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Nelson Leads In Florida (Original Post) applegrove Jun 2018 OP
good news - this is going to be a nasty race DrDan Jun 2018 #1
I'm surprised zipplewrath Jun 2018 #2
I haven't seen any viciousness babylonsister Jun 2018 #7
Exactly Awsi Dooger Jun 2018 #9
Many are PAC ads. I wonder how many rubles were used to pay for them? Roland99 Jun 2018 #13
He is 75 and appears way more active and healthy than Trump. Freethinker65 Jun 2018 #12
I love the one saying he's earned over $4million in taxpayer dollars Roland99 Jun 2018 #14
Saying your opponent is too old is not a good strategy in Florida. jg10003 Jun 2018 #15
I wouldn't think so. Cha Jun 2018 #16
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2018 #18
Excellent. lpbk2713 Jun 2018 #3
Also polled OH and AZ DeminPennswoods Jun 2018 #4
It's going to be a nailbiter Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2018 #5
Obviously I will vote for Nelson, but he is so Baitball Blogger Jun 2018 #6
There's so much wrong with Scott, where do I start? babylonsister Jun 2018 #8
If anyone has a FB page please post this as a public post. It is about Scott's Medicare Fraud Maraya1969 Jun 2018 #10
I think this was fairly well documented babylonsister Jun 2018 #17
Nelson's victory a must. Florida Dems get out to the polls. oasis Jun 2018 #11
 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
9. Exactly
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 06:27 PM
Jun 2018

Not vicious. It is a methodic message that Nelson is too old and has been around too long.

Scott is not mentioned at all. Of course, in this case they can't exactly tout Scott as a non-politician because the last thing they want is spotlight on what Scott did before entering politics.

Freethinker65

(10,118 posts)
12. He is 75 and appears way more active and healthy than Trump.
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 07:02 PM
Jun 2018

Attacking based on increased age in Florida, home of retirees, is pretty stupid politically.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
14. I love the one saying he's earned over $4million in taxpayer dollars
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 07:29 PM
Jun 2018

That amounts to less than $100k/yr. Oh. Gee. Wow.

DeminPennswoods

(15,307 posts)
4. Also polled OH and AZ
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 05:38 PM
Jun 2018

I scribbled this down from Kornacki on MTPD just now:

In Ohio

Sherrod Brown 51
Renazzi 38

Ohio Gov
DeWine 46
Cordray 42

In AZ
GOP Primary
McSally 30
Ward 28
Arpaio 21

Matched up vs the Dem Sinema
Sinema 49
McSally 38

Sinema 48
Ward 38

Baitball Blogger

(46,786 posts)
6. Obviously I will vote for Nelson, but he is so
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 06:09 PM
Jun 2018

Conservative that he has disappeared from my landscape. On the other hand, rick Scott is just the same old take-care-of their own politician, lots of fiefdoms have been established under his watch.

Maraya1969

(22,527 posts)
10. If anyone has a FB page please post this as a public post. It is about Scott's Medicare Fraud
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 06:37 PM
Jun 2018

I can't believe he won governor twice. And I bet there are plenty of Floridians who never heard of this. They need to hear of this. I think Nelson should run ads on it.


http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2014/mar/03/florida-democratic-party/rick-scott-rick-scott-oversaw-largest-medicare-fra/

During Scott’s 2010 race for governor, PolitiFact fact-checked multiple claims related to his tenure at Columbia/HCA. Now, we’ll recap some of our earlier discussion of the investigation and fine.

Scott started what was first Columbia in 1987, purchasing two El Paso, Texas, hospitals. Over the next decade he would add hundreds of hospitals, surgery centers and home health locations. In 1994, Scott’s Columbia purchased Tennessee-headquartered HCA and its 100 hospitals, and merged the companies.

In 1997, federal agents went public with an investigation into the company, first seizing records from four El Paso-area hospitals and then expanding across the country. The investigation focused on whether Columbia/HCA had committed Medicare and Medicaid fraud.

Scott resigned as CEO in July 1997, less than four months after the inquiry became public. Company executives said had Scott remained CEO, the entire chain could have been in jeopardy.

During his 2010 race, the Miami Herald reported that Scott had said he would have immediately stopped his company from committing fraud -- if only "somebody told me something was wrong." But there were such warnings in the company’s annual public reports to stockholders -- which Scott had to sign as president and CEO.

Scott wanted to fight the accusations, but the corporate board of the publicly traded company wanted to settle.

In December 2000, the U.S. Justice Department announced that Columbia/HCA agreed to pay $840 million in criminal fines, civil damages and penalties.

Among the revelations from the 2000 settlement:

• Columbia billed Medicare, Medicaid, and other federal programs for tests that were not necessary or had not been ordered by physicians;

• The company attached false diagnosis codes to patient records to increase reimbursement to the hospitals;

• The company illegally claimed non-reimbursable marketing and advertising costs as community education;

• Columbia billed the government for home health care visits for patients who did not qualify to receive them.

The government settled a second series of similar claims with Columbia/HCA in 2002 for an additional $881 million. The total for the two fines was $1.7 billion.

On Scott’s 2010 campaign website, he admitted to the $1.7 billion fine, though the link is no longer on the site.

babylonsister

(171,113 posts)
17. I think this was fairly well documented
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:17 AM
Jun 2018

in Florida via newspapers at the time, per my dad who has lived in FL for awhile. People. Didn't. Care. As long as there was an (R) after his name, he was a shoo-in. Yes, working against their own interests, but that seems to be the mentality down here. I can only hope that's changed.

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