that mentioned he was fishing in Up State NY.

Warned and warned. People were into their own lives and thought democracy can run on autopilot.

Now those apathy voters might have to learn how their government touches their life daily. Sucks to be them cause reading. Republicans who work in factories, or on farms and possible need those food stamps are gonna have to think bigger then vitamin D for their skin. Sucks to be them, cause it was so much simpler to hate with your eyes.

Obama is fine, and rich and every democracy in the world would open their borders for him and his family, and be proud. Electing Trump didn't hurt Obama,he's fine. Historically, he's looking better daily. While I wish, personally for him to help ME guide my family through this time in my history, I understand he did his job, his time with honor. I just hope my regular, unrich family doesn't become a victim to this stupidity.

It's tradition that former President's don't critique the sitting President.

It's been mentioned though that President Obama will be an active voice in the 2018 elections.

Trump. Obama should feel free to speak out.

I want our democracy back.

This article - perfectly sums up how I feel about it [link:https://www.theroot.com/obama-doesn-t-owe-this-country-shit-1826309455|
There is this thing white people do where they invoke Obama’s name and say he is the one who needsto come forward and speak out against Donald Trump. He is the one who needs to condemn the things Trump is doing. He is the one who needs to save us from a demise of our own making. Why?

The Obamas suffered enough damn abuse - They deserve some respite. We don't know what kind of work they are doing behind the scenes either. And again he is not your magical negro and I find it quite offensive that people think he needs to be.

This one posted almost gives a CT feel
" And, tactically, what is behind the relative silence of one of the most popular figures alive just as American politics appears to so many to be on the brink of breaking?”

Obama serves his two terms. If he chooses never again speak publicly it is his choice. If he does, great. But it is not his responsibility to do anything.

And it's fucking gross.

When in doubt blame the black guy.

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And I say that with nothing but good feelings in my heart for this terrific man.

I completely understand and I’m grateful for his desire to enjoy life

asking, "where's dad!, somehow my life's in a shithole just because I didn't hear the sound warnings he was giving me all along, while I was playing computer games with some social media 'friends' from around the world, and its not My Fault I thought they were smarter than him, & now when I need him to comfort me, HE GOES FISHING!
Where's MOM!!

President Obama did everything from Warning us about Trump to telling us which box to check on the ballot form.

FOff NY Maga

past presidents are observing from a distance and will step in at the right time, as a unit, using what's left of their collective mandates to defend and guide the country out of the inevitable crisis that will come when Mueller drops the hammer.

The historian suggested that they can only step into that role if they've been somewhat silent and distant from the situation.

He's usually pretty spot on with things and how it ties to the past. One of the reasons I skim morning joe.

Thomas Friedman: Obama, Bush will have to stand up for Constitution

Video: https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/thomas-friedman-obama-bush-will-have-to-stand-up-for-constitution-1201240643668

That he would not just vanish. Apparently, that was incorrect.

2. He isn't goddamned Spider-Man who always appears in a nick of time

3. Believe it or not, he is not required to strictly follow Debenedetti's schedule on when he believes he should or should not do or say something

4. From an ethical standpoint, Obama doesn't owe the left shit after they way he's been treated - But luckily, Obama is a much bigger person than I would have been under this circumstance and he's stumping for Dems next week

5. Some Dem activist who tells the New Yorker that Obama needs to BE MOTHERFUCKING ARRESTED IN CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE(!) just to get the leftbros to unchain themselves from their Playstations is clearly too fucking stupid to breathe and his comments should not be given any legitimacy...

6. Until I see all these folks bitching and moaning for Obama to once again show up and save their miserable ungrateful asses taking some initiative and doing something on their own for a change, stories like this are just noise...

That tradition says that former Presidents do not publicly criticize the sitting President.

However, President Obama is working behind the scenes. You can expect to hear from him in the midterm election campaigns, though strong endorsements of candidates. That's what former Presidents do.

and I wouldn't be surprised if he just said; "fuck you all".

AN honorable, intelligent, decent, caring, compassionate man, who saved this country from the brink of economic collapse and delivered the most progressive agenda I had seen in my lifetime, was rewarded by the election of a racist, orange assclown and a majority assclown House and Senate.

Some fucking ignorant shits even thought; "hell, why vote for the candidate Obama wants to replace him, when I can vote for some Green Party Russian Troll".

It took two fucking years for folks to "turn their back on Obama". Now, some want him to ride in on a white horse and save the little children from kidnapping...or worse?

I wouldn't blame President Obama if he just said; "go fuck yourselves"

It would surprise those of us who have gotten to know him.

the big Buck$$$ in June and September.. what we need.

Eric Holder said he's going to be out on the campaign trail for Dems, too.

Good to know, thanks!

He mentioned that some of his reticence is traditional, some is that he is busy on long-range progressive plans and projects, some is that he wants new Democratic leadership to speak up, and some is that Obama does not want to be a lightening rod used to organize the trumpanistas.

It made sense to me, and besides, I never hear anyone politically active in my area, ask "Where is Obama?".

was still full of shit, though...

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That's what it would become, if an ex-President broke tradition and behaved the way some might like.

But suppose he DID speak out. Whose opinion would he change? No ones. The Dems already agree with him and the R's hate him. There's virtually no one in between anymore.

He would be the subject of 45's morning tweetstorm no matter what he said. 1.2.3. "Fox & Friends" "Beck" "InfoWars"...the list goes on and on and it would be a week-long news cycle.

the root.com: "President Obama doesn't owe us shit". He warned us what would happen, which is why he & Michelle campaigned their hearts out for Hillary. Whenever I hear some talking head who wants Obama to publicly intervene in the issues of the day, I change the channel, because I figure they're just trolling.

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He worked his ass off in 2016 to defeat Trump. He invested more energy and time into beating Trump than any sitting president has in an election they weren't directly running. It's not even close. Bush was absent in 2008. Clinton was using sparingly in 2000. Reagan was trotted out only marginally during the '88 campaign.

No president fought as hard as Obama did for an election of someone else and he lost. He said, "vote to preserve my legacy" and people in states like Ohio, Iowa, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, states he won in his elections, turned around and voted for Trump.

Frankly, if I was him, I'd step aside too. Everything he said would happen - has. If they didn't listen to Obama in 2016, what makes you think they'll listen to him in 2018?

What is keeping us from speaking more frequently about the need to protect democratic norms and the rule of law, to be decent people?

media will follow the trail of lies Don the Con spouts. Work behind the scenes, Obama. Do not be lured into the spider's web.

As I was helping my daughter move out of her dorm for the summer, I noticed activity going on at one of the old OFA offices, so I wonder if something is in the works.