stop solution and that is the one thing you are expected to do, and yes we will need activism too. Many people don't want to realize that Trump and the rising radical right is a failure of civic institutions, not because of some low probability result.
All I'm saying is, it's going to take time and repeated effort to wake people up - Including many Democrats on the left. I used to be asleep too. Don't be too shocked when people don't see this immediately, they don't want to, but remember, there are those of us who do see it.
Oneironaut
(5,550 posts)Russia is unarguably an authoritarian regime, and they have elections, use of the internet, a "free" press, opposition parties, and mass media.
I don't believe the US is Fascist, but one must be careful not to define Fascism as needing a definitive collection of traits.
former9thward
(32,178 posts)Germany and Italy being the main ones. The U.S. is not remotely like either one of those countries either when they were fascism or in the years before.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)until it isn't. Then what? We're cooked.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)Umberto Eco grew up in Italy during Mussolini's fascist regime.
Take a look at the 14 characteristics that he lays out.
former9thward
(32,178 posts)They pull stuff out of the Soviet Union or the writings of Marx or Lenin and then try and say the U.S. has the same things. No it doesn't.
ck4829
(35,097 posts)Snackshack
(2,541 posts)Criminal.
Trek4Truth
(515 posts)welivetotreadonkings
(134 posts)Trying to imagine how far Trump could take his party in the same direction other fascist regimes throughout history have gone before Ryan and McConnell would denounce him and encourage impeachment.
It's utterly frightening and completely depressing how far I can take this thought experiment...