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bigtree

(86,024 posts)
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 05:56 PM Jun 2018

Trump's new immigration order would essentially jail migrant families in internment camps

...Trump's order has direct parallels to the last time our government interned Americans of a particular ethnicity.

His order also carries with it extensive rhetoric from Trump and his administration about a nebulous 'threat' which he's been repeatedly claiming is inherent in migrants coming from Mexico - much like he insisted his Muslim ban directed at selected countries was a national security measure against a nebulous threat Trump claimed was inherent in immigrants and refugees from those nations he arbitrarily cut off from entry into the US.

More glaring, NYT confirmed today that Trump has requested the U.S. military set up what are basically internment camps to hold as many as 20,000 children:




update 6/22: Trump is asking the Pentagon to spend $1 billion to build militarized tent cities with the capacity to detain an additional 119,000 people




They are internment camps, because they are meant to hold individuals - children, possibly entire families) of one particular ethnic group. His border policy is the direct product of open bigotry and racism by the president of the United States, aimed squarely at Mexican migrants.

Jailing people for misdemeanors is cruel enough, but Trump is asking the military to set up internment camps to hold people whose only offense was seeking to enter the country for all opportunities of refuge and care. Moreover, jailing children apart from their families is a cruelty which even Japanese families weren't forced to endure in their own abominable ordeal.

"At least during the internment of Japanese-Americans, I and other children were not stripped from our parents," actor George Takei wrote on Tuesday. “We were not pulled screaming from our mothers’ arms. We were not left to change the diapers of younger children by ourselves."

“I cannot for a moment imagine what my childhood would have been like had I been thrown into a camp without my parents. That this is happening today fills me with both rage and grief: rage toward a failed political leadership who appear to have lost even their most basic humanity, and a profound grief for the families affected.”


This is immoral, and very likely highly illegal. Make no mistake. No matter how civil society may look in your neighborhood, a fascist state is quickly forming and using the power of government to deliberately injure people who pose no collective threat to the nation at all - our government lashing out with lawlessness and inhumanity - assaulting these families seeking refuge for their supporters' perverse goal of staving off a rising, non-white population.

It's a war waged by Trump against the sum of his own fears and antipathies. It's a war waged by our government which threatens to engulf each and every one of us in Trump's battle against his paranoid apparitions.
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Trump's new immigration order would essentially jail migrant families in internment camps (Original Post) bigtree Jun 2018 OP
I'm not sure those are for just immigrants. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2018 #1
This exercise was an act of war. Initech Jun 2018 #2
Are you saying the internments are an act of war against Mexico.? dixiegrrrrl Jun 2018 #3
Oh I'm sure that asshole would declare war on all of South America if he could. Initech Jun 2018 #4
Not just was, still is ... and also against KPN Jun 2018 #5
» bigtree Jun 2018 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Jun 2018 #7
update: Trump asking Pentagon to spend an additional $1 billion to build militarized tent cities bigtree Jun 2018 #8
kick bigtree Jun 2018 #9

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
1. I'm not sure those are for just immigrants.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 06:13 PM
Jun 2018

Suddenly we are hearing of the needs to "house" thousands of children. The number of children has steadily been inflated while news reports tells us actual border crossings have dropped.

Now, suddenly, we find there are dozens of for profit centers available to take thousands of children, with gov. contracts ready to pay them.
Washington does not work that fast even in normal times.

Those facilities, btw, have contracts which say the Gov't guarantees to fund the beds, whether there is a body in them or not.

My spidey sense is tingling more and more as we get closer and closer to an election which pretty much guarantees the people now in power are gonna lose their lucrative jobs.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. Are you saying the internments are an act of war against Mexico.?
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 06:25 PM
Jun 2018

Just wanted to know if I am hearing you correctly.

The people being captured at the border are coming from Central and South America, as well as Mexico.

Initech

(100,152 posts)
4. Oh I'm sure that asshole would declare war on all of South America if he could.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 06:33 PM
Jun 2018

But we do know that he particularly hates Mexico. I really wonder what did Mexico do to hurt him?

KPN

(15,680 posts)
5. Not just was, still is ... and also against
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 06:43 PM
Jun 2018

all US citizens who believe that basic human rights extend to everyone regardless of skin color, country of origin, religious beliefs, etc. We need to realize an not forget that.

bigtree

(86,024 posts)
6. »
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 09:00 PM
Jun 2018

Last edited Sat Jun 23, 2018, 10:53 AM - Edit history (1)

Southern Poverty Law Center @splcenter
Trump's order would detain migrant children indefinitely. That's part of a history that includes Native American settlement schools, Japanese-American internment & enslaved families split at auction. https://t.co/bSCjEGTE3Z

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bigtree

(86,024 posts)
8. update: Trump asking Pentagon to spend an additional $1 billion to build militarized tent cities
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 10:24 AM
Jun 2018
Trump is asking the Pentagon to spend $1 billion to build militarized tent cities with the capacity to detain an additional 119,000 people




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