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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJoy Behar has a good point. You can't shame the shameless
Although I can honestly see both sides of this public shaming situation, doing it doesn't really make the object of the shaming stop and reassess. It allows them to play the victim card.
I would walk out of a restaurant if I saw one of the generals in the army of the deplorables enter the building. And I might just put a 'bug' in their ear as I passed their table. After all, they are dining courtesy of my tax dollars.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Direct actions like this inspire our side to see that when you stand up to bullies, bullies back down. Bullies are weaklings deep in their filthy souls.
HAB911
(8,957 posts)same holds, for me at least, for being seated near anyone carrying a weapon
Siwsan
(26,333 posts)Even if my cart is full of frozen foods, I will abandon it, let someone on staff know where it is, find the manager and let them know why I am leaving the store.
targetpractice
(4,919 posts)But, I will follow your lead in the future.
Phoenix61
(17,027 posts)But it will stop some from imitating bad behavior. It also fights against the normalization of this shit show of an administration.
Siwsan
(26,333 posts)Doesn't have to be loud. Doesn't have to be obvious. Just has to be disruptive to their comfort zone.
Trek4Truth
(515 posts)Siwsan
(26,333 posts)I stepped off of that 'high road' the day after the orchestrated election. I just wonder if there might not be a more persistent, personal and face to face way to hammer home that what they are doing is wrong.
But, like I said - I'm in a quandary.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(116,003 posts)that her payment for the meal would be donated to the ACLU or some other such organization. And I'd also mentioned that, as in many restaurants, a lot of Latino people work in the kitchen, so... just sayin'...
On the other hand, I don't have a problem with public shaming in cases as egregious as this, even if the shamees are incapable of feeling shame. That's not to say I'd kick everybody out of my restaurant that I don't agree with, but if I have a sincerely held belief that it's not OK to put children in cages I'd feel free to exercise that belief and not serve them.
Siwsan
(26,333 posts)It is going to be interesting to see if 'Grub Hub' sees a pick up in business from people using suspiciously fake sounding names.
targetpractice
(4,919 posts)"You are welcome to eat here and spend your money, but my staff want you to know that latino and gay folks are preparing and serving your food. I will donate your check to (whatever cause) on their behalf. Enjoy your meal."
Then give great food and service. Then post a photo of their receipt (including the tip) on social media with commentary.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)This way, they are treated so very well that they can't claim discrimination or any such thing, yet the put-down is unmistakable. Posting the receipt (with tip or lack of it) and politely worded commentary on social media afterwards is key. (Let commenters post the "impolite" stuff. ;p )
I'd read the comments afterwards from those so civilly served with great interest. Useful words from my youth: "Be kind to your enemies. It confuses the hell out of them."
empedocles
(15,751 posts)that 'hate' is a very powerful force. Many, like the Nixon strategist who developed Nixon's Southern Strategy [sorry haven't recalled his name yet], would say 'politics is about who hates who.'
Shame may be a less powerful force for some.
FarPoint
(12,486 posts)Outrage only validates their abuse and they like it...We make no progress ..
Only hope is to vote them out.
Iggo
(47,597 posts)And the solution is the same in either case.
tulipsandroses
(5,132 posts)Lets them know the fight is on in all manners -
They've become far too comfortable with doing whatever they want while the people become complacent/defeated. I don't care if they don't change their minds. This administration will not. But they need to know that the pressure will not let up.
Trek4Truth
(515 posts)to these scumbags who conceived, promoted and lied about it.