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spanone

(135,950 posts)
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 03:33 PM Jun 2018

CNN Host Kate Bolduan Defends Stephen Miller From Guest Calling Him a 'White Nationalist'

I don't know if you want to call Stephen Miller a white nationalist,’ the CNN host said in the name of ‘civility.’

In an apparent attempt to demonstrate objectivity and civility, CNN host Kate Bolduan on Monday defended perhaps the most demonized member of the Trump administration.

Bolduan was speaking with prominent immigration attorney David Leopold, when he said, “I have no doubt that this administration, Donald Trump, who advised by a white nationalist, Stephen Miller in the White House.” At that moment, she cut him off.

“I don’t know if you want to go as far as—I mean, let’s not—I just did an entire segment about civility here,” Bolduan told him. “I don’t know if you want to call Stephen Miller a white nationalist.”

Leopold responded, “It’s not an uncivil thing, I would argue that it’s a fact.”


https://www.thedailybeast.com/cnn-host-kate-bolduan-defends-stephen-miller-after-guest-calls-him-white-nationalist?ref=home
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CNN Host Kate Bolduan Defends Stephen Miller From Guest Calling Him a 'White Nationalist' (Original Post) spanone Jun 2018 OP
we will figure out eventually to call a fascist a fascist... it just might be too late. Thomas Hurt Jun 2018 #1
Oh FFS!!! Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2018 #2
Now the media makes its turn. RandySF Jun 2018 #3
It's progressives that are the REAL white nationalists! Nevernose Jun 2018 #5
Yep, the 4th estate is now defending Fascism. sarcasmo Jun 2018 #20
Civility get the red out Jun 2018 #4
Do not let them bind our hands! PubliusEnigma Jun 2018 #6
Let's call him what he is... a neo-nazi. kysrsoze Jun 2018 #7
Guess she's going high. nt jrthin Jun 2018 #8
To hell with her. slater71 Jun 2018 #9
I wouldn't call him a white nationalist; I'd call him a filthy puddle of diarrhea. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #10
"filthy puddle of diarrhea"? SharonClark Jun 2018 #14
Well, "filthy" is redundant. "Neonazi" would seem a reasonable compromise. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #16
Normalization peggysue2 Jun 2018 #11
+1 NY_20th Jun 2018 #15
Where are the girls and babies? lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #17
+1, where are the little girls and the babies ... fuck everything else !!! uponit7771 Jun 2018 #23
Great post - thank you. And you are correct about trying to control the narrative. The dumpster's c-rational Jun 2018 #24
Miller is the poster child for the incel movement. Efilroft Sul Jun 2018 #12
Makes me wonder if she is a white nationalist. LiberalFighter Jun 2018 #13
In May 2010, Bolduan married Michael Gershenson, who works for The Carlyle Group lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #21
"I don't know if you want to..." Iggo Jun 2018 #18
It's not like it's a big secret. Kate should learn about her guests before they appear. Vinca Jun 2018 #19
Well you can't call him a fucking racist asshole on T V. pwb Jun 2018 #22

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
5. It's progressives that are the REAL white nationalists!
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 03:44 PM
Jun 2018

Which is completely insane (although I’ve heard that allegation made here on DU multiple times).

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
10. I wouldn't call him a white nationalist; I'd call him a filthy puddle of diarrhea.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 03:52 PM
Jun 2018

So I guess I agree with Kate; the guest was way too polite.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
14. "filthy puddle of diarrhea"?
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 05:03 PM
Jun 2018

That really makes her point, doesn't it.
Calling him a white nationalist seems more accurate.

peggysue2

(10,853 posts)
11. Normalization
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 04:16 PM
Jun 2018

There's a desperate attempt by some in the media to ameliorate the grossness, the lack of competency and sheer cruelty of the Trumpster and his odious acolytes.

But that's a fool's errand in light of the current scandal turned to tragedy du jour. Precisely:

Where are the Babies? Where are the Girls?

Sorry but this is not normal.

When you have the Trumpster threatening to discard due process--throw 'em out, forget due process--or falsely claim that immigrants are invading and/or infesting our borders, that is the mindset and language of a blatant racist, the love song of White Nationalists.

And Stephan Miller is the architect of this policy, convincing the Trumpster and his cohorts it will be the winning policy in November.

This is not about using the right fork at the dinner table. It's about a mindset that is inherently immoral, inhumane--using children as bargaining chips and separating families on the false claim and fear of an invading army.

Sometimes you have to call an action out for what it is and label people for what they are.

More importantly, what we need to do as Dems is change the narrative argument, the direction it's meandering into and that the Trumpster is now repeating. I heard it again today. It's either his way--deport 'em, forget due process--or open borders. Which he claims is what the Dems truly want.

That is absolutely not the choice in front of us.

We need to clarify the argument and the narrative going forward. But the media needs to stop twisting itself into pretzel shapes.

Because this is not normal. And politeness will never set it right.



c-rational

(2,602 posts)
24. Great post - thank you. And you are correct about trying to control the narrative. The dumpster's
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:24 PM
Jun 2018

and his cohorts are immoral. The Rethugs do not deserve civility, and the MSM is our problem too.

Efilroft Sul

(3,586 posts)
12. Miller is the poster child for the incel movement.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 04:18 PM
Jun 2018

It doesn't take too much to imagine him posting on 4chan about how women owe him sex.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
21. In May 2010, Bolduan married Michael Gershenson, who works for The Carlyle Group
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 05:15 PM
Jun 2018

Carlyle Groups Settles in "Pay to Play" Scandal Probe
https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=7586756&page=1

Carlyle Accused of Fraud by Ex-Employee
https://www.ai-cio.com/news/carlyle-accused-of-fraud-by-ex-employee/

They own scandal-plagued Booz-Allen

and of course their PNAC/Bush/Iraq War history is well known.

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