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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 06:21 PM Jun 2018

Why do Deplorables dislike Hispanic people ?

I have lived most of my life in Greater Miami, Greater Orlando, and now Greater Los Angeles, all areas with large Hispanic populations. When I was in college I was the only non-Hispanic in an all Hispanic study group. I should add they all went on to be successful, more successful than me, with many becoming lawyers.

My mom's doctor who became my friend was from Puerto Rico gave me his cell phone number should I need to contact him immediately, and treated me for free when I lost my health insurance and contacted walking pneumonia. What doctor does that? When I was growing up my best friend was half Puerto Rican, one quarter Cuban and one quarter Irish.

They are warm people. They are kind people. They are entrepreneurial.

Why do Deplorables dislike them ?

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Why do Deplorables dislike Hispanic people ? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2018 OP
probably bc they have access OriginalGeek Jun 2018 #1
Because they are evil, ugly, and have soul made of dog shit samir.g Jun 2018 #2
Blood and soil manor321 Jun 2018 #3
Because they are assholes ismnotwasm Jun 2018 #4
What more needs to be said! Soxfan58 Jun 2018 #24
They hate a lot more than Hispanics. Cattledog Jun 2018 #5
Not white. Not like them. White Spanish are usually mixed in because of their name or accent lunasun Jun 2018 #6
Huh? tulipsandroses Jun 2018 #7
But Hispanics are feeling the full brunt of Trumpism. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2018 #9
Because the Latino/Latina immigrants are easy targets. Iliyah Jun 2018 #15
I agree; have always found Hispanic people to be treestar Jun 2018 #8
I grew up in Florida. I don't want to over generalize, but I think this is a partial answer. dameatball Jun 2018 #10
Great Cuban food in Ybor City. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2018 #12
Oh yeah.....spent many happy times there. Been gone a long time now. dameatball Jun 2018 #19
As an immigrant myself - from the Caribbean - tulipsandroses Jun 2018 #21
Bingo! dameatball Jun 2018 #33
Similar in Miami Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2018 #40
I thought about mentioning Mariel, but did not want to overstate my experiences. Thanks. dameatball Jun 2018 #43
Otherness Zambero Jun 2018 #11
It's a common human failing to distract ourselves and everyone else from our own faults struggle4progress Jun 2018 #13
They are smeared as welfare drains and criminals, partly Cicada Jun 2018 #14
Trump made hospanics the focal point of their anger Fullduplexxx Jun 2018 #16
becaause they are ignorant and don't know any better vlyons Jun 2018 #17
Fear and ignorance like any other racism underpants Jun 2018 #18
Most supporters opposing immigration have had the least contact with immigrants. kwassa Jun 2018 #20
Because they fear they are going to be displaced by a new group that Squinch Jun 2018 #22
They hate themselves, and have to project that outward... Wounded Bear Jun 2018 #23
Scapegoats. A group of people who are not only "different" but The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #25
Why do Deplorables dislike Hispanic people ? because of people like Charles Krauthammer ! stonecutter357 Jun 2018 #26
Some People Require Someone to Hate and it's Easy to Spot People of Color dlk Jun 2018 #27
It's about nonwhites...includes Hispanic, blacks, asians..Indians, etc beachbum bob Jun 2018 #28
Why did Nazis hate Jews? DBoon Jun 2018 #29
I duuno.. i was a medical social worker for a hospital..i made home visits to.. samnsara Jun 2018 #30
a huge part is simply this, with Hispanics included as PoC Exotica Jun 2018 #31
You can include any minority into that JI7 Jun 2018 #37
Because they vote Dem. So GOP has demonized them. EndGOPPropaganda Jun 2018 #32
Jealousy. You said it-- Hispanics work hard and have big hearts... TreasonousBastard Jun 2018 #34
Bitches gotta hate. n/t Downtown Hound Jun 2018 #35
Same reason they hate jews blacks muslims etc JI7 Jun 2018 #36
The Spanish Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2018 #38
They are brown mcar Jun 2018 #39
the deplorables are jealous of the beauty of hispanics, blacks, jews etc. demigoddess Jun 2018 #41
Hispanics have the best behaved children. milestogo Jun 2018 #42
First we stole their money, then we stole their land. roamer65 Jun 2018 #44

tulipsandroses

(5,141 posts)
7. Huh?
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 06:28 PM
Jun 2018

Why do Deplorables dislike black people?
Why do Deplorables dislike Muslims
Why do Deplorables dislike Hindus?
Why do Deplorables dislike Atheists?
Why do Deplorables dislike LGBQT people?
My answer? They are just Deplorable - That's why

I don't want to Hijack your thread - I suppose only a Deplorable could answer the question and my guess is there would not be a rational answer.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
9. But Hispanics are feeling the full brunt of Trumpism.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 06:31 PM
Jun 2018

Trump had described them in terms eerily reminiscent of how Hitler described Jews.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. I agree; have always found Hispanic people to be
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 06:28 PM
Jun 2018

warm people, inclusive, and reasonable and not entitled.

A lot of Middle-class white people who are deplorables - exclusionary, show off and entitled.

Deplorables could be jealous - look how upset they get upon hearing other languages. Jealous of people being bilingual and therefore smarter. Also, they need somebody to feel superior too - and they realize black people no longer will do, as there are black leaders, presidents, talented athletes, musicians. Hispanic people appear to be not born in Amurka and now they can be superior over that!

dameatball

(7,411 posts)
10. I grew up in Florida. I don't want to over generalize, but I think this is a partial answer.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 06:31 PM
Jun 2018

In the early days Hispanic immigrants were somewhat overlooked and their own communities urged assimilation into the American culture as a practical necessity. As a voting block they were often conservative, especially the anti-Castro Cubans. Ybor City, for example, was a wonderful place to visit....Silver Ring, Columbia Restaurant, La Tropicana and many other mom and pop places that only the locals and cops on the night shift knew about. Miami must have been wonderful if one wanted great food and rich culture, although I never lived there.
At some point, Repubs realized that the newer refugees/immigrants were a bit more liberal minded.
Once the conservative wave of immigrants changed it was an entirely new ballgame.

The trickle soon became a flood. Entire neighborhoods changed. Finally, white conservatives realized that the genie was out of the bottle and have been trying to re-cork it at every place immigration takes place.....except for Norwegians.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
12. Great Cuban food in Ybor City.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 06:33 PM
Jun 2018

When I was in college in the 80s most of my Cuban friends were liberal, already casting off the conservatism of their parents.

dameatball

(7,411 posts)
19. Oh yeah.....spent many happy times there. Been gone a long time now.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 06:41 PM
Jun 2018

Lots of mob/Cuba history ran through there as well.

tulipsandroses

(5,141 posts)
21. As an immigrant myself - from the Caribbean -
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 06:47 PM
Jun 2018

That is often true of many immigrants - The ones that come initially. Are often conservative. The children of the immigrants - myself that assimilate tend to become liberal- My parents are more conservative - The newer generations tend to be more liberal than the older generations. Not always.

Its interesting because I don't think the Republican party understands if they were not so damn racist they could attract a lot more immigrants and even blacks because so many come from religious patriarchal societies. But their racism prevents so many from being a part of their party

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,798 posts)
40. Similar in Miami
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 07:53 PM
Jun 2018

The immediate post-Castro Cubans in Little Havana were exactly what you describe in In or City. When Mariel happened, different story. That was truly an instance where Castro emptied prisons, and the sheer numbers were overwhelming. Anglo flight north soon ensued.

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
13. It's a common human failing to distract ourselves and everyone else from our own faults
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 06:36 PM
Jun 2018

by hating other people. The less we know about the people we hate, the easier it is. Can't get a job? Can't get laid? Can't get no respect? Surely there must be somebody to blame!

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
17. becaause they are ignorant and don't know any better
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 06:39 PM
Jun 2018

many grew up in homes and were taught that non-whites are lazy welfare people, liars, rapists, low IQ. Some have a long-time habit of mentally nurturing hatred for the "other" and blaming the "other" for their own unhappy, unfulfilled lives. I assure you that haters are not happy people. It's very sad that these haters could so easily become happier people, simply by abandoning hateful thoughtsand practicing loving kindness towards others.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
20. Most supporters opposing immigration have had the least contact with immigrants.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 06:41 PM
Jun 2018

This has been cited over and over again.

and I love Cuban food.

Squinch

(51,098 posts)
22. Because they fear they are going to be displaced by a new group that
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 06:47 PM
Jun 2018

they fear is better than they.

You said it yourself. All your study group friends went on to be successful. The rural white male republican voter can always be understood if you remember that their greatest fear is their own inferiority.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,042 posts)
25. Scapegoats. A group of people who are not only "different" but
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 07:07 PM
Jun 2018

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who keep to their own communities and don't always speak English (just not speaking English is enough to cause rage in some people); most of those who are undocumented work at low-prestige, low-skilled jobs like farm and construction labor, hotel maids and dishwashers (that the haters would not take themselves and without which the economy would collapse); and even those who are documented or U.S.-born aren't "white" enough. It's a group of people that's easily scapegoated. There's no rational reason for such hate but racial hate isn't rational anyhow. Ignorant people like Trump's fans are easy to frighten with stories of how dangerous the "other" is and how those people are harming the country.

It's so much like Germany in the '30s that it scares me. It's not identical, of course - until the early '30s Jews were in many respects more assimilated, having lived in Germany for a long time - and many were successful, respected academics, scientists and business people. But they were members of a clearly identifiable community, since although they were racially "white" they could be identified by their names and neighborhoods. Germany had been badly defeated in WWI and its economy was in terrible shape. Hitler needed a scapegoat group for people to fear so they would unite behind him, so he blamed the Jews, especially those in the banking industry, for Germany's financial problems, even though they were less than 1% of the total population. Beginning in 1933, the German government enacted a series of anti-Jewish laws restricting the rights of Jews to earn a living, to be citizens and obtain an education. These laws resulted in the exclusion of Jews from German social and political life. And we all know what happened after that.

After Trump stooped so low as to put Latino babies in cages I now have no doubt he would try get anti-Latino laws passed like Hitler's ant-Jewish laws. And he'd do it to get the lowest sort of people behind him.

dlk

(11,606 posts)
27. Some People Require Someone to Hate and it's Easy to Spot People of Color
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 07:11 PM
Jun 2018

Racists are intellectually and morally lazy.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
28. It's about nonwhites...includes Hispanic, blacks, asians..Indians, etc
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 07:11 PM
Jun 2018

If you aren't white, you are a threat to my existence

DBoon

(22,436 posts)
29. Why did Nazis hate Jews?
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 07:13 PM
Jun 2018

Right wingers have always blamed real and perceived social problems on "others" who speak, dress, and behave differently.

samnsara

(17,667 posts)
30. I duuno.. i was a medical social worker for a hospital..i made home visits to..
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 07:14 PM
Jun 2018

….new moms..80% undocumented. My gosh! If there's ever a zombie Apocalypse I want to bunk with these women. They grew an entire garden to feed their family along the mostly shady side of their small rentals. Their house was spotless! Many were working hard in the fields at 8 mos pregnant! The kids were happy and thrived in what I would consider very minimal conditions...because the parents were happy. The thing is they were so GRATEFUL for being in America.. because even our dirt floor migrant camps were better than what they left.

We all need to relive that feeling again.

JI7

(89,292 posts)
37. You can include any minority into that
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 07:37 PM
Jun 2018

Everything comes back to that. Lbj knew those people and that mentality more than anyone.

EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
32. Because they vote Dem. So GOP has demonized them.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 07:16 PM
Jun 2018

Two reasons why deplorables hate Hispanics.

First, Republican leaders about 30 years ago embraced identity politics to get votes for billionaires. (During this time they used dogwhistles to hide their support for identity politics.) And that meant they had to identify wedge issues to divide America to get their voters to vote for tax cuts. Xenophobia has always been an effective wedge issue. Humans are tribal.

Second, more recently Republicans have realized their only path to retaining power is via massive voter suppression. In 2012 post Romney, Republican analysis revealed that demographics was going to eventually finish them, as white people eventually became a majority in America. That analysis concluded the GOP needed to court Hispanics. But after Trump was openly racist and took over the propragandized base the GOP had prepared (via dogwhistles, see point one), Republicans could no longer court centrists and Hispanics. So in the past two years Republican leadership has decided they can square this circle via ethnic cleansing. The leadership likes the ethnic cleansing because it removes D voters. The base likes it for the racism.

Those are the two reasons deplorables hate Hispanics. For those two reasons the right wing propaganda machine has been preaching Hispanic hate for years. And the deplorables are brainwashed by the propaganda: Fox, Limbaugh, Hewitt, Drudge, etc.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
34. Jealousy. You said it-- Hispanics work hard and have big hearts...
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 07:25 PM
Jun 2018

But wait until the deplorables find out about Chinese...

For a few years I lived in a Brazilian neighborhood in Elizabeth, NJ. The greatest people you would ever want to meet. And the food was fabulous.

Within walking distance was Newark's Ironbound, named for the triangle of train tracks that made its border. It was historically a neighborhood of immigrants, and the latest were South American.

The Argentinian food and festivals were even more amazing.

Doctors, lawyers, scholars, business owners-- Spanish influence in the US is overall positive and a lot more than tacos.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,798 posts)
38. The Spanish
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 07:48 PM
Jun 2018

That breaks into two subissues:

The perception that Latino immigrants don't assimilate
: anti-Latino-immagant types resent: hearing Spanish spoken in supermarkets; Spanish language choices on phone menus, ATMs, etc.; the multiple Latino media outlets. It doesn't jibe with the "my great Grandparents learned English" narrative. Note that Latino immigrants who have fully assimilated are not immune from this mindset.

The perception that the Spanish costs English speakers jobs
: After Mariel, a popular T shirt in South Florida was "Will the last American to leave Miami please bring the flag?" It was, in part, a reflection that many low jobs were now "Bilingual English/Spanish preferred." Many Anglos felt alienated that the language they grew up speaking was no longer good enough to get hired. In Fremont NE, laws requiring renters to prove citizenship were passed after a long time Hormel employee complained to a city councilman that he was passed over for a supervisory position because (he claimed) he did not speak Spanish.

mcar

(42,480 posts)
39. They are brown
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 07:50 PM
Jun 2018

I lived 5 years in Miami, worked closely with many from Latin America. Some nice, some just OK, just like all people.

Deplorables hate them because they are brown.

demigoddess

(6,645 posts)
41. the deplorables are jealous of the beauty of hispanics, blacks, jews etc.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 07:56 PM
Jun 2018

not to mention their humanity. think about it -- who is prettier

Eva Longoria or Ivanka?
Beyonce or Melania?
Shemar Moore or Donald Trump?

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
42. Hispanics have the best behaved children.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 08:00 PM
Jun 2018

So says my elderly neighbor, and after thinking about it, she's right, at least in my neighborhood.

roamer65

(36,748 posts)
44. First we stole their money, then we stole their land.
Thu Jun 21, 2018, 08:27 PM
Jun 2018

We used Spanish American then Mexican reales as our currency up until 1857. Then we stole their land with a bullshit war in 1847-48.

We are ALL Americans. We live in North America.

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