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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 04:57 PM Jun 2018

Democratic Rep. Elijah Cummings Says Red Hen Owner Should Have Served Sarah Sanders


by Tamar Auber | 4:49 pm, June 24th, 2018

Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) is weighing in on the Red Hen controversy.

On Saturday, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders sent out a tweet saying a Lexington, Virginia restaurant asked her to leave because she worked for Trump.

-snip-





Yet, according to Cummings, the Red Hen owner did not do the right thing when she asked Sanders to leave because of her politics. “First of all, I think, as far as the restaurant incident, I think the restaurant owner should have served her. I really do,” Cummings said on Face the Nation on Sunday.

He then noted that much of the blame for the lack of civility in the current political climate lies with President Donald Trump.

“I think President Trump has created this. Since he’s become president, even before, he’s basically given people license to state things that are ugly and those things then turn into actions, as we can now see,” Cummings continued on. “But we’ve got to get away from this and we’ve got to concentrate on what is important at this moment. And we’ve got to get a — he’s got to be more competent.”

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https://www.mediaite.com/tv/elijah-cummings-sarah-sanders-red-hen-donald-trump-video/
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Democratic Rep. Elijah Cummings Says Red Hen Owner Should Have Served Sarah Sanders (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2018 OP
Better person than I. Iliyah Jun 2018 #1
As an elected official he has to say that but I'm betting deep inside.. brush Jun 2018 #46
Couldn't agree more, but for different reasons. I would have looked her in the eye, and said flibbitygiblets Jun 2018 #2
should have served her a plate... dhill926 Jun 2018 #3
He is a good person unlike SHS who thinks it's ok to deny service to lgbt JI7 Jun 2018 #4
That's how I see it, too. NY_20th Jun 2018 #7
I agree. Blue_true Jun 2018 #42
He is a dear and heroic man. I'm still glad they didn't serve her. Squinch Jun 2018 #5
Agree they need to feel the sting of rejection.. small compared to what they are handing out Thekaspervote Jun 2018 #28
I can see his point. He wants to take the high road. BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #6
No. The golden rule is that you treat others as you wish they would treat you. Tipperary Jun 2018 #14
do you really think bdamomma Jun 2018 #33
I did not say that, did I? Tipperary Jun 2018 #63
sorry I was not bdamomma Jun 2018 #67
I totally understand your point of view. Tipperary Jun 2018 #70
Treating others as you'd want to be treated is golden rule. Eye for an eye is Hammurabi's Code. bearsfootball516 Jun 2018 #15
Eye for an eye is the polar opposite of the golden rule. GulfCoast66 Jun 2018 #18
Exactly. Tipperary Jun 2018 #62
The Greedbangers' Golden Rule: "Those who have the gold rule" n/t progree Jun 2018 #48
Taking the high road .... LenaBaby61 Jun 2018 #59
I agree... FarPoint Jun 2018 #8
Ted Lieu, Eric Swalwell, Maxine Waters, Adam Schiff, Elijah Cummings & oasis Jun 2018 #9
Those are some genuinely decent people. VOX Jun 2018 #61
Cummings had Hillary's back all through her marathon, 11 hour oasis Jun 2018 #65
Cummings is an extraordinary man. VOX Jun 2018 #68
You don't take the high road with psychopaths and fascists. John Fante Jun 2018 #10
Agree 100% Meadowoak Jun 2018 #26
.......... bdamomma Jun 2018 #34
Exactly. That just brings on more danger. nt Blue_true Jun 2018 #43
If you do, they will just laugh in your face and walk all over you. smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #47
+1, its against self preservation uponit7771 Jun 2018 #49
Absofuckinglutely. Kenny Rogers knows. Dave Starsky Jun 2018 #66
I wondered if it had been a legal thing to do. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #11
I agree with him. We should be better than the rumpistas. Tipperary Jun 2018 #12
The owner of the Red Hen said her decision was not based John Fante Jun 2018 #30
She also said her employees didn't want to serve SHS catrose Jun 2018 #32
Agreed. John Fante Jun 2018 #37
We're Already Better Than Them ProfessorGAC Jun 2018 #71
I love Elijah Cummings, but on this I must disagree NastyRiffraff Jun 2018 #13
Fuckabee should be shunned EVERYWHERE she goes... she doesn't deserve recognition period! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #51
The Paradox of Tolerance Cha Jun 2018 #60
If businesses weren't able to deny services to same-sex couples, I would agree. roamer65 Jun 2018 #16
I agree with Rep. Cummings. democrank Jun 2018 #17
Someone pointed out on DU that a pastry shop owner refused to serve Joe Biden. Blue_true Jun 2018 #44
But she wasn't refused service because of her politics NastyRiffraff Jun 2018 #69
Nope.. can't agree. This is the exact problem we've gotten ourselves into... unitedwethrive Jun 2018 #19
Make her pay in advance exboyfil Jun 2018 #20
Generally, I agree with Rep. Cummings. However... GoCubsGo Jun 2018 #21
I disagree. I am so glad there are brave activists out there doing this. It is past time riversedge Jun 2018 #22
Yeah, here, snort Jun 2018 #23
I would refuse to serve her before I defiled her food, there are limits. Blue_true Jun 2018 #45
Zero tolerance for fascists. Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #24
+1. They are traitors and criminals. dalton99a Jun 2018 #52
It's not 'politics' - it's supporting those who want to let the nazis take over nini Jun 2018 #25
Exactly, nini.. and Stephanie Wilkinson Explains her position.. Cha Jun 2018 #41
Will say this again - smile and give her some complimentary chocolate pie Funtatlaguy Jun 2018 #27
I'm generally against kicking people out of restaurants Renew Deal Jun 2018 #29
I respectfully disagree. She gets on stage and lies every fucking day, ecstatic Jun 2018 #31
If I were a member of this administration I would not even think about walkingman Jun 2018 #35
I disagree Meowmee Jun 2018 #36
They could have just put extra spit in SHS's food. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2018 #38
But they DID serve her and her they ate about half the meal. secondwind Jun 2018 #39
Stephanie Wilkinson Explains her position and I agree.. Cha Jun 2018 #40
I'm not happy to admit it but I'm @ the point I'd be OK with tar & feathering trump leaders like SHS lunasun Jun 2018 #50
Maybe he should have her over for dinner lame54 Jun 2018 #53
We must take the highroad BULLSHIT. FUCK that crap. The time for being nice is Ferrets are Cool Jun 2018 #54
Any Resistance We DO is Higher than Babies in Cages. Cha Jun 2018 #55
I agree Raine Jun 2018 #56
We're suppose to be polite when trump is creating his own brown shirts? I put nothing past him.. Cha Jun 2018 #57
Respect the guy, but nope. Adrahil Jun 2018 #58
I'm ok with shunning DeminPennswoods Jun 2018 #64
Forcing staff to serve her probably wouldn't have turned out well. Orsino Jun 2018 #72

brush

(53,978 posts)
46. As an elected official he has to say that but I'm betting deep inside..
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 07:56 PM
Jun 2018

he agrees with the restaurant owner.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
2. Couldn't agree more, but for different reasons. I would have looked her in the eye, and said
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 05:02 PM
Jun 2018

"Hello Sara Huckabee Sanders". We're going to make something EXTRA special for you, something you REALLY deserve based on the (air quotes here) "service" you provide for our country. I'll be RIGHT BACK!!!"

Just act fucking maniacal and then let her wonder what happened to her food. Break no laws of course...

JI7

(89,289 posts)
4. He is a good person unlike SHS who thinks it's ok to deny service to lgbt
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 05:03 PM
Jun 2018

But is suddenly outraged when same is done to her bigoted ass.

 

NY_20th

(1,028 posts)
7. That's how I see it, too.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 05:08 PM
Jun 2018

I'm not feeling any pity for her being refused service in one restaurant.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
42. I agree.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 07:20 PM
Jun 2018

After seeing bakers and restaurant owners on their side deny service, and seeing a DOCTOR, WHO TOOK AN OATH refuse to treat the sick infant of two gay women, turning the other cheek is bullshit. While I appreciate Rep. Cummings thoughts, it is high time that we start fighting fire with fire. Afterall, what is less civil than a doctor refusing to treat a very ill infant?

BigmanPigman

(51,674 posts)
6. I can see his point. He wants to take the high road.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 05:04 PM
Jun 2018

I, on the other hand, want to use the golden rule. An eye for an eye, do unto others, etc. I am tired of getting sand kicked in my face by bullies with no heart or brain.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
14. No. The golden rule is that you treat others as you wish they would treat you.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 05:15 PM
Jun 2018

Not an eye for an eye. Different reference there.

bdamomma

(63,974 posts)
33. do you really think
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 06:51 PM
Jun 2018

Sarah Huckabee should be treated with the golden rule after she has been lying in those press briefings.

I don't blame the owner for not serving her. I am not as forgiving.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
63. I did not say that, did I?
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 06:54 AM
Jun 2018

I simply corrected the other poster’s understanding of the golden rule.

LenaBaby61

(6,979 posts)
59. Taking the high road ....
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 04:49 AM
Jun 2018

Yet again IS going to cost us our pre-existing health coverage and some of us our Health Care PERIOD which is murder. When will Dems learn that thuglicans aren't playing with Dems? I'd have just not said ONE word about what happened to thr black-hearted, professional LIAR.

FarPoint

(12,486 posts)
8. I agree...
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 05:10 PM
Jun 2018

We can not follow the behaviors of tRump and his minions...as then we validate their abusiveness and thus give them permission to continue.

We must take a deep breath...remain professional....

oasis

(49,490 posts)
9. Ted Lieu, Eric Swalwell, Maxine Waters, Adam Schiff, Elijah Cummings &
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 05:11 PM
Jun 2018

Nancy Pelosi are all exceptional Democrats who serve in the House. They each have their own approach on how to handle various situations in the Era of Trump.

At crunch time, you can count on them all being on the same page.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
61. Those are some genuinely decent people.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 05:16 AM
Jun 2018

Thanks for giving those stalwarts a shout-out. They do deserve it.

oasis

(49,490 posts)
65. Cummings had Hillary's back all through her marathon, 11 hour
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 07:59 AM
Jun 2018

house committee hearing, several years ago. The hearing was an actual "witch hunt", concerning HRC's e-mails. As ranking member of the committee, Cummings took his cues from her testimony which helped her wear down the GOP thugs who were attempting to trip her up.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
68. Cummings is an extraordinary man.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 12:00 PM
Jun 2018

He took some hard licks on the civil-rights front lines in the 1960s, and here he is today, still fighting for the greater good.

He has lived through so much significant history, that he has BECOME history.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
11. I wondered if it had been a legal thing to do.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 05:12 PM
Jun 2018

It reminded me when the bakery refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple, citing religious beliefs.

Others reminded me of the difference, and of course that's true.

Still...is everyone going to start being rejected for service in a public place based on politics? Can I not use a public restroom in almost entire red areas in the south if I have an anti-Trump bumper sticker?

This is a dangerous path. Although Cummings is right in stating that Trump has lead the country down this path of disrespect for differences, for name calling, and putting down civil discourse, and hating the opposition. Trump has "his people." Everyone else is sh*t to him.

But no one needs my permission to do what he thinks is right. If she walked into my MEXICAN restaurant, I'd likely kick her out, too, legal or not, fanning the flames of hatred or not. Her being there would be an affront to all the Hispanics working there, and the culture that is celebrated at a Mexican restaurant. A culture that emphasizes family.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
12. I agree with him. We should be better than the rumpistas.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 05:13 PM
Jun 2018

How would we react if Obama’s press secretary was turned away from a restaurant? Wer really have to try not to turn into these scumfucks.

catrose

(5,079 posts)
32. She also said her employees didn't want to serve SHS
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 06:46 PM
Jun 2018

That makes her a hero in my book, that she wouldn't force them to something morally objectionable to them. Great boss!

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
37. Agreed.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 06:58 PM
Jun 2018

This administration is sneaking infants across state lines (many times in the middle of the night) and sticking them in tender-age facilities. INFANTS!!! That's just one of the many atrocities being carried out by Trump & Co right now.

And we're supposed to be cordial to these monsters?

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
13. I love Elijah Cummings, but on this I must disagree
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 05:14 PM
Jun 2018

I'm fine with restaurants, gyms, any recreational facility turning these scum away. It's not as if Sanders NEEDED to eat at that restaurant; she could have filled her stomach at Chic-Fil-A who would welcome her with open arms and probably give her free food. Grocery stores should let her shop there and she can eat at home. For anything that's not a necessity, I'm glad to see them shunned.

roamer65

(36,748 posts)
16. If businesses weren't able to deny services to same-sex couples, I would agree.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 05:29 PM
Jun 2018

Otherwise, I’m not onboard with Mr Cummings.

democrank

(11,115 posts)
17. I agree with Rep. Cummings.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 05:31 PM
Jun 2018

What if the shoe was on the other foot and the Red Hen owner had refused to serve Rep. Cummings because of his politics? What would we have said about that?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
44. Someone pointed out on DU that a pastry shop owner refused to serve Joe Biden.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 07:37 PM
Jun 2018

The sitting Vice President. The right cheered that, just as they cheered a cake baker refusing to bake a cake for a gay couple. They really don't give a shit about how we feel, they want to impose their will on society.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
69. But she wasn't refused service because of her politics
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 12:05 PM
Jun 2018

She was refused, as Red Hen's owner made clear, because she constantly and consistently lies to the American public.

Plus, Trump defended her today, and of course trashed the Red Hen. That alone is a reason to support the Red Hen.

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
19. Nope.. can't agree. This is the exact problem we've gotten ourselves into...
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 05:31 PM
Jun 2018

We give credibility to the other side as if they just have policy differences with us, when in fact their side is immoral and unjust. They should not be given the dignity of polite society. They need to be called out for their actions anytime and anyplace that we possibly can.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
20. Make her pay in advance
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 05:37 PM
Jun 2018

Also spend the entire time she is dining explaining why what she is doing is wrong.

Justification for paying in advance. It is known her boss does not honor contracts.

GoCubsGo

(32,103 posts)
21. Generally, I agree with Rep. Cummings. However...
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 05:37 PM
Jun 2018

Some people need to take that which they dish out before they'll ever learn anything. Mrs. Sanders is one such person. Whether or not she is capable of learning the lesson that was being taught to her remains to be seen.

riversedge

(70,465 posts)
22. I disagree. I am so glad there are brave activists out there doing this. It is past time
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 05:47 PM
Jun 2018

to take a stand. way past time.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
45. I would refuse to serve her before I defiled her food, there are limits.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 07:39 PM
Jun 2018

The Red Hen owner took a moral stand, she did the right thing.

nini

(16,672 posts)
25. It's not 'politics' - it's supporting those who want to let the nazis take over
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 05:56 PM
Jun 2018

BIG DIFFERENCE.

I have a lot of respect for Cummings but gotta disagree on this one. She is part of one of the biggest threats this country have ever seen.. She is the enemy.

Funtatlaguy

(10,896 posts)
27. Will say this again - smile and give her some complimentary chocolate pie
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 06:03 PM
Jun 2018

After she eats it, tell her the recipe came from the movie “The Help”.

Renew Deal

(81,900 posts)
29. I'm generally against kicking people out of restaurants
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 06:05 PM
Jun 2018

I don’t blame people for being upset about people that commit, excuse, and lie about crimes against humanity.

ecstatic

(32,798 posts)
31. I respectfully disagree. She gets on stage and lies every fucking day,
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 06:13 PM
Jun 2018

Last edited Sun Jun 24, 2018, 06:48 PM - Edit history (1)

covering and enabling the most evil man to hold office in recent history.

I'm tired of all the normalizing of them, their opinions, etc. Stop the idiotic trumper panels and stop trying to be civil with them. It's not working!

I'm done and have now begun my own Zero Tolerance policy. I don't care what they think or how they feel.

ETA: I understand that Cummings is probably viewing the situation from his own experiences of being kicked out of restaurants by racists. But I don't think the two issues are the same. Red Hen was trying to STOP a racist/fascist.

walkingman

(7,706 posts)
35. If I were a member of this administration I would not even think about
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 06:55 PM
Jun 2018

eating at a commercial establishment - they might be surprised at what is in/on their food. The same goes for anyone that wears MAGA paraphernalia.

38. They could have just put extra spit in SHS's food.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 07:07 PM
Jun 2018

I don't think the owner was wrong, however. The cantina scene in "Casablanca" comes to mind, where the Nazis are singing Nazi songs. Rick signals Sam to play "La Marseillaise" (the French national anthem) and everyone joins in, drowning out the Germans, who leave. It's a small victory, but it's symbolic of how you don't give up when faced with evil.

If we weren't in the middle of this moral crisis, I might reconsider my position, but with the issue of jailing babies there is no defensible side, and SHS is the principle defender of the president's immorality. Telling her to get out is the equivalent of having the cantina join in singing "La Marseillaise."

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
39. But they DID serve her and her they ate about half the meal.
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 07:12 PM
Jun 2018

They were politely asked to leave. We bet were comped for the meal.

Cha

(298,087 posts)
40. Stephanie Wilkinson Explains her position and I agree..
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 07:13 PM
Jun 2018


And, her employees voted to have sarahFuckingSanders asked to leave.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
50. I'm not happy to admit it but I'm @ the point I'd be OK with tar & feathering trump leaders like SHS
Sun Jun 24, 2018, 11:32 PM
Jun 2018

It doesn't hurt a person

Ferrets are Cool

(21,117 posts)
54. We must take the highroad BULLSHIT. FUCK that crap. The time for being nice is
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 01:01 AM
Jun 2018

over and done with. YOU are a fucking idiot if you think he is going to get MORE competent. Sheesh, how blind can you be.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
58. Respect the guy, but nope.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 04:17 AM
Jun 2018

These times are not normal
And we must not allow them to be seen as normal.

DeminPennswoods

(15,299 posts)
64. I'm ok with shunning
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 07:13 AM
Jun 2018

It's quite an effective strategy for the Amish.

The fact that the reservation was made in her husband's name is quite telling.

OTOH, there might be something to be said for serving her and her family, which I'm sure would have run up a nice bill, taking the money then publically announcing you are donating it to a cause she and the Trump admin oppose.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
72. Forcing staff to serve her probably wouldn't have turned out well.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 12:52 PM
Jun 2018

Cummings may have in mind an idyllic setting in which the employees put on such a great show that Sanders' heart melts and the world is made a little better. The manager there on the front lines, however, had to make a quick decision that didn't crush emplyee morale or invite open conflict when her staff was near mutiny.

A manager cannot personally cook for and serve a table when busy running a restaurant.

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