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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere Is No Immigration Crisis
Are Democrats walking into a trap on immigration? Three of Americas most astute and iconoclastic political commentatorsDavid Frum, Andrew Sullivan, and Fareed Zakariaall immigrants themselves, fear the answer is yes.
In recent days, each has made a version of the same argument. Yes, they acknowledge, President Trumps policy of separating families at Americas southwestern border was monstrous. Democrats were right to protest it. But now, by opposing even the detention of families, Democrats are overreaching. By rejecting the harsh but necessary steps required to end Americas illegal immigration crisis, theyre becomingor at least looking likeadvocates of open borders. And when that happens, Trump win/
I think this argument is wrong. Its wrong because it conflates good politics with good policy. It may be true that Democrats would benefit politically by taking a harder line on illegal immigration, as Bill Clinton benefitted in the 1990s by taking a harder line on welfare and crime. Im not sure. The contention is plausible but difficult to prove. Regardless, family detention is a terrible response to a largely fictitious crisis. It would be lovely if shrewd politics and sound policy always went hand in hand. But its important for commentators to acknowledge that, often, they dont.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/democrats-immigration-not-a-crisis/563855/
In recent days, each has made a version of the same argument. Yes, they acknowledge, President Trumps policy of separating families at Americas southwestern border was monstrous. Democrats were right to protest it. But now, by opposing even the detention of families, Democrats are overreaching. By rejecting the harsh but necessary steps required to end Americas illegal immigration crisis, theyre becomingor at least looking likeadvocates of open borders. And when that happens, Trump win/
I think this argument is wrong. Its wrong because it conflates good politics with good policy. It may be true that Democrats would benefit politically by taking a harder line on illegal immigration, as Bill Clinton benefitted in the 1990s by taking a harder line on welfare and crime. Im not sure. The contention is plausible but difficult to prove. Regardless, family detention is a terrible response to a largely fictitious crisis. It would be lovely if shrewd politics and sound policy always went hand in hand. But its important for commentators to acknowledge that, often, they dont.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/democrats-immigration-not-a-crisis/563855/
IMO it's a largely ginned up crisis.
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There Is No Immigration Crisis (Original Post)
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2018
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world wide wally
(21,762 posts)1. My take on this is that I just like Mexican people.
I traveled to Mexico when I was young and a little more wild. I found the people to be generous, giving, hard working, fun, and humble. I could go on and on but the point is...I like,them much more,than Republicans. They are much nicer people
bdamomma
(63,978 posts)3. I think they (Mexico) have
a large community of ex pats living out there too.
logosoco
(3,208 posts)2. But there is an environmental crisis.
It seems like if it was so easy to get the "red hats" to get riled up about immigration we should be able to do this about the environment. It will affect them much more than immigrants will.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)4. there are no millions going to swarm us...
the is no such thing as a secure border, MS13 and illegal immigrants are not the sole cause of crime in the US though the Pig proclaims it so. the wall the Muslim bans....etc.
The whole of the immigration debacle is a fascist propaganda grift.
Gothmog
(146,031 posts)5. This is a made up crisis being use to inflame trump's base of idiots