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http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2018/06/quickie-in-2010-republicans-won-because.html6/26/2018
Quickie: In 2010, Republicans Won Because of Incivility and Anger
A noble band of patriots called "the Tea Party" decided to take their country back or make it great again or something because the black Muslim and the evil Democrats had dared to give them health insurance. So they took their righteous anger to town hall meetings held by the Democrats and any Republicans who dared to want to work with the black Muslim, and they ranted and raged until they silenced anyone who wanted to talk about issues until many members of Congress decided to just avoid town halls with their constituents.
And, of course, the media condemned the incivility, and Republicans lost because they couldn't control their more radical voters.
Oh, no, wait. The media, for the most part, wanted to understand the rage of the tri-corner hat-wearing yokels, and the 2010 blood red tide turned the Congress Republican. Yeah, that happened.
Rage works. We're angry because they want to take away health care, imprison children, and gut the government. Learn to ride the wave, Democrats, or you're gonna just ebb and break before you ever reach shore.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)phtphthahahaha. That's so true.
Suddenly rage was the topic of the day. I remember it well.
dameatball
(7,411 posts)country. No civility whatsoever. Anyone protesting at a Trump event is still treated the same way. However, these were simple town hall meetings in which public discourse was supposedly welcomed. Hah!! Fat chance.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)I forgot the town halls...Screaming.
dameatball
(7,411 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)The_Counsel
(1,661 posts)n/t
Cha
(298,130 posts)showing their pitiful rallies.. they were all for the angry tea-baggers then.
But, now that it's the Dems turn to be Furious.. "we should let SFS eat in peace.. " BULLSHIT.
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mythology
(9,527 posts)Is unbiased in assessing whether civility is good or not.
But also Obama won despite enormous uncivil behavior. Uncivil behavior cost Todd Akin and others.
Sometimes we lose, sometimes we win, but making ourselves what we hate, that doesn't mean we'd win.
So, just sit down and shut up, mind our manners, and maybe, just maybe they will be "nice" and let us continue to live after the end of our democracy. Sounds awesome.
ProfessorGAC
(65,466 posts)Merrick Garland.
Sometimes we lose? You're kidding, right?
ProfessorPlum
(11,284 posts)He is my spirit animal
hatrack
(59,607 posts)ck4829
(35,097 posts)coming from the Trump administration and radical right fascists.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,528 posts)dembotoz
(16,866 posts)edhopper
(33,667 posts)Last edited Tue Jun 26, 2018, 01:15 PM - Edit history (1)
that Obama and the Dems not trying to embrace the anger that so many Americans had at Wall Street and the Banks because of the meltdown, and allowing the Tea Party to co-opt that anger was the gravest mistake in the 2010 election.
Twice I have been alerted and deleted for saying this. ("don't bash Dems" )
If we can't talk about our mistakes, how can me make the right choices next time.
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)Bernie was the one taking that message around the country. HRC was playing the competency, insider's game. Trump was a cross between a dancing bear and an insult comic.
Once the conventions were over, HRC amped up her message and Trump picked up the populist theme that the Dems ignored.
She still won the PV, but the degraders' coalition shaved enough points to get the EV win.
Come on folks, this ain't beanbag.
Bernie didn't cost us the election, ignoring what he had to say did.
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)... and I wrote on/videotaped them. They were passionate, but not crazy-mean-stupid. Like the Occupy movement, we Democrats and progressives protest quite differently than the Tea Party crowd. There is so much more heart and intelligence in the bombast.
It IS time to rise up, and not fear great aunt so-and-so's wagging finger. My great aunt would applaud the bolder, louder, fiestier Democrats of today's resistance. In the 50s/60s she fought loud and hard against animal abuse and did it with volume but she CARED. And that's the difference.
ProfessorPlum
(11,284 posts)to any of the precious GOP vampires that currently rule us? I can't think of any
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)If we start to get our backs to the wall as we are today the mean might start to emerge. It's a fight-or-flight animal response. But even now we have enough courage of our convictions and the best films/literature to back them up that we have locked in a more intelligent response apparatus.
Stay the course... but do increase volume (not the mean and stupid).
JoeOtterbein
(7,703 posts)fight!
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,464 posts)Fighting is good but we need to fight smart and not become like them at the same time.
JoeOtterbein
(7,703 posts)being "uncivil". So let's be "uncivil" and confront them rhetorically whenever we get a chance. And then pile on. Don't let go of our issues. Keep fighting. It's really simple. I do it all the time. Many hate me for it and others love me for it. That is the way it works in politics. Like it or not, it is the only way to win.
Augiedog
(2,551 posts)is exactly what the right wingers are, assholes. Treating assholes civilly just encourages continuation of the asshole behavior. Their assholishness is a self inflicted infestation that needs to be dealt with confrontationally.
When encountering one of these assholes keep your eyes on your opponent and one hand on your wallet and the other on your significant other. Neither are safe in the assholes zone of shittiness. Never doubt an assholes ability to grin while pooping all over everything, seemingly oblivious to all social norms.
So having rightly established that The ratpublicans are assholes, they adore the term Deplorable and proudly display it. It is time they reckon with the fact that they they have sown a shitty wind. A wind which they now complain is reaping a sour whirlwind. Well life is tough assholes and you brought this on yourselves.
Note to Chuck the appeaser Schumer, bite me.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)The lack of pushback against that narrative has been an absolute killer.
MyOwnPeace
(16,955 posts)And we MUST NOT allow that narrative to continue as we go into the 2018 battle!
I AM seeing more "true reporting" in the MSM, but that can only be a start - we've got to press our case, reveal the TRUTH, and GET OUT THE VOTE!!!!
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,464 posts)or anything since then? Or are they winning since then (for other reasons) IN SPITE OF it? Not sure it actually justifies us acting uncivil in response. We don't have to not be mad or angry or not protest injustices, etc., but resorting to Tea Party-like behavior isn't what I want to see happen to our side either.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)were and still are complicit in giving IT free air time. They are lazy, with some exceptions like Ms. Maddow, Mr. Hayes, Mr. O'Donnell, and even Nichole Wallace. The network news' bosses favor ratings over public service. imo
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)We need to start harnessing it and using it.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)Rage can be a call to restore sanity and the "Rule of Law". Yes, use it or lose it. imo