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Civic Justice

(870 posts)
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 09:05 AM Jun 2018

The Crash - "is coming" ... Trump will be the culprit and all the republicans will be complicit !!!

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Low taxes have always been the precursor to the decline in America. Please review the history below and it will prove to be evident.

When tax rates were high, IT FORCED Industry to invest in people, reinvest in building and growth, and provide benefits and pensions. The means and methods for the Industrialist to keep some of their money was by the use of Tax Write Off, but those tax writes off were for the expense of labor, the expense of benefits, the expense of reinvesting IN AMERICA, and the expense of investing in communities by direct and chariatable contribution. America, grew rapidly and was made strong by this process.

As you will see below, every cycle where tax was lowered, America declined. Once tax were lowered, and no mandate to invest in America. The mandate to reinvest in America was no longer necessary for the industrialist to keep more money.

Once the lower tax process was put in place, companies no longer wanted unions, because they no longer needed the massive write off to keep more of their money and they were no longer under the mandate to invest in America. Therefore, they no longer cared to pay benefits, or provide pensions, because they no longer needed the write off, BECAUSE the tax had been lowered to a level, they could keep more of their money and have no mandate and no responsibility to need the write off of labor, of reinvestment in America.

They now were flush with cash profits, and with lower taxes they made and kept more money than they'd ever kept, but their greed made them unaware, they were no longer investing in people, cities and had no concern or interest to reinvest in building and growth modeling. This opened the door... for the exodus of industry, because they could now "Outsource" to foreign lands, and keep even more of their profits and have a lesser tax bill at the same time. Result: America Declined, Wages Stagnated, Pensions were wiped out, and Unions Destroyed. This carried over into deteriorated Infrastructure, poor funding for schools, and general society began to suffer a mass decline; unemployment increased, and underemployment was made common across the landscape of America.

The Democratic Message Must endeavor to explain to the public how Taxes Relate to Our Growth and Stability. We must educate the public again, about the responsibility of industry to pay higher taxes, to pay a living wage, and provide employees benefits, and we need the value presence of Unions to help hold them accountable. We need to re-establish the proper write off, for these things, and do so at a rate, that it become "MANDATORY" for companies to reinvest in America by the process of managed growth and assured stability, as being the means to get a substantial tax write off.

To make this work, we must penalize America companies who move out of America in aims and hope to circumvent this process. We impose "stiff quota's" on imports, and even stiffer quota's of American companies that operate from foreign soil.
We must see means to stops the targeting of America Industry, by flooding of imports from foreign shores".

We build a target goal, that Americans MUST produce and manufacture no less than 50% of what we consume, and if we do it the right way, that may expand up to 60% of what we consume. It's not the type of protectionism that becomes globally seen as negative, because other countries who are struggling with unemployment and infrastructure decline, will follow the lead of America, and this will put their people back to work as well, doing the same within their own nations. 40-50% will be the range of what nations Import from Other Nations... of Manufactured Goods and Products. This means no nations suffers itself to be a "giant marketing object" for any other nations imports. It will expand options and restore quality in products and manufactured goods. Then the public will have an environment of sustainable industrial systems.

From a global Alliance, Ore and Mineral Process Agreements with Ore and Mineral Processed Materials, will have a global price range that makes it functional for Nations to buy from each other these natural resource, to support their internal product and goods manufacturing.

Done with the right dynamics on a "fair play system".. all nations rise and become more stable, instead of the gross imbalance that we see today.
The taxation will rebuild and sustain the systems that advance societies.

Those who balk, should realize, "American Currency" is a national security instrument, as well as its the medium of exchange, but the money is a government instrument. Thus so, it is up to the governance to protect its valuation of its currency, as a base element of our Monetary system, and to do that.. requires high penalty including forfeiture of any who hide money in Off shore Accounts. IT should be declared as an Act of High Treason and a Treasonous Felony of the most injurious level.
When nations don't protect the "instrument that facilitate its Monetary System", it become void of being responsible to the nation, its systems and its society of people.

We need a Democratic Campaign that focuses Re-educating the public about Civic's and How Economic Policy and Monetary Stability is critical to the Civics and Civility of and within our Society.

(Much of the current day society, have not been taught what the purpose of the Stock Market was designed for) It was designed so, Average American and Institution could invest in the stability and research and development within industry, and to sustain MANAGED GROWTH.
It has been turned into a Casino... with a game of chasing breaking records every 3 months. That is a 100% PERVERSION of what this market was designed for. Quarterly Reports were designed to take note of production and sales to measure 'actual performance". It was not designed for high speculating betting. Nor was it designed with a game as if it should break a record every 3 months. The system was NEVER designed for stocks to trade at 300% (+) above its actual capability to perform and produce. The Stock Market was never designed for companies to buy and loot each other and make claim to do so, on "over-inflated value", as a means to encumber one company with debt it can't pay, while it decimates another into oblivion, and ultimately disenfranchising citizens with mass cycles of unemployment. Therefore, we need to write new rules government Mergers and Acquisition. We must relearn the principles of sustain competitive industry, because what we have now is a system that by circumvention has become a system of "monopolies", constructed through the network of holding companies. Monopolies is a dis-service to the public, it destroys choice, and decimates competition, and the result is always, lower service, higher cost, and mass unemployment. These acts serve to decimate all sectors of American society, from the Rural Areas, to the Suburban Areas, to the Cities Areas.

Things that never should have happen... AT&T buying Time Warner, Cell phone companies buying up others, Google buying up anything that competes and could stand on its on, Amazon buying up competitors.
Additional things that should never happen.. certainly not with any company that is traded publicly. is "over expansion". Over expansion is a ruse, it leads to over stocking, and market saturation beyond markets ability to sustain such saturation, as a result, we see a rise in "dollar stores', because they are the new model of "liquidators', so these over saturated stores can make false claim of high product movement, as they quarterly "dump" mass volumes in the liquidation system, and record it as stock movement, which on paper looks like the store is performing. This is the fiction, that drives the stock ticker, and then the Executives Borrow based on the Stock Ticker Fiction. Bankers led, and Insurance Companies Underwrite this madness, as the fiction of Economic Movement is a delusion painted to the public, but reality is... none of this trickles down into better wage and better working conditions and improvements in the lives of the people. It only translates into the wealthy now making claim to be double and triple digit Billionaires. RESULT: America suffers in every category, WHY, BECAUSE American Currency is not being circulated through the hands and lives of the America people.

Our monetary system and the currency it utilized was designed to "circulate through the hands of the people" in a continual cycle, both for stability and incremental improving valuation. This was to be managed by the Federal Reserve system, by the use of rate management for the way capital flows in providing the funding to recirculate money through the system.

Our Education system has suffered a Mass Failure in the University Network, when it comes to Finances. Greed has replaced Responsibility, and the system is now on a trajectory, that results to have centered the wealth in the 1% while the 99% is under paid, underemployed and our infrastructure and the industry as well as our very own educational system has suffered. Our communities suffer as there is not the circulation of money at the level needed for basic home maintenance, therefore we have an expanding ghetto of decaying properties from Coast to Coast.

We sit atop more than $20 Trillion in Actual Dollar Debt... yet, we have the ignorance of an Administration who gave away more than a Trillion Dollars of Tax benefit to the wealthy, who already were not paying their share of taxes. We gave it to them with No Mandate to Re-invest in America. They took that money, bought back their own companies stocks, so the executives stock valuation would be higher, it was a ruse to increase their own holding valuation... Because they feel the public does not have the intellect to understand the sham that has been played out.

Now.. the next phase is to decease the public assistance to cover up the fact, of the looting, by claiming we can't afford to sustain our public programming.

IT'S CALLED "ECONOMIC TREASON" against the American Nation and Its America People, by the Executives and Our Executive Administration and sanctioned by the vile of a Republican Congress, and its class and ethnicity division programming, that models every aspect of the old system of the Confederacy. Where the wealth was in the hands of a few, and those few controlled the entirety of the government.

We need a Democratically Funded, "MOVIE" that outlines this madness, because Movies is the best way, to get a moving picture image of this information out to the people. Its needs to be an Epic Feature... and Made For TV... so All American can see for themselves. There is no other way to educate the people in mass volumes at a rapid pace. It needs to chronicle the trek across time... and show the reality of it. while it includes the decimation that has been done to the poor and the minorities and how racism is used to disrupt and distract and divert from the truths that is being done to the nation and the people. people can spend 100's of millions on campaigns, and movie making, but a Campaign Movie, that shows the reality of the Right Wing, Wealthy and Republican Led Malice Against America and the American People. is what is needed.

We can't wait for this education to be done in the slow pace of school curriculum, but it should be followed up after the Movie series as standard programming within our educational system, as to how and what is taught, in Civics Education from the first grade through every year that Education is engaged, throughout within the University System.

We can no longer afford an uneducated society. Therefore, we use the tools of Media to Mass Educate People. Then we can move into the Change that is needed.

America has been lulled into a society with a short attention span, and people don't like to read anymore, therefore, it has to reach the public by creative means, to bring the education into the general public in a way they can interpret, understand and see in real time imagery and information dispensing. Nothing, can do that like the crafting of a Domestic Pride and American Democracy Supporting structure Movie... That shows the people what and how our currency, our monetary system was designed to work, and contrast that with how its been damaged and is being pushed to destruction.

People need to be able to see the big picture. IF we can create "TV Series" about fiction and drama, then we certainly can create one that shows "Destruction of the American Democracy". A year long series, can serve to touch "every" America and every American household.
We can demonstrate within this series how the necessity of civic's education is key to building an informed society, as well as we can demonstrate how small business is the key to the redevelopment of "All" of America, that expands from the Rural Areas, to the Suburban Areas to the Cities... from Coast to Coast. It can show the necessity of Environmental Protection,to the advances in how to structurally integrate technology into our advancing society.

We can change the Trajectory of America, to be and become what the Declaration of Independence was established for, and what our Constitution was designed to frame up our governance and how we govern and grow as a society... and how the reality of Democracy is designed to function, based on the foundational premise of equality... and that takes a re-education of American People as a whole.

We should use the tools of mass communication that we have, and "a Series of Network Designed Movie that Chronicles our downfall, and how to rebuild... is "Fast Education unto the Masses". If All Our Democratic Politicians and constituency support such a project, then the Democratic Ideals can be taught to the America Public for the Salvation of America, in record time. We can't afford any more the cycles of "tid bits spins" as is the current system, which is made up of political bickering that uses distracted by "drama antics" of republican fighting and aims of misdirection of the true messages.

Using Technology in a way to Inform All Americans... as well, the rest of the world will watch and learn how to make better their societies as well. Then we advance as a nation and a global society.

INFORMATION is the key to informing a society.... and there is nothing better in our system of the day, than "Movie Media' used as a tool, to get the message out, in vivid color and live voice. Then the people can make more informed decisions and understand whats at stake when they make decisions. We can no longer rely on the "media spins of political campaign advertisement and the vile games it plays...
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History and the Growth of America.... a look at tax rates



TRUTH ABOUT TAXES:

In 1913, the top tax bracket was 7 percent on all income over $500,000 ($11 million in today’s dollars); and the lowest tax bracket was 1 percent.

World War I


In order to finance U.S. participation in World War One, Congress passed the 1916 Revenue Act, and then the War Revenue Act of 1917. The highest income tax rate jumped from 15 percent in 1916 to 67 percent in 1917 to 77 percent in 1918. War is expensive.

After the war, federal income tax rates took on the steam of the roaring 1920s, dropping to 25 percent from 1925 through 1931. *( the drop led to wild speculation and callous waste of capital and mass gambling in our monetary system, and then came the Depression)

The Depression

Congress raised taxes again in 1932 during the Great Depression from 25 percent to 63 percent on the top earners.

World War II


As we mentioned earlier, war is expensive.

In 1944, the top rate peaked at 94 percent on taxable income over $200,000 ($2.5 million in today’s dollars3). That’s a high tax rate.

The 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s (Our Boom Years)


Over the next three decades, the top federal income tax rate remained high, never dipping below 70 percent.

The 1980s


The Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981 slashed the highest rate from 70 to 50 percent, and indexed the brackets for inflation.

Then, the Tax Reform Act of 1986, claiming that it was a two-tiered flat tax, expanded the tax base and dropped the top rate to 28 percent for tax years beginning in 1988.4 The hype here was that the broader base contained fewer deductions, but brought in the same revenue. Further, lawmakers claimed that they would never have to raise the 28 percent top rate.

The 28 percent top rate promise lasted three years before it was broken.

The 1990s-2012


During the 1990s, the top rate jumped to 39.6 percent.

However, the Economic Growth and Tax Relief and Reconciliation Act of 2001 dropped the highest income tax rate to 35 percent from 2003 to 2010. The Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010 maintained the 35 percent tax rate through 2012.

2013 – 2018


The American Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012 increased the highest income tax rate to 39.6 percent. The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act added an additional 3.8 percent on to this making the maximum federal income tax rate 43.4 percent.


3.8% was a minor increase, to provide improved health care for ALL AMERICAN.... a small price to provide improved health care accessibility to America people, it was an acts that understand one of our most percious national assets and national security assets is the health of our people.
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The Crash - "is coming" ... Trump will be the culprit and all the republicans will be complicit !!! (Original Post) Civic Justice Jun 2018 OP
Great post brucefan Jun 2018 #1
Very informative. Bookmarking. Thank you. Nt Shipwack Jun 2018 #2
We have some options Civic Justice Jun 2018 #3
I know people may be mad at me for saying this but...BRING ON THE F'ING CRASH. Trek4Truth Jun 2018 #4
We will get the Crash based on the current trajectory... Civic Justice Jun 2018 #5
++++Spot on . Change ! lunasun Jun 2018 #13
They are connected nolabels Jun 2018 #6
Timing. ThoughtCriminal Jun 2018 #8
The question is, CanonRay Jun 2018 #7
"Currency war, trade war...world war." roamer65 Jun 2018 #9
First up will be QE on a massive scale in the event of a crash. roamer65 Jun 2018 #10
the damage to the nation, being done today, threaten's the "Reserve Currency Status" of our Currency Civic Justice Jun 2018 #11
Don't let the thread die and early death.... add to it and keep it alive to spread the ideals. Civic Justice Jun 2018 #12
I've been saying on DU for some time that Trump Slump is coming. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #14
When is this "Crash" going to happen? former9thward Jun 2018 #15
We don't have the luxury of being too Lazy to write out our thought Civic Justice Jun 2018 #16
Nothing will change until Moderate White People and Right Wing White people face the truth!!! Civic Justice Jun 2018 #17
It is coming, and I think this time it will be spectacular. smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #18
 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
3. We have some options
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 10:25 AM
Jun 2018

Investing in "Municipal Bonds'... it won't make one instant money, but the money invested, WILL improve ones local municipal environment. that means stability of city and community, improvements in city and community infrastructure and it means the Municipality has better resources to help improve the lives of its citizen population and means to support a robust municipal economic development.

For the individual, it is a safe vehicle for their capital, as well as it promotes a vested insurance like mentality to protect and care for ones municipality.

Its a swift and huge change from Investing in Public Traded Companies, who's valuation is pure fiction, and subject to dire crash based on the fears generated from the Casino gaming of commodities.

A mass conversion to Municipal Bonds, changes the dynamic of America. It forces Industry to Rethink how they function, it forces the Stock Market to focus on getting back to "why" it was created. It take American people out of the Casino Gaming, and the Get Rich Quick schemes that do noting but degrade manufactured goods and diminish services, and erodes the economic stability in and across this nation. It over time, forces the Stock Market to do "honest quarterly reporting" not based on speculation, but actual and real performance. It also means, investors have more say, that their capital in used in maintaining Industrial Stability as a 1st priority, and 2nd, to invest in research and development, and be mandated to be respectful and honest in Managed Growth. The investors can then develop a fire wall against, mergers and take over, by mandating that "no company" can have NO More than 40% of its value listed on the Stock Market. That provides a force against Mergers and Take Over's... and any company bought by another, must have hard cash to do so, as well as impose a rule that no mergers can take place that displace more than 5% of the workforce. Then it must provide resources and means as well as training to the displaced. Then we retain the spirit of competition in our Industrial and Commercial systems where consumers have choice and retain quality standards.
This is the principle behind Regulatory Governance, and the Value to America, of what Regulatory Governance Provides in Stability and Checks and Balance, that gives us a system with assurance for stability.

Rebuilding America... is what matters.

President Obama had keen focus on such elements, when he said.. LET'S REBUILD AMERICA FROM THE BOTTOM UP, with a LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. His slogan was "CHANGE".... but people did not have the patience or the gut to embrace the patience and investment themselves into the necessary challenges that it takes to make and have CHANGE.

Republican knew what his plan was, and their "Greed Mentality, became RABID, at the mere thought of CHANGE, that was of grand design to "Enfranchise the America People" with a long term stability programming, that focused on Economic Equilibrium Across the nation.

IF people had understood, it would have taken over time the recycling of money through the hands of the people, and that circulation would over time "reinvigorate america and american people'... and economic would function for America and the American people... We would be on a path of growth beyond our dreams, for generations to come.

We would have improved our system of education, we would have gained health care for the masses and people would not meet the age of retirement and become destitute.

We would have ultimately changed the dynamics of Home Financing, with low rates and shorter terms to pay off homes, which means, people would be able to save more for their retirement, and we would slow the wild market valuation of homes, and create a system where equity gains would be reasonable, while at the same time, increase in value would also have break points, that trigger property tax increase to meet the increased demands for public services. Therefore, there would be no wild market price hikes, and thus creating home-ownership for millions of Americans, to maintain and sustain home owner communities.
Homeowner communities are know for having "lower crime" and improved conditions, because of the long term stability is creates.

CHANGE... was a long term comprehensive plan... It's such a tragedy, that we allowed Republican to retake congress, after we'd seen the Republican mess that nearly crashed the nation. We as a society, simply did not have enough knowledge to understand the dynamic's of what "CHANGE" meant and how it would be necessary to face the challenges to meet and create Change. President Obama, told the people.. It would take their help... but unfortunately, America had been groomed to expect overnight magic... and driven by short attention span, and commercialization that created an impatience in the culture of society. Until... people were unable to see long term, and some turned on Obama, midstream.

Sadly we may not get another Obama any time soon. Currently, Elizabeth Warren does have the vision, and does understand the economic and the finances of our current situation and she understand the changes that are needed. Its why the Consumer Protection was created and she was placed at its head. the more we know, the more we can come to learn and understand.

Not many can come close to the nature of fight she puts up, because she truly was and is a believer in the CHANGE that President Obama envisioned.

Society forgot too quickly, what Obama was faced with of challenge, which as a devastated economy, 2 wars and multiple war like conflicts and a rabid republican congressional system and a race based Tea Party, that embraced the ideals of Conservatism, (as in: Conserving the Past both economically and racially and socially).... as they had no concern for the Change needed to build the future that must be built if America is to move forward.

The give away $1.x Trillion tax cut for the wealthy could have funded health care for the next 40+ yrs. It could have fixed infrastructure in 50 states to a functional level, it could have funding improvements in our schools for the next 25-30 yrs. there is a mass of things it could have done.

The $Trillions spent during the Bush Administration, at a rate of more than 30 billion a month in Iraq and 20 billion a month in Afghanistan, could have been used to contribute $1 billion a month to "every state" in the nation.
The $Trillions it took to get our economy off its knees after the Republican Crash of 2007-2008 could have fixed our entire freeway and roadway systems all across America, and at the same time, covered the cost of removing industrial blight, or paid off the Student Loan debt and funding Universities where our youth could be educated for extremely low cost, or next to nothing, to improve our societies 21st century needs of 21st century education.

But, Republican System does not want people to know any of this. It does not want even the poor whites who back them to know, they are the largest recipient of public services that they have been groomed to attack.

We must know... we have options... and the options is for us to Embrace "Change" and to have and develop the patience to support the stamina needed to make that change. Only the Democratic Ideals can achieve this.... as we see fully the vile and madness of what Republican Ideals present.. and it is not for the betterment of America and American People.

 

Trek4Truth

(515 posts)
4. I know people may be mad at me for saying this but...BRING ON THE F'ING CRASH.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 10:28 AM
Jun 2018

And I do have money in the stock market. I don't care. I want this ended NOW. The only thing that gets through to everybody and at once is MONEY. BRING IT.

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
5. We will get the Crash based on the current trajectory...
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 10:38 AM
Jun 2018

Relatively speaking.... what we too must work on is "demographic understanding of the need for democratic equality among all multi cultural people, otherwise... the crash will only fuel a "blame game" done by ethnic bias and bigotry madness.

Therefore, we have these sociological matters that we must address and that involves a determined promotion of civic and civil and ethnic equality.

If we can address that and make improvement, then we can weather the crash in the endeavor to Rebuild From The Bottom Up.

The crash will bring the needed backlash against the wealthy, and open peoples eyes to the vile of greed that has damaged so much. Then we can have a system, that awakens to the need to "NOT" worship the wealthy. Nor be Hoodwinked by the peacock struggling that the wealthy have used to delude the people with their pomp and pageantry, as if they are of some Royalty status.

Only then can we have means to crush the class and cast system they have tried to institute, as if America has some Royal Courts. We are not a Monarchy, nor are we designed to function under Monarchical Influence or Rule. This is a necessary learning that must be learned across America, to remove the FAUX Fiction of Royalty by claim of wealth.

Politically, we MUST have Federal Campaign Financing so the wealthy can no longer buy "Public Office". When we have Federal Campaign Financing, then we work to diminish the accessibility of Lobbyist directly relating with Politicians. If a Lobbyist has a interest or concern, it can only be brought before congress THROUGH a citizen panel, not by any elected official. We must dissolve the Electoral College and respect the voice of the people as One Vote, One Person !!!

CHANGE... is necessary for us to get back to the premise of DEMOCRACY.. which can't exist without "EQUALITY" BEING FIRST IN EXISTENCE AND SUPPORTED AS THE CORE PRINCIPLE IN OUR SYSTEM.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
6. They are connected
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 10:43 AM
Jun 2018

When the bottom falls out and they realize how much they were believing the lies foolishly, the crash will not be far behind

Trumpists Are Suffering the Free Market Consequences Of Being Deplorable
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210780684

ThoughtCriminal

(14,057 posts)
8. Timing.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 01:39 PM
Jun 2018

There will be a crash, but it is likely to happen after the next mid-term and possibly after the next Presidential election.

If it happens the week after Inauguration and Democrats have won the election, the Republicans and corporate media will blame them.

CanonRay

(14,146 posts)
7. The question is,
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 11:15 AM
Jun 2018

is the trade war going to be the black swan for the crash, or is the crash going to escalate the trade war, leading to a real war. Throw in, just for fun, increasing climactic calamities, refugee issues, etc, etc, etc. Makes your head spin.

roamer65

(36,748 posts)
9. "Currency war, trade war...world war."
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 02:22 PM
Jun 2018

Regardless of his politics, trends forecaster Gerald Celente is right on that statement.

roamer65

(36,748 posts)
10. First up will be QE on a massive scale in the event of a crash.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 02:27 PM
Jun 2018

Stocks, bonds, mutual funds and money market funds. The Federal Reserve will be buying it ALL. They will go after your 401k through outright confiscation or by forcing you to buy Treasury funds.

They won’t give a shit about inflation.

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
11. the damage to the nation, being done today, threaten's the "Reserve Currency Status" of our Currency
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 04:34 PM
Jun 2018

Those caught up in the "greed chase", are blind to the "devaluation of their holdings". Not all of them will be able to convert their money into other lead currencies, and not all will be able to invest in precious metals. Some will see Millions, and 100's of millions diminished, and other will see a plunge in the billion dollar status. Inflation will further cause the value of purchasing power to plummet which will erode the holding they think they have today.
They won't be able to sell the multi million dollar mansions, nor can they maintain the upkeep, and those with the fleet of high cost vehicles will see them, sit and deterioate, as they can't sell it and they won't have the comfort to maintain them.

There will be some survivors, which includes those in the farming industry, will prosper, but their value of gain, won't have the equation the same, because the dollar will be worth far less. Those who invest in "water rights" will have stability in their incomes, because we have a limited supply of fresh water across the nation. Some industries will implode, and others won't be as Marquee as they are today. People won't be seeking designer labels, they will simply be seeking clothing.
We will have some serious challenges, and if we don't stop the escalation of Charter Schools and giving Funds to Private Schools, we will see the advance of cost based schooling to overtake Public Schools.

We will however find that the entrepreneurial spirit will become stronger and more dominant than Industrial Job seeking. (The exact same model we find in many Asian nations. IF we recall the Economic Crash did not have such an impact on places like India, because they have a small business and individual business based society, in their general population. It is hard to impact that, when they provide the basic sustenance that people need to survive. We will however need to be far more cautious bout what we buy, because what we see today, of Trump and Republican attacks on EPA, will also bring attacks on Food and Drug Safety guidelines, and we won't have the safety controls we enjoy today.

This is the result of Republican Ideology, "they want non regulation", except what is instituted by the wealthy in their gain ot produce and sell without governmental regulatory guidelines and control.

These are solid messages that must be given to the people so the people can understand what the Democratic system is driven to protect against. That's the narrative that best conveys the value of what our Democratic System must promote in terms people can actually understand and truly believe in. We are at a tipping point. If we fail to gain congress, we will be on a downslide that will devastate America.

We will see even more funding taken from the Elderly care, and we will see more funds taken from our children, and a system where only the well to do can get the services for their children that children need.

One only has to think of what and how this same was done to "black people" during slavery and post slavery. Then people can see the vile that humanity can invoke upon other human beings. While the wealthy bask in the haughtiness of their slothful ways. Already... what Trump administration demonstrates is: a lack of regard for the elderly, because they are beyond the age to be 'workers to generate money for the wealthy. We heard Trump speak of "Apprentices" and then float the idea and concept to lower the age for industry to hire your kids, because it means it can work them for 40 or more years, before they reach the age of 60 in a system of low wage cycles of using them as apprentices, which is nothing more than another term for "indentured servants". It will provide to the wealthy a continual pool of apprentices, which means, there is no need to pay people more as they get older, because they will simply be replaced by the younger apprentices.

This is the history the Right Wing know all too well. because they've already done it before, with slavery and indenture and they were groomed in mindset to lust for a return to that type of system, since the abolition of slavery.
We have to know and understand that.

The only way to avoid it, is to consider and reconsider the system of CHANGE that Obama spoke of. It's why Obama said, maybe his Presidency was 20 years too early, because America was not of the awareness to stand behind the plan with the unshakable determination they needed to be driven with. We may find, a desire to make possible for a President to be re-elected after having been out of office for one to two terms, but the matter is, he may not be of health and will to want to jump back into the role. So... we need to pay attention to our most viable options for President, and that needs to start taking shape this very day. Again, the only on who is on the scene who an pick up where Obama was derailed, is Elizabeth Warren. The others are more spot focused, and not full picture driven. That matters greatly to understand such.
She is the only won't who does not mince words and does not back down from her points in the face of challenge, but her points is driven and stated as concerns for "all" the people, as well as the necessity to respect our institutions and governance departments for the job they are designed to do.

No one else is even on the Radar with her focus on the economics and damages being done by the collusion of congress and the wealthy and public consumer concerns, and the young generations economic viability to gain stability agenda items.
Sander's concept is too radical, because no nation survives and prospers without taxation, some of his ideas may meld in with the agenda of warren, concerning education and a few other things, but he is not as entrenched in the elements of social and civic equality to the depth that Warren's programming is entrenched. She maybe could make beneficial use of Sander to oversee the health care, by her model to provide for everyone, and meld it with Universal Medicare, which sanders speaks of. But Medicare will need to be full circle, without the current divisions of part II and prescription, which should be melded into one under the term Medicare, then Medicaid, focused on the Elderly and the Disabled. Then there is the stabilization of Social Security, that must increase its wage level for deduction to expand unto, including a Social Security Tax on the wealthy, who must support the system, because they benefit from the labors people provide to their business and industry. Even at a rate of 3% for those who's income exceed the level, where they are ineligible to receive Social Security benefits. that is a contributor they make to the stability of an aging general population, and they are able to deduct 1.2 % of their 3% contribution on their Federal Tax Return. that 3% collected will go into a fund, specifically directed to social security disability, as many people become disabled due to working conditions. That should not be a burden upon the normal retirement age social security funds.
This is what Freedom looks like, because Freedom is a By Product of Responsibility !!!!! and Everyone in America must be responsible, including business and industry.

We have to think these type of things through until they become public conversation, then we promote narrative of conversation to be about things that matter for the long term viability of our system and our society.

Industry, must no longer be able to abandon facilities, leaving behind industrial blight, they must buy into an insurance designed specifically to "Industrial Blight Removal". then we won't have a landscape littered with abandoned decaying facilities. ( this also translates into job creation, to dismantle such facilities). Industry often uses local and country as well as state funds, in the ways of subsides and tax concession, therefore they have a duty to support this type of bling removal insurance. They owe it to the people who's tax money and tax burden assumed by relinquishing tax concession to the business. THIS HAS TO BE IMPLEMENTED Nation wide.

I truly hope people share links to commentary threads with others, as well as other thread you find suitable with others, and ask them to share such thread with others they know. to give them some perspective structured talking points, to help invigorate the minds into common concerns, then we will be promoting what the Democrats stand for, and what is within the details of what we want to build, create and achieve of a better America, that meets and fits with the Democratic Platform and its Long Term Agenda.
Therefore, if you like the content the thread discusses, please share it with others.
We can retake the public narrative and in doing so, spread a sense of hope, through helping people broaden their concepts and give them substance to make and have and spread conversation. I think such things can not only increase our voter support, it can invigorate people with the passion to get out and vote. When they can see more detail and see better how things directly impact them and their future personally.


We all can add to this thread the ideas that can help make us better as a people and as a nation.

Let's all help to change the way we think, and help improve the things we talk about, then we get people onboard with our ideals for a better nation.

We have so many areas to address for our improvement for the future, and we can do it, but it takes some help from everyone.
 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
12. Don't let the thread die and early death.... add to it and keep it alive to spread the ideals.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 07:53 AM
Jun 2018

What we value is Democratic Ideals... then it is up to each of us, to contribute to spreading information to help people think and learn of what we must do, what we face and what we must bond together and support, as well as what we must promote to help bond people into the support of ideas for the future.

You thoughts and ideas matter, please be of acceptance of that, and be of the conviction to share and promote your ideas.
Reluctance will not serve us well, and we can't just rely on the politicians to spread the word, we have to be the politicians as citizens, because elected politicians job and role is to represent what we believe. They can't do that, if we don't tell them and stand behind what we believe.

The internet is a great tool that has given us means to share our voices, and spread our voices in ways we never had before.

Use it.... but to let threads die a death in a day, does not benefit us. Its unfortunate we don't have means to "pin" a topic or thread of discussion, and its not a good things that such forums don't have the means to promote itself into the main stream media and places for general acceptance. As it is currently true, that millions of American, don't even know this site exist.
But people can make it known that it exist, by sharing links on every social media platform, by sharing likes in the billions of text that are sent, by making conversation of the points we come to believe in.. That's the work we can do, and it cost us absolutely nothing to do so, other than a few moments of time, to insert a link and click send or click post.

We can know this works if we consider how well the young people at Parkland, used social media, text messaging and every tool the internet provides to spread their messages and they did it in record time. The women's march used it and amassed massive numbers of women to participate in the march.

We must all take an active part in as many ways as we can. Or we leave ourselves at a disadvantages, when the Republican Narratives dominate the Media TV.

I don't know any other way to try to appeal to people the need to spread truths that need to be spread to help open and support the minds that Love America and Love American Democracy.

I've reached over 1.8 million people utilizing forums on just one other site, as well as I post commentary frequently on news articles, as well as my own blog, and any place I see to write where others may read with commentary about a variety of subjects that support the challenges we face within making a better democracy. Others use various forms of activism, but we can leave no means unused.... What's at stake is the Ideals of Democracy we know, and want.


Bernardo de La Paz

(49,075 posts)
14. I've been saying on DU for some time that Trump Slump is coming.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:58 AM
Jun 2018

RepubliCONMEN will blame it on Democrats and Obama and Hillary's emails.

former9thward

(32,165 posts)
15. When is this "Crash" going to happen?
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:26 AM
Jun 2018

These articles regularly get posted on the internet year after year, yet they never give a time. Why? Because if they did they could be called out on it when it doesn't happen.

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
16. We don't have the luxury of being too Lazy to write out our thought
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 09:51 AM
Jun 2018

Everyone who claims to be a Democrat and a Liberal... have a responsibility to have voice and put it to use, by as many means as one can.

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
17. Nothing will change until Moderate White People and Right Wing White people face the truth!!!
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 04:07 PM
Jun 2018

when they face the truth, they need to acknowledge it and not try and deny it, and then 'stand up" for America.. not just themselves, but Stand up with the rest of the multicultural people of America.

But, they don't have a history of accepting the truth they see and standing up, especially when that truth involves standing up to white people..

It was their sons and daughter, who sold away America, and it is their Sons and Daughter, that FIGHT AGAINST paying a living wage... It's not some Alien from space creating this madness.

It it being done by Moderate White People and Right Wing White people, and the poor among them scream "we been left behind" but they won't blame it on their own sons and daughter, who created this craziness, by riding a degree, and chasing purely self enrichment at the expense of anything and anyone. !!!!

That's a HARD TRUTH... that won't change until "white society awakens and take on the responsibility of what they and their children have done. They sent these kids to university with a "get rich quick mentality, by any means".... now All of American suffers because of it.

They came out of university and wanted a big house and marquee car.. with no thought that it took their own parents decades to earn and have it, but these kids wanted it after sitting in a classroom and partying for 4 yrs. Its the damnest thing ever... and then they DETESTED the same UNIONS, that gave their parents jobs... because they detested anyone making money for the labor they were doing and the skill they had. Because the University, filled their dumb ass heads with the delusion, that they were special..... and they proceeded.. to FU-- America and every aspect of its industry and systems. Then want people to kiss their ass, because they have a paid for degree!!!! Some came out with that sham degree and started looking down on their own parents, because they thought they were and are better than anyone.

Many of them don't know a damn thing about Civics Elements of Society Function... and Why it has the structure it once had of a connection between business and community, and why the value of Unions, is what created the once upon a time Middle Class..... They were trained in "greed ignorance" and too self consume in vain blindness to even know it.

Name an Industry in America they have not screwed up!!!! any business that exist, sell lower quality, won't staff the help needed, and don't give a damn about customer service, and many do nothing but "over leverage the business" so they can get overpaid based on Fiction. One has to ask a simple question, "how can anyone screw up a Grocery Store Company"... that's how absurd their lack of understanding and void of real knowledge about people, community and quality and ethics. All they care about is "ego", "status" and "materialism" and "trying to pretend they are more important than they are"....

Its a shame..... and we as a society don't want to speak up and tell the truth about it.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
18. It is coming, and I think this time it will be spectacular.
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 04:35 PM
Jun 2018

Very unfortunate for most of us, but significantly damaging. Trump's policies are only going to drive us further in to the ground. We are already seeing short-term repercussions, but the long-term results will be much more damaging. He is setting us up for a disaster of epic proportions.

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