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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 08:36 AM Jun 2018

Fact Check. Have Undocumented Immigrants Killed 63,000 American Citizens Since 11 September 2001?

The figure would mean undocumented immigrants, who account for roughly 3 percent of the population, would have to commit about one quarter of the nation's homicides.

CLAIM

Undocumented immigrants have killed 63,000 U.S. citizens since 9/11.

RATING

FALSE



ORIGIN

On 22 June 2018, in the middle of a family separation crisis caused by the Trump administration’s botched “zero tolerance” policy, United States President Donald Trump himself recycled a claim that undocumented immigrants committed an abnormally large number of homicides in the United States.

“Sixty-three thousand Americans since 9/11 have been killed by illegal aliens,” the president said. “This isn’t a problem that’s going away, it’s getting bigger.” Not only is there no evidence for his claim, it would require a seemingly superhuman murder spree by the nation’s roughly 11 million undocumented immigrants.

The event was held amid a cascade of public outcry against internment camps established by the government for undocumented children, which prompted the Trump administration to quickly change course and order undocumented families to be held together — while seeking the ability to do so indefinitely. But while the president accused reporters of failing to cover this alleged rash of homicides, the numbers do not support this claim.

According to data provided for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there have been 260,743 homicides in the United States from 2002 through 2016 (the most recent year available.) It thus seems mathematically impossible that undocumented immigrants, who make up roughly 3 percent of the population, would have committed just under a quarter of all homicides in the United States during that time period. The bogus figure appears to have originated in a May 2006 post by Republican Rep. Steve King of Iowa complaining about the “Day Without An Immigrant” campaign calling attention to the contributions of immigrants to U.S. community.

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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/have-undocumented-killed-63000-us-9-11/

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mitch96

(13,948 posts)
7. Please don't do that...
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 10:52 AM
Jun 2018

Notarized?? I spit my coffee all over the screen!!!
Too funny. I'm gonna have to plagiarize that one if you don't mind..
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lunasun

(21,646 posts)
4. Wait I thought trump also said 85% of white people murdered killed by blacks ( it's actually 15%)
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 08:50 AM
Jun 2018

Or was that pence ?

Yonnie3

(17,520 posts)
5. No, pence wasn't murdered.
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 08:52 AM
Jun 2018

er ... I misunderstood. No, pence didn't kill all those white people, yet.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
6. Ha but I think it may have been pence in the debates that made that false racist claim but I
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 08:57 AM
Jun 2018

would not put it past trump to contradict one racist lie with another new racist lie

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
8. Why is nobody publicly countering his lies?
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 10:57 AM
Jun 2018

People are too lazy to look up the facts for themselves so they believe his bullshit. Why are we letting it go unchallenged?

It's so damn frustrating!

BSdetect

(8,999 posts)
10. Problem is they plant this crap deep into deplorable minds so easily.
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 01:41 PM
Jun 2018

Countering that requires intensive one to one therapy.

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