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G_j

(40,372 posts)
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 02:50 PM Jun 2018

Russians Seek Trump Properties to Give Birth to U.S. Kids

https://amp.thedailybeast.com/russians-flock-to-trump-properties-to-give-birth-to-us-citizens?source=twitter&via=desktop&__twitter_impression=true


Anatoliy Kuzmin held out his daughter’s blue U.S. passport over a red Russian one and snapped a photo from a Florida beach.

“Woohoo! Got dual citizenship for my daughter!” he wrote on Instagram.

American citizenship for the newborn girl was the goal of Kuzmin and his Instagram-celebrity wife, who sought the help of birth-tourism services in Florida for the arrival of their first child. They are among the estimated hundreds of Russian parents who flock to the U.S. annually for warm weather, excellent medical care, and, more importantly, birthright American citizenship.

And many, like Kuzmin and his wife, stay at President Donald Trump’s properties in Florida.

While Trump rails against U.S.-born children of undocumented immigrants, his Florida properties have become a playground for birth tourists from Russia’s upper crust. The Daily Beast has discovered several companies are advertising rentals in Trump properties to expectant Russian parents. While the Trump Organization does not directly profit from subleases of privately owned condos, it does benefit from Russian patronage of the nearby Trump International Beach Resort. (The Trump Organization did not return requests comment.)



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Russians Seek Trump Properties to Give Birth to U.S. Kids (Original Post) G_j Jun 2018 OP
Just another scam uncovered duforsure Jun 2018 #1
This needs to be on the National news. BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #2
Saw it on Sixty Minutes (I think) months ago. TNNurse Jun 2018 #8
Same here - but M$M didn't advertise the way they should have in attempt to normalize the conman iluvtennis Jun 2018 #11
That might have been SCVDem Jun 2018 #15
There were three Russian families that did that here in Hollywood a couple of years ago. chowder66 Jun 2018 #16
These are white folks gaming the system so nobody will care... Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #20
When we retake the government, these kids need to have their citizenship stripped ProudLib72 Jun 2018 #3
Changing this would require amending the Constitution. Jim Lane Jun 2018 #4
My Trump neighbor said his wife helped Russians move to US who pretende to be Jewish to emigrate. TheBlackAdder Jun 2018 #5
DoD security clearance should be stripped.. HipChick Jun 2018 #6
He's American. He traveled with his wife to work on getting Russians to immigrate to the US. TheBlackAdder Jun 2018 #9
The fix is in... HipChick Jun 2018 #7
So... Russian anchor babies. tinrobot Jun 2018 #10
Trump's "Merit Based" (i.e. self enriching) Immigration policy in a nutshell stuffmatters Jun 2018 #12
This is the very thing they accuse us of. Fucking hypocritical assholes. Initech Jun 2018 #13
We have to keep Hispanics out of USA, so we will have room for NCjack Jun 2018 #14
If they're tied to Putin, it's even worse for us FakeNoose Jun 2018 #17
Putin is now the head of the Russian mob. He has looted Russia's wealth, and Trump NCjack Jun 2018 #18
Yep - he's also their head spy FakeNoose Jun 2018 #21
They're bdamomma Jun 2018 #19

chowder66

(9,108 posts)
16. There were three Russian families that did that here in Hollywood a couple of years ago.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 05:05 PM
Jun 2018

It was here in my apartment building when they started the airbnb crap. They arrived very pregnant stayed a month, delivered and left.
They also seemed to have a handler who was staying here and boy was she a nightmare. She would eavesdrop and stare down everyone.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
20. These are white folks gaming the system so nobody will care...
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 07:41 PM
Jun 2018

And they're secretly relieved that somebody somewhere is trying to ever-so-slightly offset the numbers of dark-skinned immigrant children...

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
3. When we retake the government, these kids need to have their citizenship stripped
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 03:09 PM
Jun 2018

It's a loophole. It's cheating the system. I don't care who says it was legal. This must be part of the Dem platform: retract ill gotten citizenship. To think the grifter in chief is doing this while kidnapping babies is disgusting beyond belief.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
4. Changing this would require amending the Constitution.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 03:37 PM
Jun 2018

"Birth tourism" is not a Trump-era phenomenon. It's been going on a long time, and Russians are far from the only ones who do it.

The Fourteenth Amendment confers U.S. citizenship on anyone born here, with the statistically negligible exception of children born to foreign ambassadors who enjoy diplomatic immunity. Even if the parents entered illegally -- in fact, even if the mother gives birth while in custody awaiting deportation -- the kid is a citizen.

Offhand, I can't think of any rewording of the Fourteenth Amendment that wouldn't be a disaster on many levels.

The Constitution would probably allow the government to require a pregnancy test of any woman seeking to enter the country, and to bar all those who tested positive. That would be absurd, and would still allow birth tourism, merely restricting it to those wealthy enough to enter while not pregnant and then stay here the full nine months.

TheBlackAdder

(28,261 posts)
5. My Trump neighbor said his wife helped Russians move to US who pretende to be Jewish to emigrate.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 03:46 PM
Jun 2018

.

He said that they would put down that they were of Jewish heritage, when they knew nothing about Judaism.

This allowed them to leave Russia and move to this country under religious asylum type measures.

He said that most who moved here pretended to be Jewish just to be able to leave Russia, before it was stopped. While he said they knew these folks were not Jewish, they had ways to effectively beat the Russian system to qualify as Jewish.


He has a DoD security clearance, says Trump is not owned by Russia or Putin, and says that is Russia was so bad, the US would not have allowed him to go to St. Petersburg to work on relocation Russians to this country.

I'm so pissed at this guy right now. I'm trying to remain civil, but he's revealing himself more and more.

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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
6. DoD security clearance should be stripped..
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 03:48 PM
Jun 2018

since he obtained US citizenship under false circumstances...

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
12. Trump's "Merit Based" (i.e. self enriching) Immigration policy in a nutshell
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 04:33 PM
Jun 2018

Not to mention the Kush/Trump gambit that essentially sells American long term visa when you "invest in" (i.e. buy) one of their condos
over $500,000. Another immigration law loophole they've made billions off of.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
14. We have to keep Hispanics out of USA, so we will have room for
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 04:37 PM
Jun 2018

Donald's Russian criminal buddies. That's a bad deal for us. These Russians are tied to the mob and they will terrorize America.

FakeNoose

(32,917 posts)
17. If they're tied to Putin, it's even worse for us
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 05:07 PM
Jun 2018

I mean that sincerely, they have been sending "deep cover" Russian spies to the US since even before the fall of the USSR. Some of these supposedly immigrant families are really spies, just like the TV shows. They're sleepers and they report back to Putin every so often. We're stupid to even accept immigrants from Russia, they should all be banned.

BTW this started long before Trump was involved, but they've found him to be accommodating and not very curious about their activities or livelihoods. He's the perfect cover for their spying activities.



NCjack

(10,279 posts)
18. Putin is now the head of the Russian mob. He has looted Russia's wealth, and Trump
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 07:19 PM
Jun 2018

is helping transfer the money to USA. For a share, McConnell and Ryan have developed blindness to criminal activities.

bdamomma

(63,974 posts)
19. They're
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 07:25 PM
Jun 2018

white period.
fucking hypocrites, well whatever Putin is holding over tRump's head must be damaging bring in Russian mothers so their kids can be Americans, or should I say white Americans!!!

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